The Erotic Highway

No way am I doing video chat!
GaGambler 1161 reads
posted
1 / 15

I imagine most of you have received the e-mail that if you "upgrade" to a PREMIUM membership you'll have access to the new video chat feature. Personally I have very mixed opinions about this new feature, what say the rest of you?

 
For those of you who aren't members or for some reason didn't get the notification, I copied the gist of the email for you.

 
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SA Live brings Video Chat to Seeking Arrangement

We’re excited to announce that starting today, Video Chat, in the form of SA Live, is rolling out on SeekingArrangement! Our users have been clamoring for this feature for several years, and now SA Live is finally ready for the masses!

Earlier this morning, we began rolling out this Video Chat feature to Premium Generous members. Once your account is upgraded to Premium, you’ll notice on your conversation view a new Video icon if this conversation is eligible.
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It's so easy to use! A conversation is eligible, once you’re Premium, if the person you’re trying to connect with has an active, approved profile, and has sent you a message before.

To begin a chat, simply click the video icon, and if they’re online, we’ll send them a request to join you in your Video Chat session!

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RCShobby 18 Reviews 173 reads
posted
2 / 15

Video? No. I think there are other ways to verify people's identity.

I'm happy using text messages and photos through whatever method people use. Talking on the phone is helpful too.

I'm pretty conservative when it comes to screening. I've probably missed out on a few opportunities, but better to be safe than sorry.  Just my $.02

I just had a woman send me a text: "Can you send me some money, I need to feed."  What are you a vampire? Immediate delete and block!

herbtcat 6 Reviews 186 reads
posted
3 / 15

...by 30 minutes. I also got the email this morning. (I've let my premium status lapse for now.)  
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I, too have mixed feelings. Clearly, it's a attempt to accommodate an active  COVID-19 world. But is this good or bad? It depends on the intentions of the users and how/if the site manages the process and the "content" of any video chats.  
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Pros:  
- Used as a verification tool, a short video chat could be very useful in preventing some/most catfishing and scams. If a live, pretty girl chats you up, you have a much better sense that she is legit or not.  
- Used to get around social distancing and closures of suitable M&G locations, it's also helpful to enable a virtual M&G IF that is your style. However, there are many SD's here who do not use, and do not like, the meet now-fuck later model. So for them, this may be either neutral or slight negative if SB's insist on a video chat before agreeing to BCD.  
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Cons:
- Used as a replacement for physical meetings, especially if sugar is expected, this is a disaster.  And many POT SB's are creating or updating profiles to state they ONLY want an online arrangement (for now?).  That's just bad. Really bad.  
- Used to provide "content" for an online only arrangement, this could be just messy (no pun intended).  It seems that SA has been trying very hard (again, no pun) to cast the site and service as a DATING service and NOT an adult content, or escort site.  If they allow SB's to effectively become adult webcam models, their efforts to stay "clean" will fail.  So, how will they prevent SB's from offering nudity or explicit content during a video chat? Will they monitor each chat like they try to monitor text message content to filter out P4P or escort-ish language or explicit images? That's the big question: Will chats be monitored and what are the acceptable standards for chat content? Finally, if chats are used salaciously, how will the SB collect allowance? Will SA also enable a peer-to-peer payment system (like Cashapp)? That seems very doubtful for reasons I won't go into here (but trust me on this, as digital payments is my expertise), although I'd bet they would LOVE to get their hands on actual sugar payment data  between SD's and SB's.
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So, time will tell, as always. But for me, I'll avoid unless asked, and if a POT insists, I'll only agree to a 2-5 minute chat for verification needs and, as in typed messages, avoid ALL p4p and quid pro quo discussions.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

caveat75 9 Reviews 253 reads
posted
4 / 15

On the plus side, it will be difficult (not impossible) in the near-term for non-female scammers to actually be on video in a video chat, but as the technology to fake images is constantly improved and it becomes easier to fake a video in real-time “to prove they are real”.

Female scammers will use this as a way to request payment up-front through an app before they go to video and will always promise to meet up but never intend to meet and of course will increase their sob stories to get extra payments.

Already too many pots who only want an on-line arrangement and that number will likely increase, they will just avoid saying that in their profiles.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 197 reads
posted
5 / 15

Seems like they can record your video conversation and then use it to blackmail you.  

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 204 reads
posted
6 / 15

We've discussed in previous posts.  This is the absolute worst feature that SA has released.  Zero percent chance that I will video chat with an unknown POT SB or scammer; and then risk them plastering it all over the internet.  No thank you!  Pictures give you plausible deniability (stolen from my FB page or Instagram), but a video of me telling MissHotThang what I desire in an arrangement?  GTFOOH!  

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 181 reads
posted
7 / 15

We should be able to convince the hottie on the other end that video chats are a bad idea for her for the same reasons.  They most likely don't want to risk exposure as sugar babes to their family, friends and co-workers.  So it should be fairly easy to talk them out of insisting on doing it that way.

sweetman 93 Reviews 173 reads
posted
8 / 15

But for all the reasons given by this esteemed crew, it sounds like a really bad idea.  Just maybe it could be ok for a short verification video.  But if you really want to video chat with a SB you're better off using Zoom or some other video conferencing platform.  Keep the conversations off of SA!  I also think the use of video chat on the SA website could lead to LE stings.  So far, LE seems reluctant to try and prosecute sugar daters.  Too much work, too little chance of being able to prove any wrongdoing.  But recording a video of a guy offering money to a woman for sex would make it easy. OK maybe it's entrapment but I don't want to be the first one to test that theory.

applecious 95 Reviews 203 reads
posted
9 / 15

I found two SB that are pretty much perfect in what I want last month, and my membership is about to expire so I didn't renew. One is 29 one is 30...a bit older then what most of us here are going for, but they are both 10s in the looks department. I mean they don't appear to be "old" by any means. They both fuck like no tomorrow!

Anyways, it seems like every time I leave SA and then go back to SA something new disrupts the landscape. Not too excited about this video feature...

johndoe2012b 2 Reviews 195 reads
posted
10 / 15

Except I'm a dork in person and more of a dork on video...

The beauty of this is yes, it will eliminate an excuse on their behalf to do video chat which can unveil catfish and scammers... and nobody had to divulge a personal video portal username or phone number.

So it can work in our favor.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 194 reads
posted
11 / 15

If you use the same caution in video chats that you do in text chats, you wont' have any (well at least fewer) additional risks with getting your messages recorded and used for bad purposes.  The rules of communicating ON THE SITE still apply:  
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1. No p4p or quid pro quo chat. Don't offer pay her for sex, don't reply or agree to getting sex from her for pay.  
2. No salacious behaviors - don't ask for nudity, end the chat if nudity is offered. Don't talk about sexual preferences, role play, etc. If you must go near there, use words like affection and cuddling.  
3. Keep it PG, and keep it focused on DATING (not fucking) and making new friends. If she asks about sugar, be vague about "helping with her life". Then suggest you'd like to connect through (anything not SA) to set up next steps.  
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Just don't do or say anything you wouldn't type in the message box.  
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Yes, you can be recorded, by the POT (who could be UC LE) as well as by SA. But that's not much more risky since the POT (and SA) already have your pics, profile and text messages.  A vid (as opposed to pics and text) of you chatting up a hottie may be good enough to convince your SO that you're cheating, but you've already accepted that risk, haven't you? And cheating on your wife is not illegal, in most states. But if you keep your video chat PG-friendly, IMO it's not much more useful to LE.  I doubt you'll be convicted for flirting with a 20-ish hottie.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

GaGambler 199 reads
posted
12 / 15

One is underage girls and everyone here is smart enough to run for the hills at the first hint a POT even "might" be underage. The second thing is overt prostitution. As long as you don't make an offer of "money for sex" there is NOTHING LE can do to you. I am pretty sure that at least most of us who are experienced whore mongers never cross that line just out of force of habit by dealing with hookers.

 
The main downside I see is pressure from both POT SB's AND Seeking themselves for us to "upgrade" our accounts to be able to use the new feature. I am not interested in video chatting in the first place, but even if I was, I already have access to both Skype and FaceTime, paying extra for something I already get for free seems VERY dumb to me.

sweetman 93 Reviews 187 reads
posted
13 / 15

I have not received any such email and I'm already a paid up premium member. What appears on my screen now is this message:
New Beta Feature Video chat with another Seeking member from your conversation page. We’ll be releasing this to members over the next few weeks, so be on the lookout!  

Have any of you other premium members seen the new chat feature on your message screens?  Maybe they are only offering it in a few selected markets?  It is beta testing after all.  And you know the definitions right?:
Alpha version:  Too buggy to be released
Beta version:  Still too buggy to be released
Release version:  Alternate spelling of beta version

caveat75 9 Reviews 177 reads
posted
14 / 15

I normally use the net to access the site. Used the app today while in a boring video conference and in the app saw the video icon. Just went to the net and no video icon. So if you never or rarely use the app at least for now it is not even an option.

sweetman 93 Reviews 193 reads
posted
15 / 15

OK that explains it!  I use a PC or my iPad to access the site, almost never the app on my phone.  I just fired up the app and I see the little video camera icon.

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