I’ve been a provider/SD lurker for a couple of decades now. Finally started dabbling in it. Not here, but in Thailand last year right as the ‘demic hit. Blew my mind. I’m too weary of the provider side here is the US and I like the intimacy (GFE) aspect of SD/SB. I’ve been reading on here literally for weeks with no end in sight. Herbcat keeps mentioning reading old posts on how to get in and work the SD game. Maybe I’ve read some maybe I’ve missed them all, but most of the SD/SB posts have been very helpful. Way too much info. I’ve never done this, and I always research this sort of thing.
I think there’s so much info on here it might be hard for someone new to get started and feel comfortable navigating this world. I signed up for SA a few weeks ago, paid for a membership a few days ago and started messaging beautiful women. I’m a pretty savvy guy and pretty computer literate so I thought I’d make this post of what it’s like from the beginning and what I’m looking for and what I’ve seen and how I interpret it. BTW for those starting out I take notes when reading these posts and bookmark the important ones. Ok signed up, paid membership, read profiles….here it goes. I get what the noobs say about how to learn to vet a pot. As Herbcat and many others have said spidey sense is your number one tool. But even that is a little vague so I’ll explain. I think I have a very good spidey sense so when I’m reading profiles, I’m not really nit picking, but rather get a feeling for who wrote it, such as is there only one pic and one sentence? That seems lame. Then I see profiles with key words that make me think they’re straight up hookers, pass. Then I get a message from a smoking hot lady, but she’s in LA and I’m in SF, but hell I used to live in LA so why not. I message her something substantial and I get a reply a couple seconds later with a message that is not personal and answers no questions I had in my message or even acknowledges what I said and the greeting at the beginning with perfect spelling and punctuation…it’s a scam…blocked or rather hidden as blocking is permanent and who am I? Always right, no. Next was a very cute Asian lady who lives in china and travels here often. We chat for about 15 minutes then she wants to move it to love hottie, never heard of it. I read about it before signing up searching google for the typical, is it a scam? Is it legit? Seems legit. I download it and wouldn’t have use it if it asks for credit card and personal info, it doesn’t, I sign up. I give her my ID and she sends me a message. I tried sending one back and it says I don’t have any gold coins. Scam. You have to use gold coins to message people. It’s not clear if it’s one coin per message or one coin per conversation. Again I search googles for “if messaging on lovehottie does the recipient get money from the coins?” I get nothing in the search. I go back to the app and see that you send gold coins to the person you’re chatting so clearly they’re making money. The gold coins BTW are $20 USD for 20 coins….HELL NO. I tell her that I’m not into that and can we use whatsapp or line and she says it’s banned in china. I search, it is, I say how about wechat, not banned it china. I get “I’ve used that before and got my CC stolen….blah blah blah”. I tell her I don’t pay for messaging apps when there are so many free ones out there and if she can recommend a good one then let me know otherwise good luck. She messages back with a plea of private rooms and it’s only $20. Perfect English mind you. I don’t write back. Now grain of salt, maybe that really is the only app she knows of that’s not banned in her country or whatever, but you know it’s a scam when you can send them gold coins and the coins just for chatting are pretty pricey. Next was a great looking curvy girl and she got back pretty quickly and gave me the feeling of a genuine person. After about 15-20 messages each she had me text her on her phone number, which I’m currently doing while writing this. Seems legit, get good feelings, hasn’t mentioned anything of the “nature” of this genre. She did ask, politely, what I was looking for. I said, “How do I explain? Hmmm. I'm looking for companionship and everything that goes with that. I'm not looking to dominate one's times, unless it's both mutual. Does that make sense? If you have any suggestions on how to explain more of what you're asking; then I can elaborate.” She responded with “no, I think that explains it” that’s when she gave me her number. She did ask if I had done this before. Generally I don’t lie. I have nothing to hide and nothing to be ashamed of, but for other things in life I would tell white lies so you’re not getting taken advantage of, but in this case I don’t know what I don’t know and we’re dealing with people and emotions and all the other junk. So I didn’t lie and said I was new to all this. I’m pretty savvy, as I said, so I’m hoping that will serve me well so I don’t get taken advantage of. We met the next day for an M&G. We talked and walked around an outdoor shopping center. We went into a few stores and I was buying something and asked if she wanted anything; she said no. Interesting. It then turned into dinner. So a very successful M&G that lasted like 4 plus hours. Then we talked about meeting next week, this was a Wednesday, but she texts me on Thursday that she really wanted to see me. By the way I think we made an actual connection, it felt that way. Don’t worry I’m still savvy of this all. Anyway she comes over we go to lunch, then by the water for a walk, back to my house, she’s tired and wants to take a nap, well you can image what happened next. So far I’m loving this lifestyle, 4’ 11’ beautiful, god dam I’m having a good week. Knock on wood. Then there’s one that favored me and I messaged her. She was quite a ways outside my area by about 6 hours. Super hot though so I messaged her. I was completely transparent and said basically don’t take this the wrong way you’re gorgeous, but way outside my area…blah blah blah, but good luck out there. And I was serious. She messages me back with “I see.” That’s it, ok. So I message, “Too much?”. She messages me back, “never enough”. WTF how am I supposed to work with that. Is she interested, is she not, does she want to talk further, does she have a typing speech impediment? WHAT? Is she only allowed a certain number of key strokes like in Die Hard 4 or the computer blows up? Anyway, that was my first day and only 4 or so hours worth. I hope this helps some people. I'll post a follow up on the lady I did connect with as I need some advise.Unless ladies live in visa waiver countries (western Europe, Japan, South Korea etc) they are not traveling to the USA. These are all scams. Immigration enforcement is especially focused on preventing single women visiting since they know they will never leave if they get here on a visitors visa.
Ah, never even thought of that. Thanks for the tip. Does that include flight attendants?
...you've had your first successful encounter with the "knock on wood" gal. The rest of which you speak of is garbage to avoid, ignore, and forget about. Stick to your immediate vicinity, or fish where you travel routinely.
Juan, huge thanks for putting it out here for the group to share. I appreciate the call out of my past posts, and I hope some of my advice, along with the advice of many others, has helped you - and it looks like it has!
Your story is much like what each of us have experienced as we dip our (lets just say) toe in the Sugar Bowl. Sounds like you are off to a great start. I think you will now start to hone your radar and will spend less time on SB's outside your local area (for me that's only 10 miles, but for others it could be up to 100 miles) and more time on the "regular" locals who could be serving your that smoothie at Jamba Juice or or the cute cheerleader walking towards the community college on her way to practice for Friday's game.
Please keep the stories and experiences (good and bad) coming.
Life is good
The Cat
Thanks HC. I'm just glad we have a forum for this sort of thing. I remember when I first started researching SD/SB years ago and everything that popped up was some article from Men's Journal or whatever; nothing concrete, no real advice and then doing a deep dive in the provider arena led me here. Thank god.
LOL I totally was thinking that too, knock on wood.