My current rotation,
Asian/Latina mix, $600 per date. We've been seeing each other for over a year. I don't mind paying a little more. Sex is insane and she's a sweetheart. GCG, she gets $400 a date plus flowers. But I'm also getting a hotel and driving to San Diego. We spend the entire day, sometimes overnights together. She's very low maintenance. I've only ever spent a large amount on a meal and that was me planning something special for her birthday. Indian girl, she's coming in for an entire weekend. I told her I'd give her 1k the first time for the whole weekend but it will be $500 after that plus gas if she drives here. We will see how it goes after one time. I usually start an offer at $400. I prefer to get her to answer first though. If she gives an insane number, I just tell her where I'm at. Most girls will negotiate. Others will cut off the conversation there, good sign. If she's that high maintenance it's a pass. I can go up to $500 per date starting, but I'm clear on expectations. I ask about comfort level, leaning into intimacy but I let her define it first. We also discuss sharing tests and going bare. This is another area that can cause the conversation to end. Some girls want $600 a date, one round of covered sex. Or say they will lower the price but it's only a one hour date. Or say no sex the first time. I'm clear that I know what I want and we may not be on the same page. I don't make a huge deal out of it if we are not.Here in San Diego Ive noticed that 400 seems to be the magic number recently. Many ask more but it's fairly easy to get most ladies down to 400. 300 is much harder for sure.
I've seen the same in my part of the Los Angeles (San Fernando Valley) market as well. Still getting frequent initial asks from $1,000 or more, and at least half of those will never come down to less than $800-$1000. I've had to recalculate my budget for $400 as my average PPM, up from $300-$350. That means I'm less likely to include expensive dinners and even moderate gifts (over $100) from my BCD spend. My A-list now includes one at $500 and one at $300, so I'm averaging $400/week. And my B-List rates are $300, $400, and $800 (includes my Porn Stars) about once every 4-6 weeks.
I can't really call this a complaint, as I have been very successful in staying in the $300-$400 range for the last 8+ years. So I'll call what amounts to a 25-35% overall cost increase after 8 years an "observation."
I will also speculate on the obvious: those SB's who will agree to sub-$400 tend to be new to the Sugar Bowl, and have steady civilian incomes less than $40k per year (or about $19/hr.). So an arrangement that yields $600-$800 a month is about a 20% increase in income for around 6-8 hours work. And that 20% is roughly equivalent to working one extra week each month.
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The average I've been encountering in the greater LA/OC area has been 500-600ppm. I could get it a bit lower for less attractive girls but I tend to keep my quality higher these days. I've found the too good to be true model-quality profiles tend to ask for 1-2K but even if I agree to the higher PPM they never meet, so I suspect most of those are scammers, tire kickers or game players. Your mileage may vary.
My current rotation,
Asian/Latina mix, $600 per date. We've been seeing each other for over a year. I don't mind paying a little more. Sex is insane and she's a sweetheart.
GCG, she gets $400 a date plus flowers. But I'm also getting a hotel and driving to San Diego. We spend the entire day, sometimes overnights together. She's very low maintenance. I've only ever spent a large amount on a meal and that was me planning something special for her birthday.
Indian girl, she's coming in for an entire weekend. I told her I'd give her 1k the first time for the whole weekend but it will be $500 after that plus gas if she drives here. We will see how it goes after one time.
I usually start an offer at $400. I prefer to get her to answer first though. If she gives an insane number, I just tell her where I'm at. Most girls will negotiate. Others will cut off the conversation there, good sign. If she's that high maintenance it's a pass.
I can go up to $500 per date starting, but I'm clear on expectations. I ask about comfort level, leaning into intimacy but I let her define it first. We also discuss sharing tests and going bare. This is another area that can cause the conversation to end. Some girls want $600 a date, one round of covered sex. Or say they will lower the price but it's only a one hour date. Or say no sex the first time. I'm clear that I know what I want and we may not be on the same page. I don't make a huge deal out of it if we are not.
In OC / LA
decent looking girls , tight body , age 21- 28 say, tall & hot from 5 4 to 5 8 but not super ultra hot models — those I don’t even bother w
If I meet at her place 600, if I book a hotel, 500
I have learnt enough by now not to tolerate more than 600 — usually girls who want higher , end up coming back eventually.
I am clean, polite , in good shape for my age and that helps a bit.
One girl I for sure thought was out of my league agreed to 600 and was a surprise. Maybe it’s the economy , certainly the selection seems more eager to meet than was the case, say in mid 2022
My #1 SB is a beautiful, slim, 24yo Latina who I've been seeing every other week for the past year and a half for 300 per visit. And my former #1, a gorgeous 28yo, has returned and is now my #2. We started dating back in 2021 at 200 per visit and she's never asked for a raise! She's busy in nursing school, but told me today she'd be free on Thursdays again! Both of these amazing young women are wonderful in bed and want me to do anything I please with them. I guess my low average ppm is part of the benefit of living in Pussy Siberia.
When I lived in Palm Desert, 200 to 300 was the norm. My low was an 18yo who passed my apartment daily on her bike. She was living with her mom. Met her on the app. Turns out she lived 3 apartments away.
In my head I am thinking $500. But only the very young and inexperienced seem happy with that.
Ones I would date in real life, $700 works.
Many ask for $1K, that is their goal, I say no.
However, there was the one that wanted $1,200. She was not a 9 or 10 blonde, big boobed glamours model type which are all over the LA Seeking site. But a very pretty, sexy, normal 35 year old mother of two who has her own business, legit business. But she had game, was upfront, very normal, sent lots of great pics, was great to hang out with and I could see myself as a real bf/gf with. The problem was she just wasn't great in bed. Saw her a few times because she was just a fun great person to hang out with, but even with gentle guidance, too quiet, not a good bj, kissing meh.
While I do have a $700 smart as a tack white girl, sexy, fun cute as a button, but small boobs, but lots of fun.
So money doesn't matter.
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