Looks like Seeking is finally starting to enforce the selfie-verification requirement on some older SB accounts.  

 
As some of you know, I opened a "research" account on the site sometime around 2016. This was an SB profile, unpaid, with pics and a fully developed profile. I never used it for catfishing, of course. And I never replied to any of the dozens, sometimes hundreds of messages "she" received. I only used this account to get insight into the type of profiles and messages that a young, pretty, articulate college student would attract.  It helped me a lot in understanding why some POT's get jaded quickly by the almost overwhelming avalanche of creepy guys we are competing against.  

 
Today, after a long break, I decided to log in. Once I did, I was sent to the "selfie-verification" page and was told I must complete it before I could view profiles or be viewed.  Full stop. No option to verify later.   I exited the site without verifying and I'll have to see what happens next...

 
I checked my "real" account and did a cursory review. It looks like (almost?) all profiles created this year (2025) are selfie-verified.  But as much as 40-50% of older profiles are not and are still active (within the last month).  

 
So once again, this looks like inconsistent enforcement.  Are they prioritizing "clean up" on older, less active accounts perhaps because older ACTIVE accounts are still generating revenue indirectly through engagement with SD profiles?  

 
Every new answer about how Seeking is behaving seems to generate more questions.  

 
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The Cat

There are several newly created SB profiles that are not selfie verified.  Not premium, and with pictures.

How?

Herb, about how many reach outs did/do you get on the research account? Are SB POTS indeed inundated with inquiries? I spoke to a few POTS and some say they are swamped while others say they aren't. Hard to tell the truth from facts, but if they are swamped that might explain why many don't reply.

I've asked before, and a nice-looking girl can easily get a 100 inquires.  For the super hot ones, the number can exceed 500 or so!  It's not that there are more guys than girls on the site, but that the SD are immensely more active.

As you might expect, the research profile gets more messages (and views & favorites) when it is active.  

 
Every time "she" logs on, she will get at least 20 views and/or favorites within the next 5 minutes. And with those comes 4 to 8 messages. For the next 5-7 days after "she" logs off, another 30-50 views/favorites, and perhaps 12-15 messages will roll in. Most of the messages are one word, or one short sentence.  

 
What is interesting (sad, really) about most of the messages is that perhaps 75% are just "Hey" or "Hi" or a phone number.  Another 20% are some guy trying to look like a baller promising private jet flights to Vegas, thousands a month just to "hang" with him and the rest of his harem (my word), or promising some other over-the-top benefit. The final 5% look like "real" messages where the SD gives a brief into, makes some compliment/comment about her looks or profile and suggests ongoing communication.  

 
Generally, the more the guy's pics show luxury life (on speedboats, exiting a G4 in Paris, driving a Lambo), the shorter and sleazier the message. And if the guy has his shirt off in main pic - always a sleaze bag. I've said this before, shirt off pics are for Tinder, not Seeking.  

 
A POT SB is not primarily looking for guys with a 6-pack.  Instead, they are looking for a POT who is (in order of priority*):  
1. Safe - he's not going to harm her (this is a REAL concern).
2. Kind - he's not going to disrespect her.
3. Generous - he's going to provide for her at some level.  
4. Reliable - he's going to be consistently there.  
* This applies to what we tend to think of as a viable POT.  There are other priority lists for GPS, Rinsers, Catfishers, and scammers, primarily how much money you have and how fast they can get it.  

 
Notice that an SD's attractiveness is not on the list. An SD's looks do play a factor, but this is more of a bonus for her than a requirement.  If that doesn't make sense to you, just think of all the ugly-ass rock stars and athletes you know who pull the hottest groupies, GF's and trophy wives.  

 
Since I generally do not log on with "her" more than once a month (or longer), the message volume falls off.  I think at this point, with the profile being several years old, it's only getting noticed by new or newer SD profiles. The guys who have been around for a while in her area are probably used to seeing the profile and getting no response to their messages.  

 
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The Cat

Some very interesting insight that account has discovered - thanks for the info.

 
However, I tend to be quite divergent from your list of what a SB is looking for.  Actually, to be more precise, at the initial stage I believe we are concerned more with how her screening filters are setup, although from a practical side, it's more what the filters are in her head.

 
From what I've gathered from Reddit and my own feel of the land, I would order the selectively process more as:
1.  Height (definitely #1 altho I would have not thought so).  Desired: greater than 6 feet.
2.  Age (more my experience): less than early 50s or so.
3.  Projection of wealth, either from photos or profile language.
4.  Physical appearance: probably more body, (athletic and/or muscular)  and at least average facial.
5.  Not a total jerk...more or less a nice, kind guy

Your list is essentially inverted versus mine, which tends to confirm the old acronym: YMMV!  

 
Can you give more insight into how much of your POV comes from reddit vs personal experience, please?  

 
Also, probably worth considering that my opinions on "requirements" on SD looks are influenced by the SB's I tend to have as I am not particularly good looking. I am older - in my early 60's, I am tall - 6'1", and I am fat.  So I'll gladly qualify my list by saying the SB's that seem attracted to me are less concerned about classic good looks.  I guess by the "666" standard (6 ft tall, 6 pack, 6 figure income) my score is closer to 12 (6+0+6) than 18.  :LOL  

 
And I can count on one hand (well actually 3 fingers) the number of times I've had a successful bar or party pickup in my 4+ decades of adult social life.  

 
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The Cat

With regard to POV, I guess I'm the classic 6-6-6-6.
76 yo - 6'4" - 6 pack abs - 6 figure++ income.    
The six foot height requirement came off Reddit, it was a bit of surprise to me, but was more or less mentioned as  reactionary to the girls having to list  their weight.
Age wise: I'm at best, in the 5% success category for SB less than 20 or so.
In addition, I see numerous profiles requiring an age less than 50 - too bad I can't include that as an exclusionary  portion in my search.
I've been told, more than once, that SB really paid attention to the income listing that is no longer in use by Seeking.
And of course, Brain's interpretation is that your profile should project your wealth, so no need to list it.
At this point, I have three lovely SB in my rotation - altho I hesitate to designate it at that.  #1 is an well known East European singer that accompanies me throughout Europe.  #2 is a size E, busty girl  that should have been an escort as in there is nothing off limits sexually, and #3 is a young nursing student.  They are all exclusive to me (their request) so, at times it is difficult to keep them all happy sexually...yeah, I know, good problem to have.  LOL
But, I remember your sage advice to have at least  "one on deck," so I still dabble.

Thanks for the context.  It makes me consider what we have in common more than what we do not. And I suspect it's that we are both confident, respectful, and excellent communicators with our POT's and SB's.  

 
We set realistic expectations for them and ourselves, then delver consistently.  

 
Perhaps the laws of attraction, loyalty and trust are much more complex than we can document here. But honesty and consistency seem to be foundational.  

 
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The Cat

I am very surprised by this #1 ranking for height. Height only figured in in a minor way in my dating experience in the US. It may be a racial mix thing.  I am 5-10"/178 cm, which is above average for a US male. The US average is brought down by all the short Latinos, and to a lesser degree by the Asian population.  

 
Europeans, both men and women, are taller on average. For example, Dutch men average over 6', so anyone under that is a shortie. Lots of tall European women.  

 
Here in the US I dated all sorts, and some of the women were very short, as in under 5' (some of the best!), with most in the 5'-5-4 range. Here, a woman of 5-8"  is tall.

 
So if there is any truth to this, I think all the short Latinos change both the actual definition  and the perception of "short" here in the US. A woman is not going to go, nah, 5-8" doesn't cut it, when there are so many shorter guys araound. Conversely, a tall European woman is probably going to be looking for a taller guy - which is much taller than in the US.

Excellent information here, Herb. It does seem to confirm with my own observations that they don't really score looks super high on the list. I haven't found looks and height to be particularly high on any POTS list I've met.  

 
The fact that most of the 7's-8's and above are getting hundreds of messages per week for active profiles speaks to the lack of response to most of our inquiries. Even if you've crafted a nice opening intro text that covers the basics of safety, reliability and respect, the chances are still pretty low it will be read or responded to.  

 
I've been running my year end statistics and seeing my response rate has dropped to as low as 23% from last year's 30%, no doubt due in some part to my reaching out to more attractive POTS in recent months. From those who have responded, my close ['BCD'] rate has been quite low, for the same reasons; the more attractive ones are in more demand and are looking for a higher end SD with a much higher than average PPM.  

 
My physical appearance and outgoing personality have not elevated me over their top priority which is the higher PPM.    

But, just to put it into perspective, it was on the Reddit site and we all know how the girls there can be somewhat vindictive.  And, tbh, your 178 easily rounds up to 180 or so, which means you probably 'make the cut'   LOL.

My EU girl is 180cm but my E-size SB is 155cm but I can't say the quality of our sexual encounters is in any way related.

This is a direct quote from an email from Seeking Customer Service

"To help keep our platform safe and authentic, we’re gradually requiring Selfie Verification for all members. You may have already seen a notice with a countdown before this became required. While it may not be mandatory for you at this moment, please know that it will be required at some point in the future. This verification is for internal use only—no other members can view it.

If your access becomes blocked, you’ll need to complete the Selfie Verification to continue using Seeking. Even if verification is required, you’ll still be able to manage your account settings, cancel your subscription, or delete your account."

Contorting yourself for all those back pats. That shit come with tights and a cape?

You all take yourselves much too seriously.

Congrats on all those 6s.  I only have 1, the income.  Working on the 6 pack.  Doubt I can hang upside down enough to grow to 6 ft, lol.  And I'm not in my 60s yet.

I started working out with a guy almost 70.  He's cut like the statue David.  He thanks genetics but his workout routine and diet are the real secret.

But seriously, the secret to my success has always been being stable.  Even when they are not.