Especially when "she" (if it even is a she) adds those heart wrenching details like her kid's birthday. They are just manipulating your emotions to get some $$ from you. Don't do it. Also, many of the legit SBs have very sad backstories. You will feel sorry for them, but never send money in advance. The only time breaking this rule turned out well was with a SB I dated happily for some months who quit sugaring because she wanted to get serious with her BF. Fast forward a year, and she texted me out of the blue with a sob story about having to pay $500 in court and had no one to turn to but me, and how kind I always was to her and how she'd def make it up to me. I decided to say wtf and gave her the $$. Much to my amazement she did make it up to me, in spades, and we dated happily again for a few months until another BF came along and she stopped once more. I know I've told this story before on this board, apologies to those I'm boring to death. But I can't wait till she dumps the new BF and finds herself in dire need of some $$. I bet she calls me again!
I sent a message to a woman on SA weeks ago. I never got a reply until yesterday. Basically her reply was a sob story about how she'd lost both of her jobs and her son's b-day is this week and she has no money, etc. There was a part of me that felt bad, (I don't like to hear stories of people losing their jobs). However, something felt weird that a woman I haven't heard from, ever, would suddenly reach out looking for $$ without even a sniff of making an arrangement or discussing a meeting. It just seemed like a rip-off scheme. So, I didn't pay the message any mind.
But it did get me thinking...anyone have a SB sob-story that worked out for both you and the SB in the end?
There are a zillion chicks out there who have made bad life choices and are desperate for money. You just have to not send them the money until they deliver the goods. Otherwise they will disappear with the cash and never be seen from again.
Especially when "she" (if it even is a she) adds those heart wrenching details like her kid's birthday. They are just manipulating your emotions to get some $$ from you. Don't do it. Also, many of the legit SBs have very sad backstories. You will feel sorry for them, but never send money in advance. The only time breaking this rule turned out well was with a SB I dated happily for some months who quit sugaring because she wanted to get serious with her BF. Fast forward a year, and she texted me out of the blue with a sob story about having to pay $500 in court and had no one to turn to but me, and how kind I always was to her and how she'd def make it up to me. I decided to say wtf and gave her the $$. Much to my amazement she did make it up to me, in spades, and we dated happily again for a few months until another BF came along and she stopped once more. I know I've told this story before on this board, apologies to those I'm boring to death. But I can't wait till she dumps the new BF and finds herself in dire need of some $$. I bet she calls me again!
Back when I lived in Atlanta I used to go to the Mississippi casinos all the time, and there weren't really a lot of options in such "big cities" as Biloxi, MS. lol I can't remember the actual "emergency" but one provider I had seen a couple of times (and liked) called me up out of the blue one day with some kind of a crisis along with a promise to "make it up to me" the next time I was in town. Against my better nature I went ahead and sent her some money, knowing full well that not only was I probably throwing my money away, but that most likely I'd have to find a new hooker in Biloxi since she'd probably go into hiding now that she owed me money.
Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. Not only did she meet me and rocked my world the next time I came to town, but I found my hour sessions started turning into 90 minutes session and later into multi hour sessions without her asking for a penny more than our hour sessions had run me before. We actually came up with an "arrangement" that whenever she had an emergency, as long as it wasn't more money than she could make up for in in a single session she was more than free to hit me up whenever she liked, She NEVER disappointed and it was one of the most successful hooker/john relationships I ever had that stayed completely professional, we never "dated" for real, and never became anything more than a hooker/john relationship, but it was a VERY VERY good relationship indeed
BTW she is the one that first introduced me to the female condom. She told me she had a "surprise" for me, we met at my hotel and she turned the lights down really low and climbed on top of me for CG, The moment she settled down on my dick I almost jumped out of the bed I honestly thought her "surprise" was BBFS it felt so good. lol That's why she turned the lights down I am sure, so I couldn't see the FC when she rode my dick.
So yes, some sob stories do have a happy ending, but I don't have any where I sent a stranger money in advance of meeting her and was happily surprised and I guess I never will because I have NEVER and I will NEVER send a POT SB money if we have never met in person. That is one one ironclad rule in the Sugar Bowl, and it should be everyone's
It's a challenge to get most mid-tier hookers to even discuss a female condom, let alone try one. They generally don't know about them and usually think the John is just trying to scam them into BB. . But try explaining a female condom to a 19 year old SB, especially the process they need to use to insert one. It's like trying to teach your dog algebra. My proof: I still have 3 dozen of 4 dozen FC2's purchased in 2018 in my closet, still in sealed packages, and they are approaching their 3 year expiration date. (Hey, I got a deal on Amazon from a Canadian merchant.) . The only good outcome I had from these were to 2 SB's who thought about it, opened them up, read the instructions (Seriously, get one and read the instructions - it's like reading assembly instructions for an entertainment center from China, if the only instructions were written by the company's marketing dept. then translated from Chinese to German, and then from German to Klingon), and then just said fuck it and hopped on me bare. . Mostly when I give one to an SB to consider I think they end up using them as a drink coaster at their BF's apartment. . I suppose there is an argument that an older SB (maybe 30+) might be more amenable or at least familiar with the idea. But IME SB's that age have already taken responsibility for their own birth control (pill, IUD, Depo, etc.) and the FC is not relevant (as long as you have trust and mutual test results - or a lot of her favorite tequila :p, of course). . Life is good. . The Cat
There is a university only a mile or so from me and I have seen a few SBs who go there, FC's are given away free on campus and a couple of my younger SB's have used them with me.
You'd be surprised just how savvy sex wise some of these younger girls are. One of those younger SBs who brought her own FC's with her for us to try also knew exactly how she wanted to be fucked. It was like fucking a thirty year old in an 18 year old's body. lol
Interesting, unlike Herbtcat, I've found that several of my favorite providers LOVE the female condom... they have them and use them with no prompting from me...
I say that about Saab vehicles too. My brother bought one years ago and was all excited about it, I took the air out of his wings saying “it’s just another Saab story!” He didn’t like it, but he really didn’t like the blown motor either at 80,000 miles.
Now because of his car purchase I can say it runs in the Family. I have fallen prey to those stories 3 times. Each for low money $50 or $100, each never heard from them again.
Don’t fall for it period. No good deed goes unpunished.
Mine is related to neither a SB actively looking or hooker, but she is one of my SBs. She occasionally bartended at my favorite watering hole. While I wanted to go BCD (very hot) she had bf and nothing happened. After knowing her about a year she had a lot of things go south due to the bf leaving and needed help. I took a chance and gave her some money (not all that she needed but she knew I could give her everything she needed). She gave the story about how she’ll make it up to me, she needs time to take care of things, blah, blah, blah. Figured I was out a few hundred and she would ghost. But about a week later she started to deliver on her end. Over the next ten months I paid in advance and she always delivered. At this point she did not need to money to take care of the mess, but we kept this up for another seven months so she could start to get ahead. Figured it out and basically it was costing me roughly a Franklin per hour BDC, plus the cost of maybe 7 date-nights. It was her decision for us to meet 10 times a month to pay me back and these usually ended up being multi-hours/MSOG. She found a new bf, and have not heard from or seen her since. But should she need help she knows where to find me!
I met an early 40-something Filipina MILF on SA and we texted for a couple weeks... cute face, decent body, seemed sweet and genuine -- definitely did not get the "player" vibe. I trusted she was real. She wanted to meet, but I had scheduling issues. She seemed genuinely willing to meet BCD. It wasn't long when she told me was short on rent, and needed help "now." She gave me her banking info and I made a deposit for her to help out (it might have been $500 -- basically, for some reason I felt charitable and willing to lose that much).
That night we met in person for "coffee," which meant we met in a parking lot of a grocery store. We made out in my car, and she was actually game to jump in the back seat, but the privacy wasn't quite there... A week later we met at a hotel and she paid me back. That was almost 2-1/2 years ago, and we've been meeting off and on ever since. I often advance her but she always comes through, with enthusiasm, because I show her a good time. She's genuinely poor, struggling to get through school and start a new career. I probably never even spent more than $50 on dinner for the both of us. She's not perfect, but playful, reliable and clean -- and only sees me (at least as far as I know).
I don't care to share how many times an "advance" has NOT paid off, as it's just plain embarrassing. Some I've never met. Some I met but they had some excuse or another for not putting out.
One girl, who was probably a fat dude operating out of his Mom's basement, actually gave me "proof of life" in the form of a birth certificate -- which I googled "colorado birth certificat" to see if I could verify what they looked like (because this looked very fake) and actually found the original online -- it was for someone born in 1916 (no shit) and "she" very poorly photoshopped in "her" name. Oddly "she" got offended when I called her a fraud. LOL!
Right now I've got a girl I've texted with for almost a couple years... single mom... she sent me pics and access to her private Instagram. I've helped her a little now and again, but she always had this excuse or that, or I had scheduling issues... now she claims she's 8 months pregnant due to a rape... not even sure that's real.
I've heard a million stories... don't ever give anything more than you're willing to lose. Problem is, you can't really take a tax write-off.
Don't let them change the 1st Rule about Sugar (or hookers!): NO MONEY IN ADVACNE!! . I have success stories as well, but put these into some numerical context: For those times I have sent money (from as little as $40 to as much as $700), I've lost at least 90% of the time. I can think of only 3 times in 11 years that I wasn't burned, out of perhaps a dozen times I was. And all of the times I was burned were with SB's I have seen BDC at least 4 times. Now add to that all of the times I've been asked pre-BCD, which I have (of course) refused, and the chance of success (i.e.: Getting at least one BCD or perhaps actually being paid back) are probably less than 5%, if not near zero. . Obviously the biggest risk, in other words almost certainty, of being burned is with SB's you've never met face to face. The next level of (lower) risk is with SB's you have met, but not yet gone BCD. And of course, its still lower for SB's you've already banged. But it's never zero, or in my experience, still about a 80% burn rate. . Fortunately, I've only lost substantial funds ($700) one time. The rest of my losses were generally between $40 and $100 each. I can afford those losses, but a burn is still a burn. . How to handle these requests? It's the same for any situation: . "I'd love to help you. You can get the cash when we (next) meet and have some fun together." . So you are saying "yes" - which will keep the non-scammers interested - but (re)enforcing your rules. You are the Daddy here and Daddy makes the rules. Scammers will try to twist or bargain or call you names just to guilt you into paying. Just restate your position. No need to get mad, be nasty, call her a scammer, or ask her "prove" her need. If she's a scammer, she (he?) will soon realize you're not an easy mark and will move on. If she's "legit" she will understand and may move on, or she may find a way to come see you, or she will deal with her issues and remember that although you didn't help her this time, you are not a jerk and could be a suitable SD in the near future. . I have one POT now that I connected with near the start of the lock down in LA on Apr 7. In texts, she told me she's a law school student, was laid off her job, and is trying the site. She suggested an online until the lockdown ends and I politely declined. We left off with mutual "good luck" messages. Yesterday, 6 weeks later, she texted me to say Hi. She lost her job (not sure if that's a new job?), is stressed, been eating rice for three months (WTF?), and says she's scared. She wasn't able to get unemployment and needs my help "so bad". I said "as soon we get out of quarantine I want to help." Then suggested we plan on meeting as soon as we can after the lockdown. Is she "legit"? Is she a scammer? No idea. But I'll play along for now. . Just remember that being nice does not equal being weak. Be nice, and be strong. And you will find that... . Life is good. . The Cat
This actually reminds me of another story... met a cute 30-something girl on SA and we had dinner... I think I gave her $200 for dinner, which was agreed upon in advance. She claimed she was sexually adventuresome, and it seemed she was telling the truth. It didn't go much further, as she wanted $2,000 a month, or nothing. She had lost her job and needed to pay rent and support her kid. Things were so tight she was still living with her ex in the same house. I just wasn't wanting to commit that much as I didn't have the time.
Not long after, she hit me up to buy a $55 Nintendo Switch Controller for her son's Christmas present, promising me a BJ. Sounded like a good deal, so of course, I ordered the gift for her kid. Needless to say, Amazon delivered the kid's gift, but she never delivered on mine... coming up with some story about I'd have to commit to the $2,000... Shoulda paid the message no mind.
She KNEW you'd be good for at least a few more bucks without her putting out.
Moral of the story, don't pay ANYTHING until you go BCD, that is if you ever want to actually go BCD of course. lol
and there is nothing wrong with PROMISING ,$2,000 month, just as long as you give it to her incrementally throughout the course of the month, as long as she is keeping you happy of course.
Don't worry, live and learn. In the combined experience of the guys on this board there should be very few scams that at least some of us haven't encountered.
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