I have a hard time understanding why any woman would allow a man to release his semen on her face, body etc. What do guys get out of this? I'm at a loss to understand why any woman would tolerate this, because I find the whole thing very demeaning to women. Maybe it's because I from a different country, but I just don't understand it.
Or maybe, weedwacker #1,
It's because you are a different gender with a different target attraction of erotic interest? Meaning, you are a male sexually attracted to females and just don't understand women, period. For a female attracted to males, it may be extremely arousing to watch semen shoot out and land on eroticized parts of her body. Demeaning? Well, as a female, I can tell you that I find it 1000 times more demeaning that I would have to wear a head covering in Islamic countries [and that's just for starters, what about veils, chadors or burkas!] INVOLUNTARILY?!
And quite frankly, we don't even have to go that far. Try being a female PhD going with a bunch of Wall Street types to dinner, only to hear things like "oh, it's so nice, we get some feminine beauty at dinner tonight" while I'm actually there to analyze communication between two business partners - that just floors me so much more than knowing that some women get it on with guys and genuinely enjoy all parts of men's bodies, including their sperm.
As for some men, they may find it erotic and exciting to watch their own semen shoot out and land a woman's face, breasts or buttocks. Who says a load always has to land inside a vagina? This is just being a little more creative and having fun with a fascinating bodily occurrence - ejaculation.
I'm curious to find out how you feel about your own bodily fluids - do you think sperm is disgusting? Or is it the symbolism you're having issues with? Depending on your cultural viewpoint, you could see semen as something gross and disgusting, or you could see it as a precious substance, life-giving and miraculous. I for one find human bodies AND minds quite interesting in all their complexities. Now granted, sperm is messy, but hey, sometimes I'd rather have it in my face than on my sheets - easier cleanup for sure. Or why not between your boobs if you're a woman? How erotic to squash your breasts together and make a small [or big] pudgy bed for the splooge to land on? And watch the guy's face as he goes all beatific? Now that's serious cinema verité! It's also very empowering for women to know that they can create such sexual tension - hardly demeaning or belittling when it's VOLUNTARY.
It's possible that you don't understand these things because you did not grow up in a sexually sophisticated culture with widespread sexual imagery. For that to happen - and I'm not talking about Kama Sutra here, that's literary tradition - you need a nation that has a fairly stable government, a semblance of democracy, a secular or non-religious culture and above all, a surplus of resources. The last one is really crucial because when people live in "abundance," they don't have to focus on the lower rungs of the hierarchy of needs and can busy themselves with getting all sensual with each other. You see this throughout history in erotic imagery from some Asian countries - Japan [which still has some incredibly raunchy sexual iconography], India or even Iran, where there has been serious tradition of erotic drawings and watercolors from the 1500-1600s.
Please understand that as long as things are done VOLUNTARILY, they are not demeaning. If you feel this way about semen, how do you feel about BDSM, where people REALLY whale on each other, restrain each other and play for hours with some serious humiliation?
Go to a BDSM website and marvel. In the meantime, understand that it's EXCITING AND EROTIC for both parties to play with sperm on occasion,
The Love Goddess
For heaven's sake don't mention the pee-pee sites out there to him!
The key word is voluntarily, a provider may hate it but she does it because she's getting paid. From a civilian standpoint, as long as it's voluntary, you'll get no complaints from me.
Well then,
If you're doing that, then why should one behavior be more objectionable than another? Then why aren't you amazed that people are having sex for money at all? And what about all the gay male providers - should they be repulsed too?
At last count, I saw more hobbyists complaining about behaviors providers WOULDN'T do, than providers complaining [under aliases, natch] about things they "had to."
If it's providers on TER that you're talking about, most of them have a very well-defined laundry list of what they will and will not do for money. If it's trafficked or coerced women in general, then the entire act would be disgusting to them.
It may come as yet another surprise to you, but many providers PREFER getting their faces and bodies jizzed rather than the sheets - if nothing else from a reason of pure practicality.
Finally, if you really want to know what PROVIDERS think - and clearly, this was NOT defined in your posting - then please ask the same question on the GD board.
I doubt their replies will be that different from mine, but hey, I could be dead wrong,
The Love Goddess
hello weedwacker#1...i am a provider, but i do not engage in any activity within the hobby that i would not participate in outside of it. in fact (and i suspect this is common)...the activities i engage in within the hobby are quite limited compared to what i do in my other sexual relationships.
i find it highly erotic and pleasurable for a man to release on my face or body. why? well the visible, tangible sign of his lust is awesome of course, but more than that i enjoy the primal symbolism of it. in a sense he is marking me, claiming me as something he has possessed. as a naturally submissive woman, it is something that just gives me that purely FEMALE feeling. and absolutely always, after a man has marked me in this way...whether it is a client or my Husband...i smile and say "thank you," because i truly do appreciate it. but, that is just my nerdy/anthro/subbie point of view. ![]()
Then, it seems you would also enjoy primal utterances, which some people describe as "dirty talk" (not meaning literally, but signifying an emotional state and release).
I have to point out that head covering does not only applies to the Islamic religion/countries.
I am fortunate to have been exposed to a wide range of cultures since I was young, from Eastern Europe to Central and Western Europe, and the Middle East, and I can tell you that Islam is not the only religion that dictate head covering for women.
Here is a short list of the other religions that do to some extent:
Catholics
Mennonite
Orthodox Christians (Europe & Middle East)
Eastern Orthodox Christians
Coptic Christians
Orthodox Jews
Also, did know that until the 1960s it was required for Catholic women to cover their heads in church.
The main purpose of the Christian woman's head covering, as stated by Paul, is that it is a sign of man's authority over woman (think of Nuns).
The purpose of Islamic head covering is modesty and cleanness (long hair is considered unclean), not male authority (but the majority of countries take it to the extreme - a control thing).
Orthodox Jews require married women to cover their head (I think it applies to covering the hair).
I know for a fact, in Bulgaria (my country of origin), and Czechoslovakia Catholic women and young girls are required to use head covering like Nuns, its also considered a sign of modesty, and respect to the church.
Please do not think I approve of these measures, especially when it comes to the forcible use of Veils, Burkas, scarfs, and others as I think they are demeaning, and are a gross violation of human rights, and the practice should be banned by international law.
Just trying to point out that this practice is wide spread, and is not limited to islamic countries.
As for COB/COF I personally do not find them pleasurable, I would rather release in an embrace with a DFK, but if a lady requests it I will.
Yes, twolipseeker,
I am more than aware of these additional cultures regarding head coverings. My point was related to Islamic countries rather than Islamic cultures, and specifically countries where female head coverings are MANDATORY AT ANY GIVEN TIME unless indoors in front of immediate family, not just when visiting places of worship.
As for Orthodox Jews, a woman's hair is considered her "crowning glory;" paradoxically, while unmarried ladies may show their hair, many Orthodox Jewish married women wear wigs [shaydels] on top of their own hair in lieu of scarves. Hence, such women look like they have uncovered heads but in fact they do not. As for the other Christian religions, they apply to church visits. In some Balkan/Slavic countries, widows were required to wear black and cover their heads when going outside [the "babushka" look] but the practice has largely fallen by the wayside.
I also grew up in Europe and am extremely familiar with female religious traditions in the Judeo-Christian and Islamic religions, FWIW,
The Love Goddess
Not because of any unconscious need to demean women but because I'm a very visual person and adding the visual stimulation of COF of COB to the already pleasurable sensation of orgasm steps the experience up a notch for me.
I never assume that it's something the lady enjoys, though. However, I am pleasantly surprised at the number of ladies who also enjoy it. It may be from convenience or the sense of a job well done, or because they know that they've brought another person such pleasure, or just because, (in the words of a very fun lady I see) "That's hot".
I also have a difficult time coming when wearing a condom, so a great HJ or BBBJ witch some cum play really makes my day. One of my more memorable encounters involved the following conversation,
ME- "I think I want to cum on that gorgeous chest"
HER- "No. Fuck my tits and cum on my face"
Man, I need to call her!
"I have a hard time understanding why any woman would allow a man to release his semen on her face, body etc. What do guys get out of this?"
I have a hard time understanding why a guy would do that and not slowly lick it off her face and body.It seems disrespectful,to just leave it there. I don't spit on the sidewalk,I swallow my saliva. I would never ask her for CIM unless I willing to swallow her snowball. You might say Yuck, but she never has.
I love my country and my ladies..
I was with a lovely latina just a few weeks ago, she had very few rules (f/s covered) and when we were toward the finish, I asked if I could CIM she said no, I want it "COF" Ok by me, afterward, I gave her a big DFK all over her face. We had so much fun we repeated it again.
Not into this practice (face) not even a little bit...too power trippy for me, but have no problem with those that like this. This is not only for work but civvie too.
Erotic indeed ! ...
Had never thought of coming on someone until a provider asked me to come on her. I found it very exciting since it was an extension of the excitment we were already feeling. Letting loose and release of boring steriotypes.