...I closed my posting. I don't think I'm up for the challenge of finding a SB in this latest iteration of SA/SB relationship searching. As with much in the online world, when it's new, it's awesome BUT over time, people learn their hacks and scams and eventually something with good intent becomes something else.
I had what I thought were a few promising emails, but they turned out to be dead ends. The best possibility was a 30-some very pretty, busty woman who seemed great. Until we chatted further and she wanted money simply to meet, and she wanted money for rent, her 3 growing boys, their tuition and activities, weekly allowance for nails, hair, gas etc. She wanted $2000/week. Um, how about nooooo! I presented my proposal, she wasn't interested and was clearly offended. 'nuff said. Lots of asian women (scammers/bots) wrote me - wanted my WhatsApp number or other apps, they don't need money, own restaurants, are importer/exporters, or work in crypto...I'll pass. Lots of catfishing, fake photos, women who can't host but live hundreds of miles away, FMTY offers, and women of all shapes and sizes with ridiculous expectations - claiming they had SDs before who met their needs in the past but they broke up. "I'm high end, classy, worth it, know my worth, you won't be disappointed, blah, blah, blah..." I'll keep my eyes open and maybe something offline will develop organically, (as was my first SB experience). That was my best...damn, where is she now? For now, I'm going to stay with pros. Good luck guys.I don't blame you for bailing out, RC. It's exhausting and frustrating. It took me three months to find an SB and she wasn't even hot, so I get it. The pickins are indeed slim on SA right now for me, too. I'm gonna stay with it as long as I can, if it gets to be too much I'll probably take a break from it and just enjoy my current rotation until they end.
... after years of exile. I probably won't stay for long -- what a disappointment.
I think you are articulating a reality that most of the guys on here haven't truly come to grips with. Sure, there numerous posts on here listing strings of 'red flags' to avoid and offering the obvious advice about not paying a girl in advance, but it seems Seeking may have run it's course for those precise reasons you mentioned. The girls have mastered the hacks and scams and are now just basically fishing for those older, somewhat well-off guys to hook, fry and eat.
The 'girls' (using this word loosely of course) have become exceeding more sophisticated and are probably even using AI scams to take advantage of even those guys who equally think they they have been trained in all the counter-measures. Sadly, the girls who may be somewhat legitimate have been educated via the numerous forums so as to badly inflate their ppm figures.
There may be a small universe of non-white girls still remaining, but that pool will certainly dry up as guys start over populating that avenue.
Arrivederci Seeking, it was nice to know you!
And yet, we must ask where else might we find datable, young pussy in the space between hooker and gf/wife? As far as SA has fallen, I don't know the better alternative.
Rockford
I'll continue to bitch about the crap we have to endure on SA these days. But there's no viable alternative. So I will continue to invest the time and effort, even if the pickings are slim!
In another prior thread I outlined how I’ve snagged a couple of semi pros who hang out w me for like 4-5 hours each time for the price of one ppm plus hotel
There is no hassle of allowance or having to see them every week and all the drama
The downside for me is, I really liked the somewhat “unused” and “natural” aspect of sex with Civvies - the real ones enjoy it as much as you do and sometimes go multiple rounds and are into experimentation and what not
The pros, even if they spend more time w you, are, well, pros unfortunately
I have been thinking of signing up on SA for 3 mos this time and giving it another shot but I am afraid the past good SBs have set the standard so high, I am going to be constantly comparing and get disappointed
The best strategy I guess is to maybe wait for an economic downturn next year or sometime then ( a real one, not the fake ones conjured up by social media doom prophets) — and then take my shot since there will be a lot more young women in need of financial help
In fact sad as it is, but fact remains —- a slow economic recovery is what made the early 2010s such a golden era for escorting and dating for relatively wealthy men
Hello…thanks for the post. Can you define “semi-pro” and where/how you meet them? Thanks
These aren’t women you will find reviewed on TER or women who do this full time and advertise
Mostly mid 20s to mid 30s types, in LA who are doing something else for work and use escorting to supplement their income
I met them through an under the radar booker who deals w such ladies and does not advertise but operates via references.
Some girls were strict w keeping it 1h and done type but I was able to strike up a casual relationship w two who I see on the side now bypassing the booker.
Doesn’t work out too bad 600-700 for a multi hour date at her place, no clock watching and we treat this as sort of a friendly encounter as in - I will take her for dinner, sometimes light errands etc - I try to alternate between the two girls, one like more than the other so she gets more frequent visits
Upside is they are relatively beautiful compared to the uglies & fatties you find on seeking nowadays. The few hot ones on seeking now have astronomical expectations
While at least the one UTR booker I know is fantastic, the rates for all girls, on Seeking or otherwise, like inflation has risen dramatically. The UTR ones are much more GFE, they are clean, safe and very nice. But almost all of them are now $1,300+ per hour. Again, they probably won't be a clock watcher, which is great, but vert expensive. LA SB's now want at least $500 ppm for a decent one, and they are all asking for $1K. I'd rather just work my charms the old fashioned way and I've been amazed how many women (of all ages) are open to some sugar, even not on Seeking.
That's interesting about private citizen chicks being open to sugar, but to me it runs the risk of getting reported to LE for solicitation.
I've had a lot of very unsatisfactory experiences with pros. For me, SB's provide the best and most satisfying experience overall and feel like real regular girlfriends. [and in many cases, some almost are!]. Yes, the pickins are slim on SA and the close rate is low but for me the juice is still worth the squeeze. Keep in mind that a good SR can last many months if you are a good match, so that in itself can make all the pain worth it. Given the alternatives [there are really none for me] it's SA or go without.
Same here. I'm always reading reviews by various mongers that make it seem like they've died and gone to heaven. Then I'll try that provider, and the experience ranges from just okay to mildly disappointed. It's not the pro. I think I'm just cut from a differnt cloth in that an emotional connection greatly enhances the experience for me. In other words, a REAL, genuine, girlfriend experience.
I agree it has become a cesspool.
When I started a couple of years ago it seemed I was able to snag a few SBs within a couple of weeks. Of course that was the pandemic period and the economy was different. My feeling is there are more scammers, uglies and fakes and fewer genuine SBs. And many of these have hiked their prices beyond my budget at least in the DC area.
I don't know all the reasons but my guess is the sugar world has been tainted by social media and the novelty wearing off.
Not sure exactly where to go right now, the pro experience is not the same but I may take a break and re-evaluate.
What type of SB are you seeking?