and I simply cannot imagine what planet they live on or what weirdo expectations they have. I too have made the attempt to give them meaningful advice and received mean spirited bullshit for my efforts. I'm not as thick skinned as you are Herb, it always hurts my feelings. What can you do, there are crazy deluded people in this world. As for the ones who expect you to delete your profile and be exclusive, I actually have a very open, ENM, poly relationship with my wife at home. I've considered adding that info on my profile, but for various reasons I have not done so. Therefore I try to make it absolutely clear in my first few messages that I am not seeking nor offering anything exclusive. That has to be ok with them. In fact, many are really relieved and pleased to hear it cuz they want to enjoy the variety of several SDs and would rather be honest about it. So there's an upside. Anyway y'all, try to avoid the crazies and keep on finding the gems!
Here's a quick story for your consideration. I'm not upset about this, just mildly amused and SMH...
About 4 weeks ago I got a 1st time message that said: "hi there" The profile is a 43 year old in LA. Her only pic of a dirty blond-haired woman is cropped from her left eye, under large sunglasses, to her shoulder and doesn't include her nose. So you can only see her jaw line. Her profile text is minimal: one general statement about being happy and no drama.
As you might surmise, she is far outside my preferred sweet spot for POT's, so naturally I ignored her message.
Today she sent a new message: "why you don't respond to me"
Now I try to be a helpful fella. Although I have no interest in her, I took time to craft a detailed response that was, well not mean, but candid, as a friendly gesture of coaching to a presumptive noob in the Sugar Bowl. Here's what I sent:
"Hello. The reasons I have not replied to your message are:
1. You have no information in your profile to tell me who you are and what you are like
2. Your picture gives me no idea what you look like
3. Your 1st message had no useful info. I have no idea why you contacted me or what you are looking for
Please consider adding more text & pics in your profile so potentially interested people can get a better sense of who you are, and then they can better decide if they may want to date you.
I hope that helps."
Her almost immediate reply: "Dude! you need a reality check !"
Note that now she chooses to actually use punctuation. LOL
And then she blocked me.
So much for being a nice guy. LOL
Now again, this doesn't bother me. I'm not losing any sleep over it. I am losing sleep by sleeping with hot 20-somethings who like Daddy to spank them when they deep throat me. And that includes my Top-shelf Asian porn star who is driving to my place tomorrow for several hours of sleepless, slippery, sex.
I do wander why this overage, under-spoken, and entitled hag blocked me, though. Does she think that will somehow hurt me, or make me feel bad? In fact, she did me a favor by ensuring that I won't have to take more time to read her useless messages. Anyway...
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The Cat
Your story reminds me of a Manhattan chick. 30+yo, stylish, petite, articulate. We seemed to mightily click on the platform and went to private text. We set up a date at a specific evening, time, and place (a fancy steakhouse, which is my MO).
We talked on the phone to make sure we vibed well enough. Everything was trending in the right direction.
Then began incessant bitching about "You are still active on SA. I can see when you are on. Who else are you talking to?" ??? That bullshit.
We talked again on the phone, and that was it. I told her we'd both be happier after I canceled our date. She pitched a fit (thankfully over the phone). She wanted an exclusive commitment before we even met. She wanted me to cancel my account.
Clearly, that date was canceled. Then as I recall, I had a 19yo Asian Columbia art student in my suite the night I originally scheduled with the first chick. (The art student was always a viable backup. A 7 on looks and 9 on performance. She was a squealer.)
I think the lesson is, when a girl gets all haughty, or bitchy, just remember the girls in your pipeline. There's no reason to lock down on some new girl who exhibits a bad attitude.
Rockfordfile
Scammers want you to quit the service so you can't later easily report the scam.
Overestimates her place in the pecking order.
Overprotective of her other identity
Just missing the Outrageous rate ask.
Blocks you even though you’re barely responding in perfunctory fashion.
My one the other day starting sending multiple long, increasing angry texts after the kind of critique you gave She finally got exasperated with my silence and ended with “weirdo”. She had sent like 15 texts in total (not including the last one) spanning multiple screens is and I only two. My last word was “lol”.
and I simply cannot imagine what planet they live on or what weirdo expectations they have. I too have made the attempt to give them meaningful advice and received mean spirited bullshit for my efforts. I'm not as thick skinned as you are Herb, it always hurts my feelings. What can you do, there are crazy deluded people in this world. As for the ones who expect you to delete your profile and be exclusive, I actually have a very open, ENM, poly relationship with my wife at home. I've considered adding that info on my profile, but for various reasons I have not done so. Therefore I try to make it absolutely clear in my first few messages that I am not seeking nor offering anything exclusive. That has to be ok with them. In fact, many are really relieved and pleased to hear it cuz they want to enjoy the variety of several SDs and would rather be honest about it. So there's an upside. Anyway y'all, try to avoid the crazies and keep on finding the gems!
I am also ENM and go back and forth including it in my profile. When I include it, my reply ratio goes way down.
When I don't include it in the profile, replies go way up but the first messages when I bring it (because I am Ethical) it definitely scares most away. I try explaining ENM but the GPS just don't get it.
Its been my experience that the more mature SBs have a higher incidence of GPS.
Pardon my ignorance but what does GPS stand for?
This term is applied to women who think their pussy is uniquely worth more than any other pussy on the planet.
And so they assume that ALL men must automatically recognize their Golden-ness and should therefor pay 2x, 5x, 10c or more just for the opportunity to - at some point in the future if she is bored - be in the same room (no - I mean same ZIP code) as her pussy.
The more they come face to face with the reality that most people can't tell the difference between one pussy and another in a dark room, the more they demand an even higher allowance than the last time. It's a self-defeating strategy, of course. But a GPS woman rarely understands that she is her own biggest enemy.
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The Cat
Ahhhh.... now I understand sympathyforthedevil's comment about +30 yo SB's having higher incidence of GPS syndrome. My first month in the bowl and its amazing to me that the "asks" from 30-40 yo SB's as a group have been consistently higher than the 20 somethings, which objectively makes ZERO sense. There are things like wine and bourbon that usually gets better with age but pussy is generally not one of them. I guess that's one way to distinguish the pro's from the civies...... proper pricing for value offered.
I agree, it seems to be prevalent, but it makes no sense. I currently have one very attractive SB in her 30s who I've dated BCD twice. She's very nice, but not spectacular. And yet she demands 50% more $ than my younger, prettier SBs. I'm actively looking to replace her with an update to my rotation and have several irons in the fire. Whoever becomes my next SB will need to be younger, prettier, and more reasonable about allowances. I realize that might sound crass coming from an older guy like me. But sugar dating is about more than just getting laid. It's about fantasy fulfillment and variety, so I see no reason not to seek exactly what I like the best.
I am in NYC where you can get most 20 somethings for 300-400. I bid 250 on this 41yo who looked like she was in good shape from her prof just to get some practice on my negotiating, refine my process.
Her response was ...."hey, I am not stupid. I know what the other girls ask"
Me - "Anyone can ask for anything. Doesn't mean they'll get it"
It was all I could do not to send something mean along the lines of ... babe, you do realize you have a +40yo pussy, right?
That’s funny!!
Older chicks making high asks make sense from their psychological standpoint -- in that women refuse to "settle." In real life they marry up, not down. Each step up in life means they will never accept lower than that in the future. So if they could command a high price when younger, they will never lower themselves later in life.
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Of course some women are a bit more sensible and realize their market position, and maybe against their ego, they accept the new reality in order to earn some bucks.
I think a huge number lately have been Bots. As someone said they will block you as soon as they think you're about to out them. Has Ashley Madison purchased seeking or something? I say this in jest but it feels like it
So what are some telltale signs that I am dealing w/ a bot?
I posted about this before and I can confirm it again. The main giveaway is the username made up of two real words stuck together with thefirst and second word capitalized. They're clearly computer-generated. Once you go into the profile you will notice a whole bunch of pictures but none of them will give away the location such as background or style of building. Or you may be able to recognize that they are definitely not in your area
If you decide to start chatting you will get one word answers or very short ones and sometimes they are nonsensical in relation to your previous comments. The best way to out them is to refer to a local place or ask them what part of town they are in and their answer will usually give it away. Just as an example you could ask what part of l.a. are you in and the answer would be something like near Dodger Stadium.
They will pick a location out of Google Maps which you may know is an industrial or business district. Things like that
If you keep the conversation going and engaged I think maybe eventually a human takes over because that's when the scammers kick in