The Erotic Highway

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ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 865 reads
posted
1 / 10

So I have a SB on my roster whom I enjoy spending time with.  However, she is now number 4 on the depth chart based on my likes/wants/desires and economics.  Consequently, I don't see her as often as in the past (when she was number 2 or 3).  

If she were to lower her ask 20%, then she could climb back up the roster.  

Has anyone successfully negotiated with an established SB to lower an established PPM rate?  If so, would appreciate advice on how to structure that conversation.  She's texted that we don't see each other as much as we have in the past and mentioned how much she misses our time together.

sweetman 93 Reviews 97 reads
posted
2 / 10

I have not had any success negotiating an existing arrangement amount downwards.  But I have faced the same dilemma as yours. Before the pandemic I was dating a little asian girl who was talkative, just a bit chubby, but always DTF.  She asked for 50% more than my normal amount and since I was very much in the mood for some new fresh pussy I said 0k, but just this time.  After that I gave her a bit less, but still more than my normal amount.  As time went by I got sorta bored with her and saw her less and less.  Then the pandemic hit and I quit nearly all my sugar activities..  She's been texting me and staying in touch all throughout this period, hoping we can get back together when it's safe. I plan on telling her that the lockdown was a hardship and I can only afford to give her my standard amount.  If she says yes I'll continue to see her, at least a few more times.  If not, no worries, I'll move on. Good luck with your negotiating and let us know how it goes.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 115 reads
posted
3 / 10

... but that doesn't mean you can't try.  

 
First, be fully prepared to lose her permanently from your rotation.  Never forget that she's with you for cash - no matter what else you do together or what she says she likes about you. So you're only levers here to reduce your total spend on her are to either reduce her allowance (including your additional costs), or to increase the time between dates.  

 
Next, remember that the most successful negotiation strategies for SD's center around YOUR available budget (both funds budget and time budget) spend on her. It is NEVER about "her worth."  She's "worth" a hell of a lot of money - just ask her! Telling her it's only worth (current amount less 20%) to fuck her will not end well. So start a discussion with her by saying that you really enjoy your time with her, blah, blah, blah, and you need to work through some budget issues that may impact your ability to keep meeting with her. Then just throw out some plausible reason (pay cut from work instead of layoffs, increased child support, extra travel needs for work, etc.). Just try to base your reason on some level of truth - lying will almost always blow up in your face, and not in a good way.  

 
Then lay out two to three options for her to choose, like less ppm, less frequent meetings, cut out dinners & shopping, etc. None of the options has to be very good, but letting her choose one gives her the feeling she is controlling her life, not you.  Of course, she may just call on you on your bullshit and dump you forthwith for an SD with a much bigger - er - wallet. Or she can reject all the options and throw it back to you. In that case, you need to either back off (and forever be her little bitch), or be prepared to end it (and be the manly man with blue balls that you know you are destined to be). "Well, I'm sorry we couldn't work this out. I really enjoyed our times together and I wish you well in your next adventures. I'll always be here if you want to reconnect"  

 
Let us know how it goes, please. We all need to share so we can learn together.  

 

Life is good

 
The Cat

GaGambler 121 reads
posted
4 / 10

Keep in mind she is reaching out to him, not the other way around. It's MUCH easier in a negotiation of this kind when you are "reacting" to her rather than initiating the conversation.  

 
The best way to approach any negotiation of this sort is to frame it in a way it at least "appears" it's a way for her to make more money, not less. Unless of course you really just want her to go away, but that doesn't seem to be the case here as the OP stated he'd still like to see her, but at a rate 20% less than he is paying today. I don't think he said anything about "total spend" just that he is not enamored with her enough to keep paying the current rate

 
My suggestion is basically the same as yours (big surprise), claim poverty, reduced income, lower budget or anything along those lines. Offer to keep seeing her at the rate he feels comfortable, BUT if it were me, I would hang out the "possibility" of an increased frequency of visits so she can see it leading to MORE money, not less.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 57 reads
posted
5 / 10

That's why we have this board. You ask a question, you get some ideas.

 
Now it's up to you to internalize this feedback into your own action plan and let us know the result.  

 
Just remember, all arrangements end. And new opportunities are appearing all the time. You may find that occasionally allowing a B-lister to fade away just makes room for a new A-lister to appear.  Personally, I'd much rather bang 10 chicks twice than bang 2 chicks 10 times, unless they are super hot and total freaks in bed, lol.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 77 reads
posted
6 / 10

So the plot thickens.  She reaches out yesterday requesting that I CashApp our normal PPM in advance of our next meeting.  Of course I will never break SB Rule #1 (do not give money before services rendered...ever!).  Sob story of being furloughed and needing to pay rent.

I am taking a page out of GaGa's book and having her calculate a monthly "ask".  Will then break it down into a visit frequency that will effectively lower our PPM rate.  She is great in bed, has a banging body and typically available on short notice...and yet she's #4 on the depth chart because she's a little socially awkward and we don't connect mentally.  

It will be a "take it or leave it offer".  I have a few POT's that I would like to give a tryout for a roster spot.  Will report back!

GaGambler 96 reads
posted
7 / 10

And especially where it comes to sex, the person who cares the LEAST is the person with the decided advantage.

 
She has been reaching out to you, she obviously needs the money. You don't really care that much if you ever see here again although you "enjoy" fucking her, as an objective observer YOU most definitely have the upper hand here.

 
I have one further suggestion, please modify it to fit your own circumstances. Let's say your usual PPM amount is $400, and that is what she is asking you to CashApp to her, I would suggest that you "offer" to see her twice this/next week for $300 each time netting her $600 rather than $400, and then of course feel free to "get busy" on her if you really aren't feeling like seeing her for that second session that week. SB's pull the same exact kind of bullshit all the time, I wouldn't feel guilty in the least if I had to/wanted to cancel the next session.

refinedtwist925 82 reads
posted
8 / 10

I’ve never had any success negotiating down and that’s mainly because I’ve never tried. What I’ve typically found is that when I’m feeling that her current ppm isn’t worth it, what I’m really telling myself is that it’s time to remove from the active rotation and move on. At 1 point in the lifecycle, you felt that the amount was well worth it. If your no longer there, it’s probably more a testament to the connection itself vs the amount being charged. Simply lowering that amount probably doesn’t inherently address the core problem.

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 108 reads
posted
9 / 10

So after a few days of careful thought about how I feel about this particular SB, my time bandwidth, current roster, POT's in the cue, decided that if I lost this SB, no big deal.  

I offered her 80% usual PPM but would double the visits per month AND we should consider meeting at her place as the hotels where we typically meet add about $100-125 per visit.  As I only see her about once a month, not a stretch for me to double the visits.  She accepted (almost) immediately but counters with can I give her the hotel savings in addition to new PPM.  My response, was we meet at hotels convenient to me as she lives about 20 miles away and if the cost is the same, rather meet at hotels near my office.  She agrees.  

So, I will see her for less PPM and no hotel costs this evening.  Downside is not expecting much of her apartment and hope she truly does live alone.

Thanks everyone for the great advice.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 70 reads
posted
10 / 10

Sounds like you found a balance that will keep both of you happy.  

 
Now put it out of your mind and enjoy your slippery times with her.  

 
Just be careful not to think about the cash during the BCD time.  You don't want to be looking at the top of her head and thinking that she's only sucking 80% as well as last time... :p  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

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