Once she comes in at a high rate, anything substantially lower is going to be seen as an insult. So even if for some reason she was to price down, she'd be coming in with an attitude that you insulted her. So not really a good place to be. . I would pretty much walk away and not try to negotiate. Generally unless we are within $100 and split the difference, it doesn't usually work out. I had one exception to this, but by the second proposed date she reverted to her higher demand at the last minute, so that was the end of that.
Got a DM from a SB. Very average body. Kinda weird face lacking a chin. Not my favorite look. I honestly wouldn't pay her $300. In her opening DM she asked if $1500 per meet would work? I was tempted to tell her what I really thought but simply said no.
I think in cases where there is low sexual value quotient [SVQ] but her ask is high, she is counting on you to counter down to her actual expected PPM. Either that or she's inexperienced and has no clue what the averages are for her area. Another factor is misinformation from places like Tik-Tok and Instagram, where SB influencers give false information on how to 'Bag a Sugar Daddy' and find simps to to rinse. Either way, you were right to next her. Average PPM's are in the mid XXX range. Four figures are reserved for 10's/Supermodels, and in my view real consistant SD's that will pay XXXX are rare.
Just to the math. What % of men have the finances to have the money to pay these ladies. They think they'll find a guy that will give them a luxurious lifestyle. The whales that can do that sure as hell aren't on a sire like this. Lol
Once she comes in at a high rate, anything substantially lower is going to be seen as an insult. So even if for some reason she was to price down, she'd be coming in with an attitude that you insulted her. So not really a good place to be. . I would pretty much walk away and not try to negotiate. Generally unless we are within $100 and split the difference, it doesn't usually work out. I had one exception to this, but by the second proposed date she reverted to her higher demand at the last minute, so that was the end of that.
I agree with you, lester_prarie, and it's one of Herbcat's main advisories is to never bargain down unless you can value add. I've had success with meeting in the middle but it's usually no more than 100 off her quoted ppm. I'll usually approach it as "my last arrangement was XXX," and often she'll say '"that's fine for me," or she'll say "mine was _____" and if it's within a Benjamin or two, not far off, we can usually compromise and do a M&G anyway and see where it leads. Sometimes ppm differences can be worked out if you meet in person and you present as being clean, nice, in decent shape, and she likes you. You can also value add. [See Herbcat's previous post on this] But if it's too far off, best to thank her and move on. She has expectations on her worth and if she's all business, no point in insulting her.
Way back in 2014 when I was just a newbie in the Bowl, I was planning a trip to LA and looking for some pussy to enjoy while I was there. I found a duo on SA. 2 lovely AA girls dating together. I contacted them and they asked for $1500, i.e. $750 apiece. I offered them $500 total, which was $250 apiece. One third their ask! They said yes, showed up as planned and we had a fine old time. Only now with 10 years of sugar dating behind me do I realize how unusual a situation that was!
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