This is unrelated to my other recent thread...  

After sorting through the fakes and flakes, I get a girl to meet me... she's super young, has never met anyone from SA before and is clearly nervous, very hot though.  We seemed to get along but she did the old "I'm tired, I have to get up early" at 830pm ... like a guy twice her age hasn't seen that, we agree that she'll text me tomorrow about meeting this weekend, and when I get home she's blocked me on the site. Lol...   I mean I could tell she wasn't sure she wanted to do this at all, I'm not shocked but she wasn't very honest about it which is probably typical for a 21 year old girl.  But it all seemed fine to me.

How often do you read your first meeting wrong

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Send her a nice and supportive text and she may come around at some point and reach back out to you. Some girls just need a little time to wrap their heads around the P4P aspect of it. But then they see their friends doing it and figure WTF why not. I try to play the long game with these girls and you'd be surprised at who will pop their heads back up when you least expect it.

I haven't gotten the first meeting "wrong" too often, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. You aren't going to "click" with everyone you meet on the site.

I will give you the same advice I give to salesmen after NOT closing a deal. The natural response is to blame the customer, or in this case the POT SB, and that is not the way to get better at what you are doing. My advice is to relive the date in your mind and try to pick out the point where you think you lost her., there is no need to "bare your soul" to us, but you need to be honest with yourself to get better at anything you do including "scoring with SBs" lol

It is possible that she was simply very nervous and couldn't bring herself to go through with it, but she did agree to meet you, so at one point she was at least considering "going through with it" There is always some point in a date where you either zig or you zag, and that determines the overall tone of the date. My guess is that either you just didn't "click" in which case there is most likely nothing you could have done differently, OR there was a point in the date where she wanted reassurance and needed to "feel good" about what she was contemplating and you simply didn't give her what she needed to want to continue.

Don't feel bad, not all 21 year olds want to be fucking a guy twice her age. At 57 I am TRIPLE the age of some of these girls I am POSITIVE there are a lot of girls who aren't getting back to me due to my age, but there are more than enough who do.  

My final piece of advice is to get right back on the whore, errr I mean horse , and try again. Don't let one failure get you down.

Oh back to your original question, I don't always have successful first meetings, but I usually know well before the date is over whether it's gone well or not. Maybe it's my sales backround, but I usually know exactly when and how I've blown a deal, whether it be pussy or business, and I when I don't know what I did wrong, I rack my brain trying to figure out what I could have done better. If you are COMLETELY honest with yourself, you can almost always figure out where and when you lost her.

If she blocked you (as a knee jerk reaction) so you would not even be able to look her up again on the site (until such time when she unblocks you, or you create a new profile) I can tell with the utmost certainty that you were NOT her type and based on your account of her squirmy behavior during your meeting, she could not wait to get out of there fast enough! I do not know you or her for that matter but I have heard similar stories to this one when a SB told me some of them had done the exact same thing when the POT SD had grossly misrepresented himself (mostly in terms of physical appearances) or was simply a gross person. Pardon me if I sound judgemental but I am merely conveying what other women have told me in such extreme cases!

I have been quite blocked a few times but mostly after the SA communication which did not go anywhere (some women do get spooked very fast if you fail their "shit test"), but a few times I got blocked after I had opened a direct communication channel with a few POT SBs. I can pin point exactly as to why this happened after I had gone through the first initial gauntlets with them and that is because:

A- I needed further assurances about the veracity of their stated age (just like hookers, the ones on SA who claim to be low 30's could easily be fibbing by 5-10 years!).

B- Some even had dared to broach the subject of "monogamy"  during initial texts / phone convo (I usually do not like to talk to them on the phone at all till me meet) to which I always answered "that would be the goal with the right person after some trust has been build" but that is pretty much the inflection point of the communication when the seams came apart. Again, this sort of knee jerk reaction came from the stated 30+ POT SBs.

I don't pursue the 18-21 POT SB demographics so I do not have any solid experiences to inform you otherwise but by all accounts that can either be the very sweet spot of getting the best "bang" for the buck or to get flaked on or stood up. shrug!

One thing with newbies is that once you have them BCD reality sets in. I've met a few where I could tell they were too nervous to want to fuck grandpa and I  called it off. A couple got back in touch to try again and it was fine. But still not great fucks. One advantage of pros imo.

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A little (or a lot) of DATY usually works wonders.  

That's one advantage to "fucking grandpa" we usually know just how to properly DATY to get a nervous motor running. Keep in mind young guys are selfish and want to "get at it" as soon as possible, remember how you were at twenty? If you take your time and allow her to warm up to the idea of being pleasured by an older man, you would be surprised just how willing they become to hop back into the sack with you the next time.

Don't get me wrong, I love fucking pros, but there is just a certain something I get out of pleasuring a woman who I know has never or at least has rarely been fucked/eaten properly that I don't get from fucking pro's, where quite frankly it's all or at least mostly "all about me" lol

Ive had several ladies that had never experienced  DATY to an O. Their reaction when done was priceless. Their comments aftwr great for the ego. One even bragged about it to her BFF to the point thT her friend  wanted some. Unfortunately she was not my type.  

She were having a conversation about how as an "old guy" how good I was at eating her pussy and she commented that I had probably done it "thousands of times, so of course I would be good at it" and then she went on to say, "well not with thousands of women of course" to which I just smiled inwardly. I suppose practice does make perfect, and she had no idea that she had me nailed dead to rights as it's true, If you don' know how to eat a pussy after eating thousands of them, you simply are beyond teaching. lol

very on point today, boys, and game beyond belief

keep up the good work, my ATF bedtime reading, lol

One 21 yo old girl told me on our second bcd date that she couldn't have an orgasm with sex. She could only finish masturbating in the shower running water on herself. The next date, I'll never forget the time I got her to orgasm with daty. She said "I'm cumming". Then she threw her head back on the pillow and was just giddy laughing! Lol. Never had that reaction before.  It's very true that a lot of these girls look forwards to "proper mentoring"   I like to show them tricks that other ladies do to get happy. Both pros and non-pros.  I'm sure you guys can recount similar stories.

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Many have said their young lovers don't like it or don't do it right.  Since I love it I always go there first and am always rewarded by a very happy girl.

I'm thinking back to a couple of years worth of Sugar Dating and I can only remember one instance where a really delightful dinner date did not lead to anything more.  She never replied to any messages from me after that one dinner date.  I was really surprised and must have read that situation totally wrong.  But I could swear we had great chemistry and that she had a great time talking to me.  This was fairly early in my Sugar Dating career and it's never happened again. She's still active on SA so I guess she is still dating SDs.  Or maybe she just likes being taken out for dinners in fine restaurants!  Who knows?  Since every single other first meeting I've had with a POT SB who tickled my fancy has indeed led to intimacy BCD I don't worry too much about the one that got away.

... my track record with SBs has been very good. But recently, I set up lunch with a lovely young red-headed musician that went very well. We scheduled a second lunch date which ended in bed and with me demonstrating my DATY skills. Se had an amazing and thoroughgoing orgasm, she said the best she'd ever had... and several days of silence later informed me that although I was a great guy she had second thoughts and we could no longer see one another. Oh well.

You got played by a good actress which should not surprise you because some SBs are as masterful in playing their role in the same way as some of your more experienced hookers are.  

If you hook up with an SB who has been on the SA scene for more than a couple of years, assume that she's heard it all, seen it all and knows all the nooks and crannies of that place. Some of course claim that they do not sign onto the site that often, or they were in a relationship (sugar, civie or otherwise) which just ended, yada yada; but if you've been around SA yourself for a while, you will be able to recognize certain patterns of behavior which you definitely ought to avoid.  

However, if you paid and she delivered albeit once and done, then who cares? After all, it is supposed to be NSA!

Did you feel......used? Lol

Had a very nice "second date" (first was just M&G) with a POT SB. I sensed that things were not going right and about the end of dinner, she offered to go Dutch. [The cheapskate in me thought....SURE, Dammit!] But, the gentleman in me thought, it's not that much money, and she doesn't need to buy her way out.

I think she and I were just different politically--although, I have been with many ladies with whom I did not align.

No communication, after being told, "I'll be in touch, and hope you still want to see me next time you are in town."

Hmmm.....

Heading to the corral and looking over the livestock...