I've been exchanging messages with a new SB who is blonde, tall, slim, very lovely and tells me several times she's ok with anything I suggest. If she was local that's all I'd need to suggest meeting up. Problem is, she lives 300 miles away.   I went to google maps and discovered there's a town with some good cheap hotels exactly half way between me and her.  So I asked her if she'd consider driving there one afternoon, meeting me, having dinner and some fun one on one time at the hotel, spending the night and checking out and going our separate ways the next morning. Her reply was simply: "sounds good. Anything really".  The drive is on good primary/secondary roads with little traffic, so 2 1/5 hours is all it would take to get there.  

I've suggested to her that we move to text so we can discuss other important considerations.  I intend to ask her for a photo of her ID as well as her CDC card. She hasn't said a word about money as yet.  But I'm wondering, if she says yes to everything I suggest, including a reasonable allowance, is that in itself a red flag?  Have you ever driven that far to meet a potential hottie?  Would you? It's not as if I'm desperate to get laid. On the contrary, I've got 5 in my current rotation and can barely keep up with them all!  But a nice road trip with a happy ending does sound intriguing.

Personally I would not drive 300 miles to meet a potential SB. Especially if I had a pretty full rotation as you do.

 

My spidey senses would be vibrating as yours are. She's saying yes to everything.

 

But sometimes a girl who seems almost too good to be true, turns out to be true. She may be that girl. What kind of question would elicit a response that confirms she's real?

 

If she's willing to drive and meet halfway, then she really wants to meet you. Why would she do that if she can meet nearby dudes? I'd ask a question that requires some detail to answer. You want her to work harder to answer the question than a scammer or serial flake would work before dropping you and going to the next mark.  

 

Maybe she's a scammer or thief. Maybe she's brand new. Maybe she's naiive. Maybe she's fat and ugly and insecure. Maybe she likes playing text games and will flake at date time. In the end, you want to know why she's willing to meet at some considerable effort. Maybe a voice call will clarify things.

I would set it up, but I wouldn’t reserve the hotel room until she shows up.  I have gone is 150 miles  (all freeway) to meet a 18 year old SB who lived 300 miles away in a college town and agreed to meet me halfway. After she showed up, I got a room in a hotel next to the freeway. It was a great change from my rotation and worked out well until the end of the school year when she moved on.  

there is a major university city about 1.5 hours from me that I have, on occasion,  asked a girl to drive down for a visit.  I've offered to put them up in a nice, but modest hotel nearby.  But with gas money and the like, it's going to add $200 to the visit.  So my question is: do I propose a generous PPM/allowance but then deduct the overhead expenses from it?  

Similar to your situation, I wouldn't mind driving down for a nice dinner and spending the night at a more upscale place.  But 2+ hours makes it a real pain, so I might pass unless the locale had some attraction and not just some cheap freeway hotel.

I'm closing in on 5 in my rotation too, but a couple are more distant affairs, so it's possible to keep up (barely!).  And we all have said before, gotta keep a few on deck in case any of them drop out or trade up!

Let me put it this way.. I hate driving more than I hate talking on the phone.. I bought a brand new car in 2010. Still have it and only has 80K on it.  

 
I would never ever drive that much even if Jennifer Garner (whom I absolutely adore) is willing to suck my cock..

 
The max I do is 50 miles..  My sweet spot is when they come to me.. But with those who have no car, you can pick them up bring them back, and get to fuck them 2-3 times for measly $300-400.

Pre-pandemic I drove to Vegas where I met 2 SB's over 2 consecutive nights, then moved to Laughlin for a third night with a 3rd SB.  The Vegas encounters both turned out to be stimulating dates, but not to the extent of my wishing to see either gal again.  After food and drinks and getting to know a bit about each other, I struck out in Laughlin when she suddenly bolted from the room saying "I can't do this".  Oddly, this was the one I was most interested in and attracted to of the 3.  I haven't felt the urge to tackle a SB road trip since.  Total outlay for this road trip adventure was under a grand...restaurants/bar tabs/rooms/SB gifts/gas.  

Let's start by saying answers to your question will differ based on local geography and the local SB population for each of us.  

 
For me, I have stopped agreeing to travel for a 1st time meet more than 25 miles. I have all kinds of stories from my time living in San Jose and travelling to San Francisco, Modesto, or Oakland for M&G's. And still more from my time in the San Fernando Valley travelling to Downtown LA, South LA, Pasadena and Thousand Oaks.  The net-net from all those was a 95% failure to get to BCD. Note that on rare occasions, I have agreed to cover Uber costs after (i.e.: if) she arrives. One was coming from Rowland Heights - which is 60 miles and a 90 minute drive from my home. She messaged me 1st on SA, was willing to pay her own Uber, and only wanted $2.5 in allowance. Plus she had fresh test results and hated condoms. Seems too good to be true? Well, she delivered on everything she promised. But her looks "face to face" (or ass to face were somewhat less than I was hoping for. Maybe a 6.5. It only lasted 3 or 4 sessions.  

 
Caveat: In my area, there are plenty of legit SB's who live within 30 miles, and are happy to travel to me for BCD dates. At any given time, even in down cycles, there are at least 2,500 profiles that fit my specs. When I contemplate a M&G with a POT who is more than a 15 minute drive, I ask her to meet me somewhere half way between us.  

 
But in your location, PaPa Sweet, I can understand the need to deal with greater distances.  My advice is similar to those above; you decide how much TIME and CASH you are willing to invest in a M&G. Then avoid committing the cash until the last possible moment - and presumably only if you have some indicator/confirmation she will show up.  

 
Also, I'm surprised by your comment about moving to text. From the "tone" of your conversation with her, I thought you were already messaging offsite.  

 
And finally, to directly answer your question; the longest I ever travelled only for a M&G, was 90 miles - San Jose to Modesto (note to all: NEVER travel to Modesto! Just don't! You have been warned!). And as you might imagine, she was an 18 year old, Latina hottie, with real life strict father issues - AND she had a friend who wanted to "experiment." The end result: Nada, plus I lost $400 in wasted hotel costs, gas, and Starbucks drinks for her that ended up in the trash.  

 
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The Cat

I agree with your ideas completely.  I'm def going to ask her why she's interested in traveling to meet rather than dating locally.  And I'm def going to ask her to text me a photo her ID in advance. "twill be interesting to see how it develops!

Good advice, but I will most likely reserve a room in advance.  Assuming I think she's going to actually show up!  But if she turns out to be a no show, it will be late afternoon/early evening by then, and I'll probably want to spend the night anyway just to get some sleep before driving home.

I respect your opinion.  But I love driving! Especially on a motorcycle but even in my car or RV, I do some of my best thinking behind the wheel.  So the 150 mile drive I'm contemplating is an added incentive for me, not a deterrent.

As always, I appreciate your comments Herb.  I was actually thinking about you when I wrote the op.  That's why I made sure to note that is was an easy 150 mile drive.  I've driven enough in the LA area to know what a freaking pita it can be.  One time I drove from MDR to Glendale to see a very hot pro.  The drive over took an hour and a half.  The drive back, just 20 minutes.  It's all about the traffic.

We've compared notes on numbers before but it bears repeating.  2500 profiles near you is fantastic, and absolutely no reason for you to travel outside your local area.  I get 1250 profile hits but have to extend my search radius to 100 miles to get them!  

And thanks for the tip about Modesto.   Guess I'll see if I can get my deposit back on the condo, l;ol.

Deposit? Yikes! It may already be too late! :p  

On the bright side, I know where the (arguably) best Modesto Starbucks is.  

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The Cat

JG? Meh. I recently saw her doing credit card commercials. Years ago, I saw some late night reruns of her starring as a girl spy in a TV show. I thought her acting was average to poor and she was just not credible. Her performance of climbing and other physically demanding stunts was absurd. I don't think she can do one half of one pull up with her skinny little toothpick arms. (I googled it: She did most of her own stunts but using wires and other gimmicks.)  
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But I would happily let her suck my cock and not complain about her weak grip because I prefer no-hands BBBJ anyway.

I'm not following everything, but please be careful that she or "they" aren't luring you into a trap. A photo, photo of her ID seem like good precautions to take ... unless they're FAKE! Make sure you meet up in a public place with lots of regular people around and that she matches the photo.  
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I like reading about sweetman and his adventures here on TER. I don't want to learn about sweetman in an episode of Dateline. "What really happened that dreary day in that Modesto condo ...?"

I just drove from Minneapolis to NYC for family reasons, then drove to Boston to meet a pro who I've seen before.  Then drove about 28 hours back to Minneapolis, sleeping just 4 hours in the car at a rest stop.
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The only problem I would have with driving a long distance to meet a SB is the time involved.  I wouldn't book a hotel in advance and if things didn't turn out, I wouldn't book a hotel just to rest before returning. I can sleep in the car if needed.  So out gasoline money and the time investment is the worst that would happen.

I live in the DC area. There are plenty of SB's here so I usually don't drive out of town to meet one. The farthest I ever drove to see an SB was Baltimore which is about 50 miles from my place (she didn't have a car). She was 18, just got out of high school, and very cute, but the sex was kind of lackadaisical (typical of young SB's) so I only met her once. If the sex was good, I would probably be willing to drive to see her regularly.  I was a newbie and very gung ho at the time. Now I would definitely not drive that far. There are just too many flakey SB's who will no-show.

One advantage of living in a big city is not only there are many SB's, but also the out-of-town SB's are willing to drive to meet you. They can shop and do some sightseeing so even if the SD no-shows, it is not a totally wasted trip. That's why several SB's were willing to drive from Baltimore, Richmond, and other small cities to meet me.

It gives out of town girls an excuse to come into the city.

I don't recommend that. It will look like you are "charging" her for the room and gas, which may make you look cheap, or she may think it's "unfair" for her to pay for a hotel fuck room.  Remember that from most SB's point of view, the only money she cares about, or is even aware of, is the cash you put in her hand.  You could take her to the French Laundry in Napa for a $800 dinner (seriously, that place is hella expensive!), and when you give her $250 allowance she will wonder why you think she's not "worth" the $400 she's used to getting. She will be unable to conceive of the idea that you just spent over a grand on her. The money you spend on everything other than her allowance is simply not visible to her, and won't impress her.

 
And just to extend that SB logic, the moment you put  that cash in her hand, she will forget it as well and will start counting the cash she will get on your next date.  "When can I see you again, Daddy?" translates to:  "I'd fuck you again right now if I could get more cash."  

 
So rather than showing her the reductive math, just make your offer where your comfort level is, then  talk up the cool experiences and "perks" she gets by dating such a wonderful and high-class Daddy.  

 
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The Cat

So I'm 99% certain this girl is a scammer of some sort.  I sent her a fairly long msg asking why a pretty girl like her would want to travel to meet a man when there's obviously gonna be lots of locals eager to meet you.  I also said that I wanted a thoughtful reply that gave me some meaningful insight into her thought process and provided some insights into her personality.  Her reply: "Thanks, sounds good."  I imagine a bunch of mean college girls in their dorm room cooking up a bet to see who can get a guy to keep replying to nonsense the longest. So I'm done playing her game, although it was fun thinking about the possibility for a couple of days.  

Does challenging a babe work?  I try to avoid any hint of distrust or negativity.  I think the only thing I've done is inform the young ones that I'd need to see some age verifying ID.  Even then I didn't like to bring it up, but since is can be so fatal I felt it overcame the downside.

I agree that challenging a SB is probably always counter productive. In this case  I felt I had nothing to lose, so was giving her one last chance to demonstrate she was real and serious. Which she did not do, thereby saving myself from any further waste of time and energy and aggravation. And I always ask to exchange IDs, if there's even a possibility she is younger than she looks!