I generally book two or three hours and frankly more often than not I don't get one, two is out of the question. Doesn't mean I didn't have a great time, It's just how I'm wired.
While I have seen dissapointment in some of the ladies eyes, I just explain it that way and reassure them that I'm very happy with the experience even without the finale.
I still feel a bit bad when the gal seems disappointed that she couldn't ring the bell a second time. I try to tell them that it is more of a rarity than standard, for me at least, and that I just enjoy the ATTEMPT and that extra attention.
Some seem to take it as a challenge unmet and it can be a bit of a downer. I try to expain that for me I'd rather have fun getting head and doing 69 for a 2nd cup than actually popping from a HJ, for instance. So I'd rather the session end without a pop than a "forced one" with an act I don't care for from a provider - I just typically do not like HJs.
Many tell me that a lot of guys can't go that second time in the hour or even two. Some even say that a fair number can't go once even - which I'm lucky enough to say has never happened so far tho I've been close to the 55 min mark on a "60&out" provider more than once. LOL
But a few seem to get very down as if they failed in some way. I guess I should see it as a good thing that they so wanted to please me they are down on themselves, but it is a tad annoying to have to console THEM and re-assure THEM that it was not an unsatisfying session at all!
I generally book two or three hours and frankly more often than not I don't get one, two is out of the question. Doesn't mean I didn't have a great time, It's just how I'm wired.
While I have seen dissapointment in some of the ladies eyes, I just explain it that way and reassure them that I'm very happy with the experience even without the finale.
Only if it's important to the client, buckeye-kev,
Please remember that the most successful providers are not only dynamite in the sack, they are also sharp observers and aim to please 100%. Hence, if it seems important to the client, or if taking a demonstrative interest in the 2nd cup shows dedication on the part of the provider, she could insert some theatrical display of prowess in the draining department. And, if "a few seem to get very down as if they failed in some way," you'll be able to dispel the clouds with a tiny tip for extra effort. Guaranteed that the sun'll come out in two seconds flat.
It's all part of human nature,
the Love Goddess
No offense, and I know it may be true with some providers, but the idea that tipping her will make her smile and forget her disappointment seems so inappropriatly cynical. That is stripper rip-off mentality, IMO, not GFE good provider attitude.
Throwing $ at her is so typical of "not getting it", IMO. i would hope that if she cares about pleasing her clients enough to be disappointed that she couldn't fulfill their "expected desires" she wouldn't be salved/sated by a tip.
I'd hope that repeat bookings would be an indication that it was not a negative for the client/hobbyist.
Dear buck-eye kev,
Repeat business is always good, but "throwing $ at her" is clearly not what I recommended. I suggested a tip at the END of the activity, for good work...particularly for an extended effort in terms of getting "that second cup."
Tipping is a very nice gesture. It would be the same in a restaurant, or any place of service - even if the service charge is included; if you feel you have enjoyed something beyond the call of duty, please go ahead and show it. Even $20 for lunch is very kind and sweet.
As for the downer...well, you are paying for sex in the first place, so...
There's cynicism in everything, if one chooses to see it,
the Love Goddess
the Love
I always book two hours and that's just enough time for chatting, cuddling, one very long and amazing pop for me (hopefully two or three for her) and some time to unwind. I've had ladies try to coax a second cup out of me....and I'm more than happy that they tried...it never happens but I've never seen a lady disappointed by the exhausted but happy smile on my face...
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I've got good news for you: They don't care about the first cup, either. They care about the envelope.
I don't get off even once, let alone twice. I usually try to explain this to a new provider, most of them realize that I enjoy the session itself, not the climax.
As with you though, I can occasionally read the disappointment in their eyes. Especially if I didn't get off at all. I'll explain again how nice of a time I had, how I enjoyed the intimate closeness, etc., and reiterate the fact that I'm not here for just the big 'O', but for the whole experience. I find they usually understand, and sometimes will ask some rather deep questions as to just how I think. To me, that 'melding of the minds' part can be every bit as exciting as the physical part.
I've noticed this as well, but have found that if I mention during the first round that we need to go slow because I am only good for one pop, they usually understand and make sure the first one is good and just cuddle up after that. A ouple of ladies have tried to go for it anyway, but with me, there's no chance and they do seem disappointed.
I also agree though that the climax isn't what the appointment is about. I can get that for free by myself. The appointment is to enjoy running my hands over a beautiful young lady's body and sharing an intimate moment with her. It's about looking in her eyes and just enjoying her company. I always try to take my time getting to my one pop, because it's the buildup, not the finish that makes it great.
I've always felt that one good Vesuvius Pop was fine. If I recover for a 2nd that's great but never feels the same as the first. And once it becomes "work" then the fun and fantasy dissolve.
At least half of my session time is spent "getting to know" the lady. Exploring every inch. For two or three hours I am making love, not just having sex.
It's not an opportunity to try as many different positions as possible, use the Love Swing or trampoline.
To be truthful, most often my second wind came while I was "cooling down" my partner. Something psychological about hearing her get turned back on....turned me back on.
My biggest problem is getting off in the cover. Just can't seem to do it. Still waiting for the provider to make it happen. But if it does not, I am still gonna keep hobbying, because I have met some real nice ladies, and always get the one pop I am there for.
Some day it will happen. I'll let you know.
Swim
That's why I only do BBBJTC. It's the only way for me to cum.
It seems like most reviews I read are from guys braggin about their 3rd in the hour or how they fucked for 50 minutes. I just can't relate!
I often do 2 hours and am very satisfied talking, caressing, massaging, kissing etc. for most of the 2nd hour. I do expect a try at a 2nd, if I feel like it, but since I know it can sometimes be very tuff to finish I don't sweat it. It's just that a few providers seem to take it personally if u try for a 2nd and don't complete. It's as if they'd rather not have tried at all - but that part is selfish for me in that I want to try even if to know it is there whenever I want it. I also remind them that it makes for great fantasy fare between appts to reminisce about that extra fun. I almost always end up finishing myself off a couple hours later thinking about the 2nd try and reminiscing. I'd rather do that and have had it be great than have the provider give me a quick HJ to finish like it is some chore.
JMHO
Are HJs always seen as a cop-out or a chore?? I understand you can do them yourself, and that oral and intercourse are the "main courses" of a session w/ a provider, but I think the HJ is really erotic, worked in as part of the whole experience. I like giving them, and for some reason I'm also really turned on by watching a guy stroke himself, although I realize that that is not likely to be part of most paid sessions.. Would you guys really rather have some oral or whatever and not get a second pop, than get some oral and be finished by hand? Not that I'm bothered by lack of a second cup- indeed, it is just not possible for many of my clients and I am not bothered by that, but at the same time I always kind of feel like if there is a chance of getting him off I should go for it.. like if I get you turned on and then leave you hanging it will be uncomfortable or frustrating for you? Any input on the HJ or the attitude towards the second pop?
XoXo,
Marea
Nice post BTW. For me it goes back to 2 things.
One is that I get plenty of hand action at home - as u mentioned - self service. When I am with a woman, I typically don't care for what I can get at home. Also many don't do a very good job - too rough and fast and in a hurry. There is a porn actress online that has good technique - she could give me one anytime Wifey's World is her site but she only works with her hubby.
Second, it just reminds me too much of all the times in Vegas, mostly, I paid top $ for F/S and had the provider jumping all over HJ to try to get their 1 cup done and run out. It didn't ever "work", but was so frustrating to deal with/fight and argue about so often.
So yes, for me I'd rather not finish (2nd cup) than be jacked off, in most cases at least. Now that isn't to say a little stroking or attention at various points in a session isn't great. Also, if I can tell it isn't a "hurry up" move then I like it a little - but not as much as most other acts. I'd say I've run across maybe 2 providers who knew how to do it to my liking. Since I'm no fan, I don't feel like going thru lessons for the others! It would be a waste of time IMO anyway.
I may well be in the minority, but yes I'd rather not finish than to have a lube and jerk finish - what most try to GOTO. I prefer great feeling, "lovingly delivered" BBBJ or 69 or more intercourse, so we both have some more pleasure.
But I would add that I am talking 2nd cup. If it comes down to it I admit I might well opt for the release on 1st try over none. So it is a tad different. But I'm lucky to say I've never not finished the 1st cup and TYPICALLY want and get internal combustion inside condom in kitty or CIM - the two ways I much prefer. I find the idea of jerking off in front of a woman a turn-off. I can't remember a situation where watching a girl masturbate was a turn-on either - tho using some toys is. I guess it is just not my thing - I know others love it.
JMO
for what ever reason, and usually it is the sensitivity issue with the condom, I love to masturbate my finish together. I usually love to lay close together and have wonderful lfk and dfk as we stroke to a climax. We take turns stroking. Many have expressed, like you, that they love to see a guy jerk off- I thought maybe they were just being polite. many also seem to like the cum to go on their tits or the pearl necklace.
I have sent you a PM about a visit to Madison. Thank you for your HJ input.