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The Erotic Highway

I didn’t want to hijack last thread: I’m more than thinking of it I’m one hour from kickoff ...
AnotherDonJohn 1694 reads
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And my strategy is not set.  

So I’ve got three mid 20s POT SBs set up for the first meet.  

First one seems like she’s completely new but I’ve checked out that her body is good from a free drive-by look and hug  

My problem is the second one. She’s said several times that the  first meet will only be a meet and greet over dinner without cups but then I’m supposed to hand over a gift anyway, with the promise that future meets will involve cups.  

What do veterans think of this? It’s been a decade since my last SB ... has this become a new standard of prepayment?! Somehow I doubt it and i’m inclined to lay down the law immediately knowing it could be a game ender.

herbtcat97 reads

This question has been addressed many times.  

 
Generally, don't pay full, or any,  allowance for less than a "full" date.  IF you decide she's worth investing time to ease her nerves or build a bit of trust, then make a judgement call on how much, if anything, you should offer for what is basically an extended meet & greet. In the past, I've agreed to provide $40 to $80 for "just dinner" only after explaining that full allowance will be available only when she feels comfortable with a full date, and that I expect her to have enough information about me and build enough trust in me to make the commitment within 1 to 3 dinner dates.  Phrase your minimal offer in terms of "covering her out of pocket expenses" for the evening (Uber, gas, parking, etc.) and let her know you'll be ready to provide full allowance when she's comfortable.  

 
That's worked about 75% of the time with newbie SB's who might get skittish and bail if I pressed too hard and too fast (no pun intended).   The other 25% either ghosted me, or I told them (politely) it was time to step up or step away -  their reply was the sound of foot steps fading into the distance, coupled with the sound of 300-400 in cash being folded and shoved back into my pocket.  

 
So go have some nice dinners at moderately placed eateries. Then drop her off and go spend the rest of your cash going balls deep on SB #1.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

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AnotherDonJohn82 reads

Thanks HC!

I did spend time searching here and on Google. In Google the posts are more abt SB etiquette toward POT SDs. Here, people danced around the issue and were not as clear as u just were! So thanks again, u the Man.  

Between u and another veteran advising me here i call the King of SDs ( a friend and mentor from local afar - he knows who he is), I think I’m ready to dive back into the Hunt. I asked him offline abt pricing the market. Funny how both your answers make logical sense In Retrospect but I appreciate they were clearly honed through trial and error.  

SB #1 is great fun so far!:) I forgot how different it is from pros ... much more thrilling because of the art of the pursuit and conquest.

Posted By: herbtcat
Re: Search for old posts please.  
This question has been addressed many times.  
   
   
 Generally, don't pay full, or any,  allowance for less than a "full" date.  IF you decide she's worth investing time to ease her nerves or build a bit of trust, then make a judgement call on how much, if anything, you should offer for what is basically an extended meet & greet. In the past, I've agreed to provide $40 to $80 for "just dinner" only after explaining that full allowance will be available only when she feels comfortable with a full date, and that I expect her to have enough information about me and build enough trust in me to make the commitment within 1 to 3 dinner dates.  Phrase your minimal offer in terms of "covering her out of pocket expenses" for the evening (Uber, gas, parking, etc.) and let her know you'll be ready to provide full allowance when she's comfortable.  
   
   
 That's worked about 75% of the time with newbie SB's who might get skittish and bail if I pressed too hard and too fast (no pun intended).   The other 25% either ghosted me, or I told them (politely) it was time to step up or step away -  their reply was the sound of foot steps fading into the distance, coupled with the sound of 300-400 in cash being folded and shoved back into my pocket.  
   
   
 So go have some nice dinners at moderately placed eateries. Then drop her off and go spend the rest of your cash going balls deep on SB #1.  
   
   
 Life is good  
   
   
 The Cat

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lester_prairie105 reads

The probability is that if you hand a chick cash for non-sex, you will never see her again.  She is most likely a "professional" dater.  Some are happy just to scam free meals.  But some are a bit more aggressive.

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herbtcat85 reads

I think the probability is relevant to the amount you give her and the circumstances around why you are paying.

 
Certainly a small amount like $40 or $50 isn't enough to get a professional dater to even show up. These types will push to get at least $100-$200+ per dinner-only date and should obviously be declined.  So context matters, along with your own Spidey senses about the POT.  

 
But beware the POT's who tries to turn the tables by investing her time and faux attention on you in order to develop trust, then try to hit you up for some emergency or crisis that requires $500-$1,000 RIGHT NOW. If you agree to that, you won't see her again... and conveniently , if you don't agree to that, you won't see her again either.    

But you can, and should, test her sincerity by telling her she can have some or all of that cash if she comes over to see you 1st. Just let her know you will hand her an envelope once she's wiped off her chin.  This is an official, Gaga-approved technique and I completely endorse it as well.  (Correction:  GaGa won't bother with the envelope. :p  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

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AnotherDonJohn69 reads

So now I’ve encountered the $200 dinner only scammers (Babygirlash001 on SA and Alr SB in southeast Texas in Austin and Houston) — I didn’t pay but I only told her that in the 11th hour b4 the m&g was to happen— and the $50 scammer (Beautifulrenee ###)

The latter scam goes like this. Incoming message to my SA mailbox telling me right off the bat that a smoking-hot girl wants an arrangement with no small talk. Her secret profile has slutty g-string and tits-out pics. We start texting, “she” (could be a dude) sends a candid full body pic of the same smoking hot girl (walking up the stairs or something), but pretty basic talk no flirting, and suddenly she is eager to have a M&g. Drops a too-good-to-be-true ppm number by text for a girl that hot, which i immediately agree to. However she then asks for $50 gas money and wants it sent to Cashapp immediately before the m&g happens. As soon as you tell her you left rules of no meet- no cash she is gone! (See screenshot of texting with BeautifulRenee)

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GaGambler136 reads

BUT once she knows that you will pay her for NOT having sex with you she has no incentive to ever fuck you, well ever fuck you in the good way of course. lol

 
Not surprisingly I agree with Herb, (shocker I know) except for that part about the envelope of course which he already mentioned. lol

 
I think the most I have ever given a POT before sex was around $50, the most I ever gave a POT before actually meeting her was a free pizza that I had delivered to her home. In all fairness we had a date scheduled for the night before that "I" had to cancel, and of course the pizza was delivered to a local address unlike Venmo or those other apps where you have no idea even what country the girl is in, (or even that she is actually a girl. lol) and yes, we met a couple of days later and she fucked my brains out for a rather modest allowance. I am sure I am up into the hundreds of SB's and POTs by now and this is the MOST I have ever given in advance of actual intimacy.

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AnotherDonJohn79 reads

So the first POT is a normie dabbling in being a SB for the first time. After a bit of talking and a very timely non- monetary gift worth abt $300, bcd was achieved. There was a LOT  of effort and I’m not sure she’s going to be a good SB long term because she’s talking relationship stuff. Funny thing is the way we met (alt SB) she thinks it will help me sow my oats and pick her above everyone else. Go figure.

Second POT, I used a hybrid of hc-gag recs and texted $50 counter to her $200. So far, a full day has gone by without a reply so I think that’s done with. Plus I find her listed in a city 1hr away with a similar handle. Professional dater/ scammer.  

Third and fourth POT M&G are set up for this weekend!

Posted By: AnotherDonJohn

And my strategy is not set.  
   
 So I’ve got three mid 20s POT SBs set up for the first meet.  
   
 First one seems like she’s completely new but I’ve checked out that her body is good from a free drive-by look and hug  
   
 My problem is the second one. She’s said several times that the  first meet will only be a meet and greet over dinner without cups but then I’m supposed to hand over a gift anyway, with the promise that future meets will involve cups.  
   
 What do veterans think of this? It’s been a decade since my last SB ... has this become a new standard of prepayment?! Somehow I doubt it and i’m inclined to lay down the law immediately knowing it could be a game ender.

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bassrat5181 reads

Just my 2 cents.  Please don't reference their usernames.  We are all capable of screening these individuals by ourselves.  I am a firm believer and one of the very reasons I like this page, in keeping the usernames and detailed personal info on SBs out of the discussions.

Herb, GaGa, Sweetman, and others have always been keen to make sure we don't spoil the page.  I haven't been posting a lot over the last year, but that is only bc COVID and my work have kept me from being overly engaged in the lifestyle and the fun of TER.

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sweetman83 reads

Yes, please don't post identifying info here.  If someone seriously wants to know who you are talking about they can DM you and you can decide if divulging that info is a good idea or not. (usually NOT). but don't go public with it.

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AnotherDonJohn101 reads

...Dude with probably more facial hair than Sweetman, Herbcat and you put together, who’s been hacking on his deck, while playing WoW and eating Fritos and passing gas.

I solemnly swear Any real chick i goes balls deep in I will not out her identity!  Lol.

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GaGambler114 reads

BUT it sets a very bad precedence and makes everyone else think that it's ok to identify SB's by name on a hooker board for any reason.

 
Once it becomes "normal" to discuss individual SB's by name on this or any other board that is primarily geared towards discussing hookers it will be only a matter of time in this post FOSTA/SESTA era before these sites start getting put out of business for "promoting prostitution" As I have said on many occasions, "this is why we can't have nice things"

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AnotherDonJohn107 reads

Those profiles have been flagged and removed within days. I’m sure I’m only the only reports.  

But I hear the community’s consensus on naming SB... and btw we’re talking SB handles and fictional stories abt them, right? Even a new POT who went very far with negotiations (numbers for first meet and frequency and rates for subsequent meets) within the SA messaging system (btw, I’m seeing today at lunchtime) never got any acknowledgement this was for anything more than “meets.”  

Like renting a consultant’s time —- in Urology lol. Which is like day-stay motels renting 2-hr blocks for “meetings” for $30-40 lol.

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bassrat51116 reads

The point is don't lay a turd in the sugar bowl on this site.  We like our discussions the way they are.  If you feel compelled to post detailed public stories with usernames (DMing someone with details is all you baby), then try the sugar bowl page on another site (one that begins and ends with the same letter).  They talk smack about the SBs they plug and name names all the time.  Personally, I think the guys on that site are disrespectful as most of these women are not professionals and don't deserve to be treated like street walking hoes.

If you go back and look at Herb's, Sweetman's, and even GaGa's posts the women are described but no names (not even usernames) are used.  

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AnotherDonJohn105 reads

Or couldn’t give a “Rat’s ass” if u will (see what I did there) what such summary recommendations are.

That said, to guys like herbcat, sweetman, and GaG, I will follow your lead on the decorum on this Board. I have valued your advice so far.  

Another amazing 21yo SB blonde with piercings in right place today... yum.

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GaGambler104 reads

He has posts going back 5 years on this very board.

 
Also, I have to completely agree with his advice. Talking about SB's by name and/or handle is very bad form in this post FOSTA/SESTA world we live in. The sugar sites are terrified about being shut down in this country for "promoting prostitution" and rightly so. I believe the penalty is five years in prison for EACH offense which means someone like Brandon Wade would be looking at thousands and thousands of years behind bars if the feds decide to pursue charges against him.

 
Because of this, the sugar sites are very paranoid about allowing known, or even suspected hookers on their sites. Any mention by name of an SB on a hooker site not only puts her in jeopardy, but it puts the whole sugar bowl at risk. PLEASE guys do not "out" SB's or even POT's on this or any other hooker board. As I have said before. "It's why we can't have nice things"

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AnotherDonJohn118 reads

3000 posts going back 5 years about mangina- ism!

Our friend Nicky’s uD definition:
A man who plays up the feminist agenda, and or hates other men in favor of female privilege.
A

Posted By: GaGambler
Re: Actually the fishy rodent is NOT a newbie
He has posts going back 5 years on this very board.  
   
   
 Also, I have to completely agree with his advice. Talking about SB's by name and/or handle is very bad form in this post FOSTA/SESTA world we live in. The sugar sites are terrified about being shut down in this country for "promoting prostitution" and rightly so. I believe the penalty is five years in prison for EACH offense which means someone like Brandon Wade would be looking at thousands and thousands of years behind bars if the feds decide to pursue charges against him.  
   
   
 Because of this, the sugar sites are very paranoid about allowing known, or even suspected hookers on their sites. Any mention by name of an SB on a hooker site not only puts her in jeopardy, but it puts the whole sugar bowl at risk. PLEASE guys do not "out" SB's or even POT's on this or any other hooker board. As I have said before. "It's why we can't have nice things"

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AnotherDonJohn108 reads

The good of not attracting the wrong legal attention etc. which I wholeheartedly support.

A man says: “Personally I would stay away from such language because it’s not good FOsTA-SESTA wise and we don’t want out Board or SA to go away.”

A mangina or turdwell says: “Personally, I think the guys on that site are disrespectful as most of these women are not professionals ”

It’s another thing, newbie, to engage in a sort of mangina-ism (ie, in the defense of the SB) of which my long history of posts shows i do not tolerate. As it is clear from my other threads (first SB pulled from agency, current SB is a pro, POT today was decided between being a pro or doing SB thing), most, if not all, of these girls ARE pros of some sort. It’s only a matter of how their marketing messages are delivered, how much OTC time is delivered, and whether they’re Fulltime or part time and have an option to exit to GF like relationship

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bassrat51118 reads

LOL, just bc I've only submitted 3 reviews doesn't mean squat.  I've seen plenty of providers and SBs.

I guess being respectful towards non-pros (SB) is now mangina-ism. lol.  Call me guilty, but being respectful is part of being an SD in my book.  Being an ass can be in your play book.

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tozer117 reads

👏👏👏

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AnotherDonJohn112 reads

Bingo It’s a Turdwell (see UD). My alias is totally making fun of you guys.  

Btw, that comeback of yours has left me wondering if you truly believe that fishing pros out of the SB world is any Scarlet Letter or sign of doing something wrong. Only a child would believe that a SB is anything but a part of the same spectrum as a pro,  women who would trade favors for financial gain. For your sake, I hope you’re only putting on airs and joking.

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bassrat51100 reads

Not a Scarlett letter or doing anything wrong, just you doing you, being a John.

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AnotherDonJohn77 reads

When you step off the short bus into the sunshine and check your Golden cock below, I guess u feel good because to be clear, you’re NOT a John. You made my day! I’m done with you. Feel free to harbor the mango a delusions.  

My fishing pole is quite nice and quite busy Forrest:)

Posted By: bassrat51
Re: geez actually it’s worse than Simple Manginism...
Not a Scarlett letter or doing anything wrong, just you doing you, being a John.

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bassrat5182 reads

I'm sure I could egg you on for more.  lol

You can't seem to help yourself.

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AnotherDonJohn146 reads

With my rhetorical boot firmly quashing your emasculated parts lol.  

C’mon Rod Tidwell, it that you again lol?

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bassrat51104 reads

You catch what you fish for, so if you are catching pros must be the fish you are casting to.  Doesn't surprise me though, you being a john and all.  HaHaHa, see what I did there. 🤦‍♂️

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