This is not a hooker site, and setting up a M&G with an SB is nothing like scheduling an appointment with your lawyer or plumber. They are as skittish and flighty as a deer in your backyard at dawn.
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Take your time and wade through the flakes. You will find what you are looking for and you will be delighted when you do.
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Remember that success metrics in the Sugar Bowl are much more like batting averages than test scores. A .300 batting average (or 3 hits out of 10 at bats) is a major league player.
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Get back on deck and start swinging away...
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Life is good.
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The Cat
The sugar world is also very "streaky" I go through streaks on Seeking all the time. Sometimes I will have five or six M&G's with POTs that lead immediately to BCD, other times I will go through a streak of no shows, catfishes and women with GPS.
I am not sure if you or I started this saying, but "Always have a Plan B" If I have to drive more than ten minutes to a "date" with a POT I always make sure I have some kind of back up plan so if the girl doesn't show up or she does show up, but she's 20 years older and 40 lbs fatter than her pics, I don't want the night to be a total bust. That's where having a good relationship with a reputable agency comes in handy. About half my sessions with K-girls come after I don't get laid on an SB date. I have to confess, sometimes I will text an agency during my date with a POT once I know it's not going anywhere and I just go through with the date to kill time while I wait until appointment time with my hooker back up.
Let's agree to share credit for this one, GaGa. It's not a new theme for me as I've been mongering for 3+ decades, and I'm sure it's not new to you either...
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But Plan B really works on two levels:
1. Have a back up if she (or you lol) flakes.
2. Literally have a couple of doses of "Plan B" on hand just in case. I've had more than one short-term unintended result and offered up a Plan B pill to ensure I didn't get a long-term unintended result. (Note: Find a way to casually WATCH her take the pill.).
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Having these on hand means:
1. You don't have to trust that she will go to a drugstore and actually buy the pill.
2. You can pre-buy on Amazon for a substantial discount (~$34) over retail store prices (~$80).
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Life is good.
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The Cat
Sorry to hear about your tribulations. Each of us here have been through too many "no shows" to count. What we've learned is that SB's are a special type of person and understanding that, and adapting your behavior is the key to success. By most accounts the ROI on a successful arrangement with a SB far exceeds most other relationships (except perhaps a civie FWB).
A rule that works for me:
-I always meet close to my office or gym. Take my laptop and have a glass of wine or whiskey. I will wait exactly 1 drink, and if the SB doesn't show up..I'm out the cost of my time (mitigated by laptop) and 1 drink.
4-5 weeks ago, had a scheduled meet and greet with a POT. She 'no showed'. Per what I learned on this forum, took the high road and remained gentlemanly. 2 weeks ago, we set a time to meet again. Although she came to the restaurant, she sat in her car in the parking garage waiting on my confirmatory text. In my mind, she was a 'no-show' again despite texting that she was leaving her house and then upon arriving at the spot. So I finished my drink and as I departed the restaurant 25 minutes after our meet time, there she was, walking into the restaurant. Turns out she had poor cell service in the garage which explained the lack of communication close to our meet time. So went back to my table, laughed about it and had a great time. Tonight, I was ballz deep in new pussy.
Patience is a requirement to play in the bowl.
Thing is guys all the ones I set up with have been on the site. They are not new.
They all confirmed that day they were meeting later on.
I did take the high road, told them not cool to waste someone's time, that it was unfortunate they decided to now show and wished them a good day
Maybe it is the area I live, northeast united states. Boston area, the women here all have attitudes.
The "high road" is not degrading them... I would think it's better to say something like, "I waited for as long as I could before I had to leave -- I hope you are okay, and that we can try another time."
That leaves the situation open to another opportunity.
Maybe they dropped their phone in the toilet.
Maybe they got a better offer.
Maybe they couldn't find a sitter.
Maybe they chickened-out.
Next time they may be more desperate, and it'll pay off.
There is potential for success in Boston. That's my neighborhood bowl too. But yeah, lots of flakes and scammers here.
I've had similar luck lately. To GG's point, always be planning for the next one. In my case even with the great ones, they flake out or go MIA and I'm back to square one. Always be closing!
You agree that the women in this area are difficult, have attitudes, and suck for the most part?
You are having issues finding, getting meets and dates with these women?
Right now definitely yeah. A year ago, different story. This stupid pandemic is fucking up everything.
Have another meet up tonight. Just confirmed she will be there, said she would
Some red flags, she has not looked at my profile, not asked to see a photo of me.
When confirming with her she just asked me what the plan was for tonight.
She does not talk, only texts a 2-5 words, has not asked anything about me.
She says she is definitely meeting me but do not have a good feeling about this one either
Am working on a backup plan right now
I thought I read about a phenomenon where by -- correct me if I'm wrong -- if the girl looks at your profile on an app, it may not trigger that she viewed it. But I may be imagining things.
It is worthy of note that I have been after a girl for a long time, but have yet to seal the deal.
On the other hand, a fellow monger I know, who is much younger than I, banged her several times -- and yet I can't seen to round 3rd even though the allowance is dangling.
I will say her situation changed, and her view on life changed.
Things change.
Lucky for me she just got hit with a $5K dental bill, so I anticipate the 3rd base coach clearing me for home plate sometime soon.
She is real and is in college. Know someone who has seen her but he saw her over a year ago
She is not acting like anything he told me about her. She is acting very distant and somewhat pro like
but has not brought up any talk about money or anything for that matter
Proceed with caution, Bobo!
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If she is down for BCD, make sure you address allowance in some way before her clothes come off. You don't want to pull out and her her say "That'll be $800, Daddy."
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The Cat
So many acronyms! What are BCD and POT? Thanks!
You can search all these acronyms in past forum posts. There's a treasure trove of valuable info if you look for it before asking someone here to provide an answer that's already been presented hundreds of times.
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BCD = Behind Closed Doors = Sex
POT = Potential SB or Potential SD. When used in this context without the "SB" or "SD" it generally means SB (Sugar Baby), and refers to an SD's (Sugar Daddy's) preliminary interaction with a SB on the site.
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The Cat
She did not show, as I thought would happen. She confirmed she would be there an hour before our scheduled meeting time. She also said "oh, nice" when she saw pictures of me.
Also asked about how much I would be paying her if we went BCD. I asked her what her expectations were.
She told me a range. I told her that I was on board with her range, which was reasonable.
Also told her that is why we are meeting, to see how we get along, chemistry, to discuss things about an arrangement, etc
I think this chick is just a hardcore whore for money now, based off how she was acting. Seemed reluctant, not wanting ot do a meet and greet. She is not a college SB, that is for sure.
I did take the high road, sent her a message hoping all was well, disappointed she could not make it tonight, wished her well. See if she ever gets back to me. I will say 99.9% no.
So had 5 meetings set up in the last 4 days, have met no one, 4 no shows and the one who did show I did not show as she never responded to me confirming she would be there...
Talking with/reading forums of guys in other parts of the country seems the girls are better than here in the Boston/New England area. The women in this area suck to date to begin with, the ones on Seeking are just as bad.
Seeking is a complete joke here!!!
I’m in a quiet area where people tend to be more traditional in their views of hooking-up/dating activities.
Had times when I sent messages and none of the pots read them, sometimes for well over a month, even though they were on-line many of the times I was on-line.
About six few weeks ago had three NC/NS out of three meetings that week.
Had other times when I connected with three pots within one day, meets were arranged and met all three in within a week. Yes, some on here do much better than that!
In the middle of July 2019 had an unusual stretch where 14 (yes 14) ladies contact me within five days interested in meeting. Able to use work schedule as an excuse to defer some meetings, even booked back to back a few times guessing some would NC/NS. Ended up meeting only three of the ladies. The other 11 NC/NS.
We’ve all had runs like that and there are definitely a large mount of flakes. Was on a trip last week for most of the week and so I set up two meets. Both were supposed to be dinners and both I had been corresponding for a few weeks. Neither brought up much in regards to the benefits and we agreed to discuss. The first night was about 15 minutes away. Waited outside the restaurant for about 15 minutes and she finally said be there in a bit. Enjoyed a nice meal by myself as she never showed. Next morning was car troubles, etc. end of the day wasted 15 minutes outside the restaurant standing but generally not inconvenienced too much as I was expecting it to be more a meet and greet. Fast forward to the next night and set up dinner at a place right next to my motel. She communicated the entire time and was a few minutes late but she had let me know. She let me know she was in the garage and I walked out to meet her. Black one piece dress and was absolutely stunning and exactly as she represented herself to be. Went in had a a really nice meal and got to know one another. End of the meal she grabs my hand and says, we should get out of here. Walked right to my hotel, went upstairs. She goes in the bathroom and comes out in only a lace thong and a bra. Game on, 2.5 hours of fun twisting, flipping and turning and was completely spent. End of the night, I walked her to her car and have been texting regularly. Just this weekend, we agreed to a set amount of benefit but not starting till next week (and I’m back on the road and meeting her tomorrow). Benefit level was completely reasonable and at about 1/3 of what I would pay in the hobby given the length of time and fun that was had. It takes patience and you have to sort thru a lot of trash to find the proverbial treasure. When you do, it’s magnificent. Stay the course Daniel Son...
