I was kind of curious on what your (the peanut gallerys') take (both good and bad) is on converting a escort/fbsm provider relationship to a SB one. I've read some of your threads which mention this but was wondering if you could elaborate. I live in LA. I have a couple of (atf) providers relationships that I think would make great SB ones. But I don't want to upset the apple cart just yet. Thanks.

The first time I did something like that was almost ten years ago, with a very young hooker who was only a few months over 18. She absolutely hated being a hooker and was looking for a way out. I hired her to a legitimate job, but she sucked at it, so basically we had an SD/SB relationship. She is "old" now, almost 28. lol and we still keep in touch and up until about a year ago we'd still hook up from time to time, but I quit paying her a long time ago. So yes it can work out.

A hi rated pro here has a story going round. She was in a monogamous SB arrangement with some attorney. Supposedly a REAL arrangement.  She got bored and horny and started escorting. He found out. Kicked her to the curb and now she is full time escorting.  Tigers dont change their stripes mostly.

I've read a number of threads about mongers and ATF escorts settling in on arrangements. It would work best on a provider who you see occasionally and want to see more, so the lure of a steady/increased income stream is more appealing to her than her current income stream. If you're already seeing her a lot, then it sounds like you are just asking for a discount.

But if you want to come and go, see her about once or twice a week, say maybe 2-3 hours then maybe something can be done. But in LA, expect to dish out alot of dinero. Most Hookers will bite but they won't think of you as a "SD" but as a regular..but what's in a name.
But what is your interpretation of a SB?

I would love to hear what the difference is between a SB and a pro. About the only thing I know is the clock. One is defined. The other is not.

If it's ok with you that she keeps working as a pro then maybe she could be a SB with you.  Otherwise, as has been said, you probably couldn't afford it.   SFTD said, aside from watching the clock,there's no difference, and he's right.  But oh what a huge difference that damn clock can be!

I'm not seeking exclusivity (people have to work and I believe in open relationships). But I would love to have my cake and eat it too, meaning, not watching the clock and also have a discount. I am currently seeing two great providers, one younger (in her mid twenties) and one older (in her forties). Besides both being great in bed, they are "nice people" who I would enjoy spending more time with in and outside the bedroom. They are not clockwatchers with me (if fact, I'm more of a clockwatcher out of courtesy to them). Right now I see each of them once every other month. The older provider lives/works in the Bay Area which I visit quite frequently. I would love to see them at least once a month each. How does one broach the subject without insulting them? How do I make the transition? Thanks.

It sounds like what you want is a discount. I suggest you ask Jack Dunphy, the dean of JDU, the leading university specializing in "how to negotiate with hookers" and forget about "turning" either of them into an SB.  

I agree with your threshold of once or twice a week, but he only sees each of these ladies according to his own words, once every EIGHT weeks or so.

in exchange for some kind of regular company.  I've done it many times.