Been away from a while...  
Recap:  Went to Dominican Republic to fuck hot 18-30-ish Chicas for 10 days - including a 3-way with an 18 year old & 19 year old pair of spinners. Had a blast. Came home and refreshed my rotation. Just read the past threads here to catch up. Did not reply to any of your posts since I'm too lazy to type replies that mirror everything that Gaga already said. :p  
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Now on to the subject:  

In refreshing my rotation, I added a local 24-year old (perky, really perky) brunette who is in training to sell life insurance and a (unusual for me) 35 year old blond up & coming actress who lives downtown but is happy to drive to me.  The Pinay unicorn is floating around between Manilla and her day job in San Francisco, and she travels through LA when she flies. And the 23-yr old AA spinner is flipping between NY and Canada desperately trying to find a gig in LA as she wants to live here.  I have also set up an OTC stripper from a local club for semi-regular visits (i.e.: calendar gap filler).  M&Gs that did not convert included a 19-yr old spinner porn starlet who promised much but bailed on the 1st BCD (Dammit!), and an AA spinner who was returning to LA after living in Phoenix for a year - no show.
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During my recent M&G cycle, I noticed what I think has always been a trend, but it was too low to hit my radar before:  
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The seemingly ubiquitous "2K" former Daddy.  
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On 4 of 5 M&G's my POT mentioned a past Daddy who offered and provided a $2k monthly allowance. The stories and circumstances were different for each POT, but the pattern and implied ask was virtually the same:  $2k in advance and weekly meetings. Of course, I did not agree to those terms and never will (again . It was simple enough to push back and explain why - erratic travel schedule, "I've been burned before" stories, etc. - and I countered with $300-$400 based on hotness and predicted compatibility.  
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As I thought about this recent process, it occurred to me that I've heard this before from many POT's.  Accompanying themes included monthly gets paid even if meetings are less than weekly, more meetings get more allowance, some "spending cash" on the side was typically provided at various times (holidays, school start, family birthdays, etc.).  
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Now I've been in this game long enough to call BS on all of that. And when really pressed from a POT to match that offer, I just say "that sounds like a really good deal - you should go back to him."  And then, of course, I just stop talking and wait.  
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So my question:  
Who else has found themselves negotiating against the mystery $2K Daddy? Have you ever inadvertently or overtly seen proof of his existence? Have you successfully deflected into the deal you really want to make?  
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Or, are YOU the $2k Daddy????  
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Life remains good.  
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The Cat

I've gotten a few who claim a previous SD paid them big bucks.  Of course the obvious thing is that he isn't doing it anymore.  I find that unless you are in the same ballpark, negotiation is a waste of time that just makes them progressively more angry. It almost guarantees they'll be insulting you about something.

I've heard numbers running more like 4K!  A couple girls in my past rotations, whom I believe since they had little incentive to lie, did receive around the 2K mark on a monthly basis.  But the important qualifier here was that they had been in the relationship for many months, going on a year and had built up a significant level of trust.  Several of the girls had been in multi-year arrangements and it just became easier to pay them monthly rather than weekly.  Obviously somewhere along the line, when the relationship ends the guy is probably out much if not all of the monthly payment, but it sorta amortizes out.

Of course she worked for me as a legit employee 30-40 hours a week AND we fucked at least 10 times a week. So I do have to concede I got a LOT of value for my money. lol

 
But even with this girl I had to structure it properly to for it to work out to my satisfaction. When we first started our deal was that she would work for me full time AND provide as much sex as I wanted for the grand a week I gave her, THAT deal was a total bust, she was always tired and hardly ever in the mood for sex, plus she wasn't the greatest employee either, I was really getting the worst of both worlds so I changed the deal.

 
I was really close to just cutting her loose when I came up with an idea, I told her she would have to get REALLY good at one of her two "Jobs" with me. Either she could become a fantastic employee and I would pay her accordingly or she could start fucking my brains out and I would also reward her accordingly. Here is the deal I made her, I paid her $10 hr for the forty hours a week she put in in the office, and then I gave her a "bonus" of $50 every time we had sex and since much of the time we would have sex were during normal office hours she would be "double dipping" by getting paid her "bonus" and her regular pay as well. It worked wonders, all of a sudden she wanted to fuck two or three times EVERY day.  

 
Our relationship has evolved over the years, I met her when she was 18 and she is now 30, and I haven't paid her for sex in years, we are more FWB's now, but we still often call having sex "having a bonus" all these years later. lol

The goal is NOT to win the argument, the goal is to come up with something that you can live with, while at the same time not trampling on her sense of "worth" even if said "sense of worth" is grossly inflated.

 
Case in point, she asks for $1,000 a date, you  respond "No woman is worth $1,000 a date", she gets her back up and thinks to herself "I am "worth" twice that, fuck that guy" She doesn't budge, you tell her to fuck off and both of you lose.

 
Now sometimes there is simply no getting around this, especially with girl with GPS, but sometimes you can get them to see reason.  I do agree If she want's a grand and you are thinking more like $300, the chances of either of you ending up happy are kind of slim.  

 
But back to the $2,000 month SB, My usual response to that kind of ask is "yes, I could see giving you that much, as long as we were seeing each other often enough"  I then do my own math process for her, which of course NEVER has me giving her a lump sum each month, but breaking down her monthly ask into a number of visits that I am happy with. My numbers are probably much lower than most of you due to the much lower cost of living here than either coast. I'd have to see a girl at least 10 times a month to even consider giving her $2K a month, but I am sure everyone here can do their own math. I usually create a scenario where they can make MORE than their original ask, but of course it would mean them seeing me 3-4 times a week which of course almost never happens, but that's not my fault of course.

 
Sweetman and I also agree on one thing to keep in mind about negotiating. I NEVER tell a POT SB that she is BSC and block her no matter how unreasonable her ask might be, Some of these girls are fed a lot of bullshit by their friends and need a dose of reality before they start reconsidering their "allowance" if I reach an impasse with a girl that I am otherwise interested in expect for the rate, I always try to leave the door open, after a couple of dozen jerks tell them to "fuck off" over their GPS, that "nice guy" she talked to a month ago sometimes starts looking a lot better to her. I have had a few POT SB's circle back to me after being shot down a couple of dozen times by guys who are far from nice about it.

but oddly, I don't recall being told they had a $2k daddy in the past.  Usually my offer is accepted, no negotiating, no problem! I had one not long ago who just could not accept so much less than what she claimed she was used to receiving and declined my offer.  Worked fine for me since she was a 6 at best. About a year ago I dated a girl who was an 7-8 on looks, but a 10 on performance, a score she earned on just the basis of her extra hot sloppy bbbjs.  After 3 or 4 dates she said she couldn't see me anymore and needed to pursue more lucrative situations.  I wished her luck, no idea if she succeeded. I'd use some of Gambler's techniques if I found one who thought $2k per month was reasonable and if she was hot enough to bother.

I get this a lot lot too.  And the $2k Daddy always ends up having to leave town  because of a job transfer. I think this story originates in some Instagram guide to being a sugar baby.  

At the same time I do think that some people that throw such sums around do exist. One girl told me that she and two other girls were given $1,000 cash each just to hang around at a party with a bunch of Silicon Valley obnoxious jerks on vacation. The jerks didn't even lay a hand on them but were snorting coke and drinking.

used to set up rich guys and celebs with a limo full of girls for a weekend trip to Vegas.  Four or five smoking hot Asian girls at $5000 each for the weekend.  I knew some of the girls, and they say they mostly just hang around as eye candy so the guy gets noticed.  They said usually the guy doesn't get around to fucking them all, so some of the girls made $5000 and didn't do any work.  They got all they can drink, great food, and had friends along to talk to while the guy was gambling.  On top the $5000 fee, they would also get a tip of at least a grand or two apiece.  I don't now how much the booker tacked on for the limo and setting it all up, maybe another three or four thousand?  With the tip, this is twice as much as these girls usually net working 10-12 hours on a weekend fucking 8 customers.  No wonder they loved it.  

 
These situations do exist, but they are outliers and a fraction of the market.  However, once a girl has experienced this some get GPS and raise their expectations for regular guys like us.  Overpaying ruins the market, but a reasonable tip for extraordinary service does not.  Fortunately for all of us here, there aren't enough of these unicorns to spoil ALL of the girls out there.  Even the ones you get temporary GPS fall back to earth when day-to-day reality sets in.