Father of Dragons and others have wondered how an old guy like me manages to have consistent good results in the shallow end of the SB age pool. I just got home from my first BCD date with yet another new 20yo SB, so I thought I'd share my thoughts.
First of all, I'll describe her. She's an Asian, speaks with an accent, about 5'3". Very slightly thick body, excellent kisser, stunning young breasts, smooth tan skin and a delectable pussy totally shaved. She closed her eyes and got into the zone while we fucked, holding on tight through several positions. Just about everything you could want in a very young woman. She also told me how inexperienced she was. I'm only the 3rd guy to have sex with her. Wow! But she was surprisingly unreserved and got into it with zero hesitation. Surprised me! So backtrack to the beginning of the month. I had a coffee date with an 18yo who was quite beautiful. Nice conversation, but I could see she was not into me. And in fact I never heard from her again. Strike one for Sweetman this month. Two weeks later I had a coffee date with an older SB newbie, a very slim smart career woman of 33. She has never done this before and we had a wide ranging very intellectual conversation, but once again, no contact thereafter. Strike two. Then a week after that I had a coffee date with my 20yo Asian girl. Before I continue there's some more perspective required. I've also exchanged messages with quite a few SBs in this same time frame, and offered a coffee date to many of them. Some have said yes and then cancelled, some have asked for $ upfront and I have declined, These 3 coffee dates were simply the ones that held. OK back to the Asian girl. We had coffee, had a good conversation, and I offered her $ugar but only after we had our first BCD date. She agreed and said she'd be available in a week. Which was today. Much to my delight, she showed up and after my usual "Responsible Adult" speech about health and safety and consent and boundaries, we began making out and getting undressed. A good time ensued. Home run! So I don't know how many potential SBs I exchanged messages with this month. But 3 led to actual coffee dates. And one of those to BCD. For an old guy like me who doesn't offer much $$ I think a one out of three success rate is quite good. I should also mention that during the same time frame I wasn't just sitting in front of the computer wanking. I had 3 wonderful dates with 3 of my reliable young regulars also. Adding to that I received messages from some returning previous SBs who want me to date them again, and you can see my "dance card" is as full as I could want it to be. So my message, as always, is be persistent, be consistent, and play the numbers game. Be nice to them, be honest, and some percentage of the girls you approach will wind up in bed with you.I just went back to SA since I was curious to see just how many SBs i've communicated with recently in order to achieve the results I described in my OP. Turns out my Sent Messages folder has 67 in the past 4 weeks, then another 21 within one month. Not exactly sure what the difference is but that's how SA tags the messages. So I've at least messaged 88 women recently. Some of them were out of towners or foreigners seeking an American SD, so zero chance of actually meeting. But they are included in my total because I always reply, even to those unrealistic ones. And many were unattractive to me, but again, I always reply. I'd guess about half, maybe more, were message exchanges with local SBs I would gladly play with if available. So that's how much mining was required to find one valuable gem.
What percentage of SB's that you are messaging do you think are straight-up pros?
but after a very brief uptick several months ago things have gone back to normal and in my experience over the last couple of years (a few hundred POT SB's and a several dozen actual dates) I have found that the percentage of actual pros is a LOT lower than one would expect. I can't say that anymore than 5-10% of the women I have met/spoken to are pros or semi pros.
That said, I do have a significant number of SB's where our "relationship" is 99% physical. We don't go out to dinner, we don't date, we really don't do much of anything else together but fuck. Several of these arrangements have worked out perfectly for me. I know some guys don't want to be an ATM, but that's exactly what I offer some of these girls. I give a rather low PPM allowance, but I make up for it with volume. I have had more than a few SB's over the years where our arrangement was for in exchange for a low PPM, I would be available pretty much whenever they needed a few dollars, and if that meant several times a week, I was ok with that. For a while I had two different SB's that were coming over at least twice a week, I was getting laid pretty much every day for a cost per week that was less than what a lot of TER guys in the higher priced markets pay for a single two hour date each week.
I meet women who are college students, working single moms, "alternative" lifestyles, career women, etc. I honestly don't believe I've met any "Pros" as the word is used here in years.
I just fucked my first SB, a 19 yo blonde with a sexy body. Booked her for tomorrow night, as well, both at $300. I probably could've paid less, but I want her at my beck and call.
Also had coffee today with another, a 20 yo tall pretty one. Booked her for next Thursday at $350. Again, I probably could have offered less, but I worked hard to get these two SB's lined up and I didn't want them to flake or provide poor service because I was scrimping on PPM.
I have a LOT of POTs that I am spinning up. I'm starting to like this, but I am persistent as fuck on searches and very fast on the keyboard. I could see how it could quickly burn out somebody with less patience for the hunt.
300 isn't bad if you can get multiple hours out of it.
Congrats to ya Blarharse. Sounds like you're nailing it.
It seems like most ladies on seeking sites are clear they don't want to be escorts, so I ask what you said to get an arrangement as you described?
I say that I'm looking for a low-key relaxed NSA arrangement blah blah blah meeting weekly with an allowance.
They say great, that's exactly what they want.
I say that I'll pay the allowance in installments because I don't know them well enough to pay a month in advance. For all I know, they might get hit by a car. They say OK -- maybe they upcharge a little, maybe not.
Then they settle into fucking for money, just like a hooker. Because THEY ARE HOOKERS!!!
Maybe they are hookers, but I'm in no hurry to dispute their disagreement on this point. I'd much rather fuck them than win the argument.
Thanks for posting this. Interesting to see what's said and what gets results.
You have got a bit more time than me I think, but you do very well. I have three ladies in my rotation now...all over 3O but I like them. One day I'll move into the 20s
You're welcome! I do have nearly unlimited time to devote to sugar dating, as much as I please. I tend to browse SA first thing every morning and reply to any messages, then I check in a few times during the day to reply or start/continue conversations.
One of the good things about the demise of the TER discussion boards is that all that time I used to spend running my mouth on these boards I can now spend cultivating new SB's on SA.
I know FOSTA/SESTA really has had a huge impact on a lot of the guys here, I feel kind of fortunate that I moved from "the big city" about three years ago where between P 411 and TER I was able to see a different girl every day if I wanted without expending a lot more energy than picking a different restaurant to eat at, to a small city with ZERO TER reviewed providers and only an occasional P 411 girl touring through here. That's what got me to check out SA and while I can't see a different girl every day like I used to, getting laid virtually everyday is not really that big a challenge, it just takes a little bit more work is all.
"It just takes a bit more work . . . ." Are you saying for you or the girls? (Welcome to 60, my friend. LOL)
If you enjoy your job, then it isn't work.
Or maybe it is:
If you enjoy your work, then it isn't a job.
Either way, I like it and so what if I end up passed out on the floor? At least there's a smile on my face.