I never believe for one second that a provider won't do bareback. Always cover up for safety!!
I was enjoying some quality time with a lady that I have seen several times. It was one of those heat of the moment things. We were mishing, and
I saw that I had lost the condom. When I pulled out, she sort of whined, and reached in and pulled the condom out. She threw it violently across the room, and pretty much pulled me right back in, now bare. (I don't mean to say I was helpless here...) I thought about it for a split second, but it was feeling REALLY good, the lady's legs were wrapped around my back, she was pulling me into her, and, by all appearances (and by the feeling of her spasms and other cues), orgasming. This was too much for me and I followed her example. We stayed "together" for a while, clinging to each other. Then I pulled out,
and she ran to the bathroom. I thought, Oh. Shit. She was in the bath room for a while, and all manner of things were going through my mind. She returned and told me not to worry about it, that she is on the pill. Ok, two adults here. I test every three months and the lady assures me
that she does as well. And yes, I know, a risky "decision" (or lack of one) by both of us. Caught up in the heat of the moment like teenagers.
So, here's my question.
The ladies I see all do BBBJ. Should I be concerned? Should I wait to have a new test result before visiting other ladies? Or ask for covered services while awaiting a new test? (this would alarm my favorite ladies). I may have been irresponsible in the heat of the moment but I do take my responsibility to the welfare of others seriously most of the time.
And, yes, I have thought about the possibility that the lady may have had similar moments with others. Maybe. We really do seem to click, but
who knows? I don't want to ruin a good thing, and I'm not going to ask her....
1. Get tested now for the common things. You will need to be tested after an appropriate period for HIV. The risk is actually pretty low but you owe it to your own peace of mind if nothing else.
2. Disclosure is not really required for BBBJ with others. After all, how many times has a lady asked you about your other contacts before a BBBJ? This assumes you passed the tests for common vds in step 1 or were treated appropriately.
I've had two unprotected moments with providers over the last several years. One was a lady that quite deliberately and surprisingly mounted me bare. As you say, the heat of the moment took over and I went with it. The other was when the condom came off during the 'slam fuck to the finish' and neither of us noticed till the deed was done.
With the first lady, apparently unprotected sex was a norm yet the event led to nothing medical. With the second lady it was an accident but was a medical non-event nonetheless.
Don't stress, get tested and find out. Most likely its a non-issue Best of luck
MVR
Thank you for your well thought out comment. I am, actually, not worried about "picking up anything". I do test regularly, and will alter my schedule to test now, primarily out of concern about my responsibility to other ladies that I see, in order to protect their interests. Thanks -
Well, YesIknowbetter,
You just have to assess your risk tolerance in this case. How much does this bother you? Of course, you could go to a testing facility, have yourself tested and call it a day. The point is that in terms of HIV, you're more likely to infect her than the other way around. As to other STDs, we won't know until you've been tested.
Should you wait with putting your penis in some other lady's unsuspecting mouth? That's up to you again. Covered services? Yes, sure, why not. Doesn't hurt anyone. Should you disclose to your ATFs? Depends. If they are true professionals and know the biz, they may not be so alarmed. Or they might be upset and show it, if nothing else because they had to "share" their client with someone careless and unbusinesslike.
You know, a lot of uncovered stuff happens among civilians - one night stands, people get drunk, condoms fall off - and no one gets particularly alarmed. Not saying that this the gist of your posting specifically, but I believe there is a bias against providers in this regard. And yet, providers are often practicing safe sex to a much greater extent than civilians. This is a no-brainer, pretty much because a diseased woman will have a very short career in a profession where her sex life is described in "juicy details" repeatedly on sites such as TER, through backchanneling, etc. Imagine civilians having their sex life up to such scrutiny! So chances are that, NO, she's not contaminated with anything, but YES, it's best to be conscientious and not forward any potential disease, in the highly unlikely event there should be one.
Let's aaaaall stay calm, take a deep breath...and continue hobbying responsibly,
the Love Goddess
Thank you. Actually, I am not at all "worried" for myself as the lady and I test regularly. I was concerned regarding my responsibility to others that I may see. I also spend a bit of time with civvies here and there. I would have been much more concerned about my wellbeing if the incident had happened with someone I had just picked up, and had no reason to believe that they were as careful as a professional is.
It happens lots more than people realize. I went for a year where I just let gals do what they would with me and I found that ladies rarely used condoms on bj and aobut 20% didn't use it for more.Like guys they just have a perception that they are "clean" and problesm happen only to others. Fortunately I tested ok--but I broke sanitary protocals about 15 times.
i have the same dont ask dont tell me about uncovered sex experience.i am new to this hobby - i have seen 5 ladies.
the second lady i saw (well reviewed on ter, all the reviews indicated condom usage), on our first dat we seeemed to connect immediatly and we went from making out right to sex - no condom.
every time after that was bareback (8 dates)- i never asked her about it, it was like true gfe with her. i had been married for 20 yrs so i never had used condoms. the girl moved away because of a family problem, we still talk.
so i saw another lady recently and again well reviewed on ter. we had a great first time(with condom) and she and i both seemed to connect and didn't want to part. the next week when we got together we just went to
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after hot fore play she guided me in with no condom
it was hot
the second round that hour was the same
she said she liked me alot
from my experience seems many of the ladies allow or want bb full service
am i being foolish or what
i just sent a reply and it wasn't completed
i can i still edit or finish the comment
thanks
joe h
The flight docs used to tell us that IF we had unprotected sex, we could help ourselves out a bit by:
1. As quickly as possible, taking a leak (esp if you have been drinking apparently this can possibly flush things out).
2. Wash yourself or pour an alcoholic beverage over your penis etc.
Are these foolproof or guaranteed? Hell no, but they may be better than doing nothing.
MVR
I never believe for one second that a provider won't do bareback. Always cover up for safety!!
digem-all...I'd rather poke a rusty nail into my right eye than do bareback in this industry. For me EVERYTHING is covered, Not all ASP's like to swap body fluids with 200 to 300 men a year
Hi Famke,
I'm going to ignore that posting saying "they all do bareback." I'm not sure what his point was... The Original post discussed a "perfect storm" of coincidences, where the client and provider clicked, the condom broke just as she was about to cum, and he was also close to cumming. Everyone's self-control was at rock-bottom. This was not a case of a provider doing BB with everyone.
Anyway, seeing 200-300 customers per year, have you NEVER had a condom failure? No breaks, no tears, no accidental unrolls?
If not, you should be teaching a course to the rest of us, about proper condom usage...
You're not going to get many responses - this board is completely intolerant to discussions of BB sex.
If your only knowledge of the hobby was based on TER, you would think:
- all women LOVE condoms
- all providers charge (and can get) at least $400 per hour, with a 2-hour minimum
- all clients prefer dinner and conversation with a provider, instead of actual sex
In reality, most women HATE condoms almost as much as guys do. It feels different to them, they hate the taste and smell of latex, and they enjoy feeling a hot load being pumped inside of them and the somewhat dirty feeling of it dripping out of them afterwards.
Providers are women also, with the same feelings and desires as civvies. It's no surprise that occasionally you would 'click' with a provider, who might say "I want to feel him cum inside me."
It's rare, but it does happen. It doesn't mean you're going to instantly die of HIV. It doesn't mean she's going to get pregnant and call you for child support. It doesn't necessarily mean she does this with all her clients. In the majority of cases it means exactly what you think it means - she took a liking to you that doesn't normally happen with her other clients. Enjoy it for what it was.
I agree with Pittpanter and enjoy it for what it is. I have not had bbfs with a provider "yet", nor have I really pushed the issue. I do see some regulars and we have never pushed it nor have we tried. I think if we did then it might happen. I don't think I would mind. Just me and I still get check often even though I am covered except for BBBJ.
I would not worry about it. I spent some 20 years in the Navy and overseas, in the poorest of poor countries occasionally. Well....never a problem. Of course this was before AIDS/HIV and Herpes 2&3. But there was little antibiotics would not cover and in fact we all took very large antibiotic and gammaglobian (sp?) shots in our rear ends before we transited east over the Pacific to home. We called it the PCOD (Navy always uses acronyms)....pussy cut-off date.
Cheerio, enjoy the moment