23 yo Canadian visiting her grandparents and needed some fun.  We agreed I would pick her up (45 minutes each way) and she would stay the nite. The next day We would do a daytrip so she could go surfing. We get back to my place. Have some cocktails,  jacuzzi where she starts to loosen up. Then 420 and it was game on.  Her total freak side came out. Then morning wood was taken care of in the AM.

Next day was fun. But these kids and their smart phone addictions....lol. so. 24 hours with a young lovely. Total cost 160. Plus a lot of driving.

It's pretty fucking cold in the North East right now. If she's from that area why not ask her stay a few more days until the weather clears up? Or maybe the extreme whether will close the airports... Yay!  
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By the way, was that $160 CAD or USD?  :p

I doesn't matter. An overnight with a young hottie for $160 US or $160 CAD (about $128 US) is taking advantage of a young girl. I hope that there was a nice tip from you.

Tell her to raise her rates if she is at all attractive, but to grandfather you at her old rate (with nice tips of course). I had the opposite experience (geographically) with a mixed Asian lady (Filipina/Japanese) from Hawaii/San Diego travelling the other way. She had just started escorting and was having trouble with things like figuring hotel access. She was super sweet and drop-dead gorgeous and I ended up telling her that she was seriously under-pricing herself. She did raise her rates a lot, but she was worth it. Unfortunately, she retired several years ago.

Are you nuts?!?
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She's not a pro - at least not based on the OP's post.  She's happy, had fun and got what she asked for in sugar.  First, she doesn't have a "rate", she asks for sugar as part of the arrangement. Next, I don't know how many SB's you have now or in the past, but "tipping" ain't part of the sugar deal. Gifts in cash, gif cards, or shopping, yes. Nice dinners, travel expenses, etc., sure. But tipping is for escorts. And I do tip escorts if they deliver above and beyond the expected service.  
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Are you aware that we have many posts from SD's that say some of their SB's don't even ask for sugar?  Are these guys supposed to say, "no Baby, I just emptied my bank account for you... here you go."?  
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If I told any of my SB's "here's a tip, Baby", or "your rate needs adjusting"  they'd be insulted by my treating them like a "whore". It may be a nuance of the sugar world and there may be no practical difference in terms of "costs", but's very significant to a sugar baby.  
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If you are telling hookers or SB's to raise their rates PLEASE do not do so anywhere in my state! WTF?

They figure out their market value pretty quickly anyway. When they can't keep up with the date requests and they see how high their TER ratings are, they put two and two together pretty fast. If you are nice to them and give them good advice, many pleasant rewards might follow (e.g., grandfathering and just genuine warmth). SBs are pros too, and they know it. This is true even if they can't bring themselves to fully admit it to themselves.  

I get tired of the "hooker math" messages implying that they are stupid. Some are not the sharpest knives in the drawer, but there are a lot of very smart women who sometimes work horizontally.

As far as tipping is concerned, just "miscount" the money and leave them a hundred or so more in the envelope. There is no reason to be obvious about it. One SB said that for a guy with a PhD in economics, I seemed bad at counting money. She once asked me for a bit of help with tuition (hundreds, not thousands), and I was happy to oblige.   She had let me take her virginity after all, even though her previous dates had been giving and receiving oral and hand jobs. Or if she doesn't want to feel like a whore by taking money (not any SB I have ever met), take her to an extra-nice restaurant.  

In any case, I have never had a SB or an escort seeming to feel even slightly offended by extra money. One escort would reciprocate by accidentally "mis-stating" her rates the next time we met. I didn't check her website regularly, and I only realized what she was doing to give me a discount after three times.

I respectfully disagree with the dumb advice being given here and want to high five the OP.  

The last thing we want is for the sugar bowl to be a clone of TER. The rates would basically end up being the same as TER if every girl were concerned with “market rate.”  Plus, girls wouldn’t be able to weed out the stupid, rude and ugly wannabe sugar daddies that fuck things up for the rest of us.  

I treat sugar relationships like real ones, with limits. Money rarely gets mentioned and the point is only to have a good time. I definitely end up getting exponentially more for my dollar this way. Have a few girls that basically keep me around as a booty call that sometimes brings cash or expensive presents for them when they need it or deserve it. They’re either banging only me at the moment or only myself and one or two others. All would be offended if I mentioned “rates” and would either stop seeing me or quickly do some googling and figure out they’re actually hot enough to command at least 1000/hr. All have stopped using SA since seeing me.  

If you act like a John, you will find whores in the sugar bowl, albeit with a lot more work. Act like a king and you will find a harem.

Not sure why you insist on conflating SB's with Hookers.  To be sure there is crossover!  But my experience and my unscientific, anecdotal, empirical evidence across California suggests that the crossover is less than 5-10%. Interestingly the stripper-SB crossover is much higher at around 20%. (Or that's just an artifact of the SB's I choose.)  

SB's, unless they are also pro's, don't have TER reviews. If they do, those reviews are in the context of being an escort, not a sugar baby.  

I never said either an SB or escort would object to more money. Obviously that will never happen.  But talking to an SB who is not a pro like she is one by using terms like tip (instead of "present" or "gift"), rates (instead of "allowance"), appointment (instead of "date") or such will likely break the fragile perception they maintain (mostly in their inner-monologue or with the friends) that they are NOT a hoe, but just found a nice guy who helps them from time to time and who enjoys her company. Again, I'm talking about how an SB perceives herself and how she justifies sucking dick for cash as NOT prostitution.  Not how you or I think about them.  

Finally, in the sugar bowl, "rates" asked for tend to go down with increased frequency and over longer periods of time, while overall "sugar" provided tends to go up as SD's are willing to pay for more non-sexual activities and items for SB's they enjoy spending time with. Yes, over time both SB's and hookers get a better view of the competitive landscape, and they adjust accordingly. But why push them along? Or are you the jerk who always pays double the web rate because you think she deserves it, thereby screwing the rest of us (or unscrewing, I suppose :p ) of a fair-market priced session?

Yes! Yes!! And Yes!!!

Funny. She sent me an email thanking me being a gen tleman an d great tour guide. And for having such a nice cock to play with. Go figure.

I agree that escorts aren't necessarily SBs or vice versa. Some of them are already in both pools. For the others, especially the college girls, they often enthusiastically ask about how to become an escort and what it is like. I tell them that I am of the wrong gender to ask, but offer to refer them to escort friends, a couple of whom had given me pre-approval for this. This offer is taken up frequently, and the quid-pro-quo is that my escort friends want all of the dirty details of the relationship with the SB (disclosed to the SB in advance), which they would get anyway if they asked. Given this expectation, this kind of referral is more or less a promise to see them again soon.

Also, my favorite escorts have also been women at the end of their careers (whether in their 20s or 40s) who have become de facto SBs. They don't advertise, they prefer longer dates and longer-term relationships, and they are more relaxed and open.  

I don't know anyone who had also been a stripper so far as I know, but I haven't asked directly. I am planning to see a woman very soon who has been a professional porn actress. I didn't know this when we first had an escort date, but she said that she is comfortable talking about that when we have out next date. I should probably ask about stripping.

Also, I find that many SBs (especially the younger ones) want to go on strip club dates together. I haven't done it yet, but maybe I should.

And that's the way it's SUPPOSED to be.  
These clowns that need to wussy out all the time and tip and advise them that their rates aren't high or expect TER reviews screw it up for everyone else.  
SMH

Have fun on your former porn star escort date.  

As to SB's asking for strip club dates, my experience is less than exceptional, unless she's already a stripper.  My take is that the SB thinks that I like going to a strip club and so she wants to support that. But the result typically is I end up spending $$$ on lap dances for me, for her, for both of us, and I can't actually "work" (or at least its harder to work) any of the strippers for extras or set up OTC meets (something I do a lot). You'd think having an SB with you, especially one who also strips, would make that easier. But my sense is that your SB is not really interested in facilitating you spending $$$ on a new SB or, even worse, a replacement SB.  Finally, when you leave the strip club, you still need to pay out sugar to your SB for the after-club BCD. So to sum up: It's a great way to "invest" an extra $300-$1000 on an SB date and get zero additional return.  

Of course, YMMV. I have heard from guys who bring there SB to the club and she is successful in setting up 3-somes. But that's not my experience.

My SBs tend to be interested in getting their own lap dances. I think that it would be a one-and-done thing with most of them. I guess I end up gravitating to women who are bi-curious. I think most of them would like one, and then hurry back to the room for straight fun. However, I have never tried, so perhaps I am wrong on this. My MFF threesomes have all been like this. It seems like a variation on foreplay for them.

Not the one about those guys trying to fuck it up for the rest of us, I agree with that part completely, but your last actual statement was"SMH" and THAT is what I disagree with. It's not your own head you should be smacking, it's theirs. lol

 
I think some of these guys have been so conditioned to seeing overpriced hookers that they now believe that fucking civvie women without paying them is "cheating" them too.  These guys don't need their man cards revoked, they need them shoved up their fucking ass.

Gagam..omg, funny shit man..

I thought SMH was “shaking my head” not “smacking my head”, haha.  

If there’s one thing this forum should be about, it’s keeping their prices LOW.  Tipping prostitutes is already stupid, and I’ve bever done it. Tipping sugar babies deserves a kick in the balls.