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Yowzers,, I read all that
2ndBaseman 2418 reads
posted
1 / 34

A hobbyist called out a new, attractive, young (22) provider on the Atlanta board for cancelling on him 2 Fridays in a row...the last time 30 minutes before the appointment. The interesting thing is a week before she started  a thread about someone shorting her money because he stayed late.

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=235502&boardID=18&page=1#235502

What are  your thoughts ?

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 783 reads
posted
2 / 34

I am not going to get into the whole situation as sometimes things really do come up last minute etc. but I get how he felt.  

What I will say is that better time management is in order on her part. Space apart things you have to do so as not overdoing schedule and thus canceling. Don't ever assume that something will take an hr to do, especially with College stuff. Last time my college said something would take a half an hour, it took 3 hrs. I had already planned on it, so I didn't take appts til later in the evening.

Kind of the same sort of thinking when gal's back to back book, don't space it 15 mins!!! Geez.

2ndBaseman.... I am thinking this may become a train wreck thread too lol.

sweetnicole1 See my TER Reviews 833 reads
posted
3 / 34

if you are busy your life is bogged down, if you know you may not be able to keep your commitments, don't waste the Gents time and try n squeeze him in.
its disrespectful of HIS time to book an appt and have to cancel.
Let him book with someone else who can make the time for him.
when it comes to negotiating appts BE professional
and have respect for his time.

I know shit happens and we have all canceled last minute due to illness flight issues kids career and school but if you are creating a pattern you
need to correct that.

I have not read the thread on the other board I am speaking in general on this topic.

I have seen women come n go create patterns of canceling on clients they become known for that BUT the clients keep putting up with it and try to rebook with them over and over again. So they get away with it so they don't see any need to change. Stop booking with them and their behavior will change to adjust, or they'll move on.

AlexandraMilw See my TER Reviews 747 reads
posted
4 / 34

I watch my time... what I can do and don't. Only time I ever booked but warned the guys that I was waiting for my brother's girlfriend to give birth. I did warn them that I didn't 100% know what would happen. I planned on being there 9 days prior to birth date.... well, I had to take off 2 days prior to that!  

There are many times where I won't book because of personal stuff and I didn't know how much time I needed. Yeah, sometimes I give up money I could have had.... but pissing guys off and not keeping appts gets around. No matter how good the reason. Some gals lie when giving reasons for canceling, others are being honest. I'd rather be honest and not book than have a pissed off guy ramble on the boards (or back channel).  

Like I said, some need to manage their time better. Not knocking her or him. It is a two sided coin. Gals can cancel and do what they need to. Guys are stuck for the most part as the well rep gals want notice prior to an appt. I make A big effort to never book if I am not sure if I can.
Posted By: sweetnicole1
if you are busy your life is bogged down, if you know you may not be able to keep your commitments, don't waste the Gents time and try n squeeze him in.
its disrespectful of HIS time to book an appt and have to cancel.
Let him book with someone else who can make the time for him.
when it comes to negotiating appts BE professional
and have respect for his time.

I know shit happens and we have all canceled last minute due to illness flight issues kids career and school but if you are creating a pattern you
need to correct that.

I have not read the thread on the other board I am speaking in general on this topic.

I have seen women come n go create patterns of canceling on clients they become known for that BUT the clients keep putting up with it and try to rebook with them over and over again. So they get away with it so they don't see any need to change. Stop booking with them and their behavior will change to adjust, or they'll move on.

ROGM 647 reads
posted
5 / 34

It would be best if the Guy doesn't call her anymore and move on. To Out her on the Board like that is not Cool with me. So for whatever reason this Provider cancelled twice in a row. Time to move on and find another Provider. Plenty of others to call.

JoeBanzai 30 Reviews 826 reads
posted
6 / 34

Seems to me she should have figured out Fridays were going to be a problem and certainly should have found a way to get enough rest to follow through on Appointment #2.  
She also could have given him more notice, 30 minutes is not enough. I have to travel an hour to get to "hobbyland" plus time to clean up and go to the bank if need be, so I would already be 1/2 way to the appointment.
In her favor, she tried to offer to reschedule and she did apologize, but 30 minutes is way too short of a notice. What if he wanted to try for a different provider? Had she let him know her schedule was going to cause this problem a few hours earlier, he may have had time to set up another date.
People ARE human, but we also should honor our commitments and twice in a row, both with short notice shows a lack of common courtesy on her part. You can't have it both ways; running a business AND having "a life".

Back_In_Black 727 reads
posted
7 / 34

Do ! See he passed on another for her . So he isn't the only one who lost out ! He called her out , plain and simple . Sorry but he was right . Just giving guys a heads up . +1 for him !

Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 693 reads
posted
8 / 34

Dear Madam Alexandra:
You are right in making sure that your educational requirements are met before engaging in your part time persuits as an Adult Companionship professional. Maybe a good rule thumb is the following: Make sure all obligations and assignments are complete before you induce someone husband to cheat. If you follow this advice, you will have your money and your degree. You will also keep your customers extremely happy.
Time management is a conundrum onto itself that should be paid attention to in detail.  As for the young lady that did that to the gentleman, the venue to discuss that is on the hobbyist only board and other venues like TER.

xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 825 reads
posted
9 / 34

So I read both posts Hers from the week prior and the trainwreck that ensued ..  

I think canceling 30 minutes before an appointment twice is bad time management..  
I think her apology is sincere.. she is a new kid on the block and maybe she isnt cut out for this line of work.. and this will probably be a harsh lesson for her,, which hopefully wakes her up to keeping your appointments.. the 3 reviews she has have been favorable, and hiccups happen..  

However, there are some things about the OP that concern me..  
He was quick to jump to the conclusion that she is playing some "sick game",  
His overbloated sense of entitlement, aka "We'll see how she makes this up to me"  
The whole " How dare you stand me up after I defended you a week ago" attitude..  
how he goes off the cuff on Providers and Hobbyists who are defending her or disagreeing with his extreme reaction ...  
Like how quickly he jumps to verbal assaults and derogatory language..  
calling guys spineless mangina pussies and worse..  

You can see how quick he is to jump to bashing in both Her OP and this recent one ..

It really gets tiring hearing the whole hobbyist against providers scenario.. like we have this secret war we are waging against eachother.. when really its just one human being with a different perspective.  
He seems to be very dramatic about the whole thing and it sounds more like a my ego pride was hurt rather than just a public service announcement,,
 I can probably find threads where the OP simply states  
"I had Provider (( insert name here)) who has canceled on me at last minute ""  
The End..  

But he took it to an unnecessary extreme..  

He could of easily backchanneled it and he brags about how Atlanta is full of tons of classy providers so why bother so much with the girl who flaked him ?  

Whats interesting to point out is that in her thread, TER does not allow her to even name the handle of the guy who shorted her , whereas on the flip side of that Clients can call out PRovider handles..  
So I think that needs to balance out ..  

Another thing that I noted is that he blatantly stated that he COULD Have written her a bad review but instead decided to post it in the forums instead..  
And im under the impression he most certainly can not write a bad review of her because he never has the appointment so that seems sketchy to threaten that..  

So it wasnt cool for her to cancel on him 30 minutes before the appointment twice, but as a provider watching this unfold, because of how he is handling it , he would go on my DNS list

wonderboy69 38 Reviews 586 reads
posted
10 / 34

It is hard to get access to the hobbyist/reviewers only boards. I was turned down because I am not active enough on these boards.

skarphedin 673 reads
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11 / 34
seduceurwife 739 reads
posted
12 / 34

I jumped over to the Atlanta board to see what all the fuss was about.   I quickly got distracted away from the drama by looking at the profiles of a couple of very hot Atlanta providers.  Now I am thinking I need to schedule a business trip to Atlanta.  I get distracted so easily by a great ass.

lungman 10 Reviews 597 reads
posted
13 / 34

What a waste of valuable time just reading it......kinda like spending all day on TER. ( a waste of time )

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 861 reads
posted
14 / 34

Hobbyists who whine about stupid shit on the boards are idiots. He should do that on the private boards...same goes for the constant threADS from the other side. It's tiring.

xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 612 reads
posted
15 / 34

Not at all , I pay attention to personality types, and I thought your agreement of his opinion was very matter-of-fact, and you did even mention that you thought the whole "sick game" thing was a bit over the top. Though I should point out that I only make appointments with established clients who can contact me through PM with a verifiable handle ,, so you may have to drop the alias and be in closer vicinity to Minneapolis,, :P  

But I dont disagree that it should be pointed out.. I disagree with the abrasive delivery

And I tend to agree more with alot of the posts about how the board should be used to identify NCNS, Bait and Switch, Ripoffs ,Violence and Dangerous Situations..  
I've been pretty open about my distaste for The Juicy Details portion of the review, if I wanted an audience during my adult fun time Id have an event , charge a cover and serve popcorn..  
I've been providing for a little over a year and I have my one shiny good review by an established client that says "Hey, I met Cat, I had a good time and you should check her out"  

But in regards to this , I think a simple statement like I previously mentioned
"So and So Provider (( insert name here )) has canceled 30 minutes before our scheduled appointment twice "  
The end..  
I feel is totally acceptable as a heads up to the community..  

Its very matter-of-fact and to the point and lacks the overly emotional diatribe that what's his face put on ,,  
I mean really? Please dont pretend to be blind to the fact that he clearly was over the top with how he addressed anyone and everyone who disagreed with how he handled it..  
And based on the responses in you gave I dont get the impression that you would resort to verbal abuse..  

But I do disagree with you on the part that it was a great post..  
Standing by someone who has been ripped off and then deciding that you dont stand beside her because she made a mistake with you I think lacks conviction and character  

He then bragged about how he was able to recover the frustration with another provider so really he wasnt out anything.. She didnt hurt him, she didnt rip him off, she certainly didnt NCNS and quickly responded to his post, and in her response did not chastize him, took responsbility and even offered to make it up to him ..  
And he continued to needlessly rake her across the coals as well as anyone else who didnt agree with him .. He accused everyone else of exactly what he was doing and that was being overly dramatic and blowing things out of proportion, on top of which he was verbally abusive about it..  

First of all regardless if a provider flakes on you twice, she doesnt deserve to be shorted or ripped off ,, and the two are separate incidences and then he used his defending her previously as ammunition..  
Integrity states you stick to your original belief that a lady who provided a  service does not deserve to be ripped off,,  
If the same lady then turns around and flakes on you, after you have come to her defense, then point out how its disappointing and that you expected better , and matter-of factly state what happened..  
It was the perfect opportunity to educate and open a discussion how this could be prevented, allowed the opportunity for some sound advice.. Provider 101 stuff..

Here's the thing about me, I also have and currently work in support services for other Providers, Personal Assistant, Booking, Scheduling , Screening, Business and Marketing Development, and have been doing that for 4 years prior to throwing my hat in the ring , so I see everything as a learning experience and I am pretty passionate and proactive about building a sex positive community..  
And things of this nature should be looked at more of a corrective action type situation rather than turning it into a provider bashing session..  

 He was very explosive, demanding, arrogant, and verbally abusive and that's unsettling , especially when he mentioned more than once how he could have written a bad review about her,, and you cant write a review on a provider you didnt have an appointment with ..  so thats a bit concerning that he would flaunt something like that,,  

And you can bet that the provider community in Atlanta took notice of that as well as his verbally abusive behavior... as it was pointed out in the thread and it probably wont bode well for him .

quadseasonal 27 Reviews 565 reads
posted
16 / 34

I'm not defending her in the least .  If she last minute cancelled  me 30 minutes before appt.   the first time , there wouldn't be a  second time .    
   Nothing personal , I know last minute things happen we have no control over .
  Regardless , I will  live for a finite time and then I will die .  
 I strive to  manage my time the best I can , while I'm  alive .  
   
   
   As for the OP,  He did a service disclosing  his empty adventure . I consider myself well warned , if I decide to  book the provider in question ,  I'll try to book her an  hour before time , giving my  anticipation bubble less time to build up and let down  .  
  She gave  what sounded like a sincere apology on his thread , an email and text ,   with an offer to make it up to him , yet he still wouldn't stop the badgering , not even temporarily .
  I understood  his point when reading his first post , except the part where he said she looks plain .  :-D
After  reading over twenty replies from him  to his own blacklist  thread ,   I would guess he's one clingy , childish dude from Atlanta , who never stops whining for more than he's earned,  with his only spine behind the keyboard .
   
 I'm planning a trip to Atlanta to give her another chance .  If she doesn't show , it's not the end ,  Atlanta  is a Gold mine for more chances .   :-D
 
   
   
   

Posted By: xcurvycatrinax
So I read both posts Hers from the week prior and the trainwreck that ensued ..  
   
 I think canceling 30 minutes before an appointment twice is bad time management..  
 I think her apology is sincere.. she is a new kid on the block and maybe she isnt cut out for this line of work.. and this will probably be a harsh lesson for her,, which hopefully wakes her up to keeping your appointments.. the 3 reviews she has have been favorable, and hiccups happen..  
   
 However, there are some things about the OP that concern me..  
 He was quick to jump to the conclusion that she is playing some "sick game",  
 His overbloated sense of entitlement, aka "We'll see how she makes this up to me"  
 The whole " How dare you stand me up after I defended you a week ago" attitude..  
 how he goes off the cuff on Providers and Hobbyists who are defending her or disagreeing with his extreme reaction ...  
 Like how quickly he jumps to verbal assaults and derogatory language..  
 calling guys spineless mangina pussies and worse..  
   
 You can see how quick he is to jump to bashing in both Her OP and this recent one ..  
   
 It really gets tiring hearing the whole hobbyist against providers scenario.. like we have this secret war we are waging against eachother.. when really its just one human being with a different perspective.  
 He seems to be very dramatic about the whole thing and it sounds more like a my ego pride was hurt rather than just a public service announcement,,  
  I can probably find threads where the OP simply states  
 "I had Provider (( insert name here)) who has canceled on me at last minute ""  
 The End..  
   
 But he took it to an unnecessary extreme..  
   
 He could of easily backchanneled it and he brags about how Atlanta is full of tons of classy providers so why bother so much with the girl who flaked him ?  
   
 Whats interesting to point out is that in her thread, TER does not allow her to even name the handle of the guy who shorted her , whereas on the flip side of that Clients can call out PRovider handles..  
 So I think that needs to balance out ..  
   
 Another thing that I noted is that he blatantly stated that he COULD Have written her a bad review but instead decided to post it in the forums instead..  
 And im under the impression he most certainly can not write a bad review of her because he never has the appointment so that seems sketchy to threaten that..  
   
 So it wasnt cool for her to cancel on him 30 minutes before the appointment twice, but as a provider watching this unfold, because of how he is handling it , he would go on my DNS list

1192967 45 Reviews 592 reads
posted
18 / 34

...to mean she played the "sick" game as in she was sick & had to cancel. Not that she was playing a sick game with him by cancelling. If you read other of his posts you'll notice sometimes his language doesn't make sense. Maybe because of auto correct or English not being his first language. I don't know which.

1192967 45 Reviews 693 reads
posted
19 / 34
xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 581 reads
posted
20 / 34

Based on his flair for dramatics and bashing I took it that he meant a "sick game" nother playing sick,,  
but her being manipulative,  because of how she went to the boards prior about being ripped off,,  
I dont think I mistook the context of it based on his OP and then the 20 million other posts where he is being verbally abusive..  

Like I said,, I dont think he will be getting a quality provider date anytime soon with that public display of jackasser

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 617 reads
posted
21 / 34

The post was informational only. White Knights and Mangina’s all over it without knowing what in the hell went on. Neither do you for that matter.  

All you are doing is bloviating stupid shit.  

Stop hiding behind an alias so you can be chameleon as occasion presents.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 709 reads
posted
22 / 34

at will. But hobbyists cannot say anything about what they did.  

There are few hobbyists with balls to call it as is.  

Flair for drama, all the drama was started by drama queens and king like you and your ilk.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 643 reads
posted
23 / 34

to make them look good are the drama kings. Go read the post. I never said don’t see her or call her. My post ended up saying, do as you wish but don’t be surprised if you get cancelled at the last minute. Then, the white knights and mangina’s made it a dram.

I disagree with you about posting. It is information for other hobbyists. Somehow, you people think I am hell bent on seeing her, far from the truth, don’t really care.  

Moreover I saw someone 30 minutes later on the same day.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 641 reads
posted
24 / 34

I told her what I thought about her cancellation in my reply to her test. Nothing back.  

When the I posted the facts, then she came up with the apology.  

As far as I am concerned, all of you can dice and slice all you want, truth doesn’t change and I don’t give a fuck

1192967 45 Reviews 658 reads
posted
25 / 34

...sick game. I see your point on the OP's statement. That's all I was commenting on.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 657 reads
posted
27 / 34

Did not know it was you. Thought it was some newbie stirring up bs. Even though your handle only shows 3 reviews, I know you are legit and have been around here a long time.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 659 reads
posted
28 / 34

People like  you should refrain from bloviating about things you have no clue

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 673 reads
posted
29 / 34

Let me know how much you want to wager?  

I will even let you pick the 3 quality providers.  

Are you in?

xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 674 reads
posted
30 / 34

legitimacy doesnt excuse the unnecessary vitrol  
Nor does tenure give him entitlement to act like that..  

Its just my opinion, but someone who makes a conscious effort to be verbally abusive lacks integrity

That's All  

~Ca

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 884 reads
posted
31 / 34

or just decided use a word because it sounded good.  

in·teg·ri·ty
inˈtegritē/
noun
1.
the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness.

Did I lie? When? Where?

You what I am really sorry about. You people made it into much bigger deal than it needed to be. It was simple post about someone not having integrity two weeks in row after confirming date on both Fridays and after exchanging 26 + emails in two weeks.  

Since, you people made this into big deal, I actually sent her an apology.  

The post simple information to fellow hobbyists in Atlanta and now everyone had put in their 2¢ while not knowing what in the hell has taken place

xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 630 reads
posted
32 / 34

Good, she deserved an apology  

And there was nothing honest about your intention.  
You acted harshly more over pride than a sense of helping your community.  
Its like crying wolf.  

And you made it everyone's business by posting a thread about it,  and its a forum you so its laughable that you thought people werent going to respond to it..  
If you wanted to make a simple public announcement to hobbyists you would have gone on the hobbyist only forum and made a simple statement about it..  

You acted like a butthurt baby about it, then whined and proceeded to hurt her reputation and drag her through the dirt. And then anyone who disagreed with you , you verbally abused them for having a difference of opinion. You didnt show any restraint and lost your composure which made you look like an overreacting ass.  

She has 3 good reviews, even a client that had seen her come into the thread.  
She made the mistake with you and you wanted the whole world to know about it.  
You didnt even bother to work it out with her in private ahead of time, you didnt take a cooling off period. You went for the jugular.  
She didnt NCNS, She didnt rip you off, she didnt bait and switch you , she canceled 2 appointments 30 minutes before they were supposed to happen ,, in the grand scheme of things she has bad time management skills and needs to work on them..  

You implied several times that you could have written a bad review about her..  
Yet you didnt even have an appointment with her, so you admitted that you could have falsified information , like it was something to be proud of.  

If anyone made it a bigger deal than what it was , it was you.  

She deserved that apology,, so good for you for sucking up your pride and giving her one

~Ca

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 383 reads
posted
33 / 34

You can take your comments and shove it.  
 

Posted By: xcurvycatrinax
Good, she deserved an apology  
   
 And there was nothing honest about your intention.  
 You acted harshly more over pride than a sense of helping your community.  
 Its like crying wolf.  
   
 And you made it everyone's business by posting a thread about it,  and its a forum you so its laughable that you thought people werent going to respond to it..  
 If you wanted to make a simple public announcement to hobbyists you would have gone on the hobbyist only forum and made a simple statement about it..  
   
 You acted like a butthurt baby about it, then whined and proceeded to hurt her reputation and drag her through the dirt. And then anyone who disagreed with you , you verbally abused them for having a difference of opinion. You didnt show any restraint and lost your composure which made you look like an overreacting ass.  
   
 She has 3 good reviews, even a client that had seen her come into the thread.  
 She made the mistake with you and you wanted the whole world to know about it.  
 You didnt even bother to work it out with her in private ahead of time, you didnt take a cooling off period. You went for the jugular.  
 She didnt NCNS, She didnt rip you off, she didnt bait and switch you , she canceled 2 appointments 30 minutes before they were supposed to happen ,, in the grand scheme of things she has bad time management skills and needs to work on them..  
   
 You implied several times that you could have written a bad review about her..  
 Yet you didnt even have an appointment with her, so you admitted that you could have falsified information , like it was something to be proud of.  
   
 If anyone made it a bigger deal than what it was , it was you.  
   
 She deserved that apology,, so good for you for sucking up your pride and giving her one  
   
 ~Cat  
   
 

xcurvycatrinax See my TER Reviews 680 reads
posted
34 / 34

lol..  
Here's a clue, because clearly you need one..  
You dont want anyone commenting on your public infantile temper tantrums  
then dont post.. it really is that simple  

Again ,, good for you for giving her the apology she deserved..  

Hopefully you will learn to drop that self-aggrandizing view you have of yourself so the rest of us dont have to suffer too much from your overly zealous fits because someone stole your cheese.  

~Cat  

 
Posted By: anonymousfun
 
 You can take your comments and shove it.  
   
   
Posted By: xcurvycatrinax
Good, she deserved an apology    
     
  And there was nothing honest about your intention.    
  You acted harshly more over pride than a sense of helping your community.    
  Its like crying wolf.    
     
  And you made it everyone's business by posting a thread about it,  and its a forum you so its laughable that you thought people werent going to respond to it..    
  If you wanted to make a simple public announcement to hobbyists you would have gone on the hobbyist only forum and made a simple statement about it..    
     
  You acted like a butthurt baby about it, then whined and proceeded to hurt her reputation and drag her through the dirt. And then anyone who disagreed with you , you verbally abused them for having a difference of opinion. You didnt show any restraint and lost your composure which made you look like an overreacting ass.    
     
  She has 3 good reviews, even a client that had seen her come into the thread.    
  She made the mistake with you and you wanted the whole world to know about it.    
  You didnt even bother to work it out with her in private ahead of time, you didnt take a cooling off period. You went for the jugular.    
  She didnt NCNS, She didnt rip you off, she didnt bait and switch you , she canceled 2 appointments 30 minutes before they were supposed to happen ,, in the grand scheme of things she has bad time management skills and needs to work on them..    
     
  You implied several times that you could have written a bad review about her..    
  Yet you didnt even have an appointment with her, so you admitted that you could have falsified information , like it was something to be proud of.    
     
  If anyone made it a bigger deal than what it was , it was you.    
     
  She deserved that apology,, so good for you for sucking up your pride and giving her one  
     
  ~Cat    
     
 

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