I have always gone to the girls but because of not being able to get away for awhile I was thinking of having one fly over to visit me. My main concern is how to discreetly pay for her travel expenses as I am a cash only guy and do not want to leave paper trails. I know if I contact a girl they will probably have their own ideas but if any of you could offer some suggestions I would appreciate that it's not like I can just mail her a big wad of cash to book her own arrangements.

Unless you want to pilot your private jet over to come and get her.

She'll want a deposit to cover the airfare at the very least, so be prepared to send that to her by any of the afore mentioned means, or Green Dot if she has an account with them.

Be sure you are dealing with someone who is very solid and reliable.

Even TER accepts bitcoins. My webhost accepts bitcoins and so do many places I shop online. There are growing number of providers who accept bitcoins. It serves its purpose as an anonymous payment, so why the sarcasm?  

Maybe it's hot potato (or potatoe)?  LOL

if I was holding a quarter million in cash,  
how's that different in the eyes of irs?  

Solves the problem entirely.  You are into fetish as well...right?

You even gave the reason why bitcoin will die a rapid death.

Wonder woman would also be on my list and she has her own plane to boot lol.

It's here to stay,  whether you like it or not. I wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant.  Hey,  people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.  

Wishing it to be seems to be your style anyhow.

Posted By: Drunken Asian

It's here to stay,  whether you like it or not. I make wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant.  Hey,  people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.    
   
 People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions?  my guess is no.  
   
 TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on.  point proven.  
   
 Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?  
   
 Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.    
   
 just with the flow if it's something you don't understand.    

We all knew it was the "coming thing" but you couldn't go to bed owning it without fearing that you would wake up in the morning to find it was worthless.

The biggest difference of course is that at least with a dot.com stock, you "might" wake up in the morning to find yourself rich, with bitcoin the most you can hope for is that you still have what you started with. Huge risk, no real reward. Thanks, but I think I will pass.

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I won't even touch the investment aspect as everyone has their own strategy.  Those who recognized that valuations based on airballs is not a long term prospect...but many can and did make shitloads of money on the losses of those who got in later (regarding the dot.com implosion).

Which is exactly my point, at least if you gamble on an investment you have upside potential to justify your risk. When owning a "currency" as erratic, unstable, and on every governments "hit list" you face the very real possibility that your money could be worthless at a moments notice, with no real upside that your money will be worth anything more than face value if you do manage to avoid catastrophe.

I would say it's more like having your money in confederate dollars 150 years ago than any other comparison I can think of. There was no potential that your money would appreciate, but when the south fell the value of the currency fell with it. In the case of bit coin there is not even so much as an upstart government behind it, it only has value because someone has convinced the daring/foolish that it has value, that value could completely evaporate overnight at the hand of government or it could simply collapse if holders lose confidence in it triggering a "run".

nope, the government can't track our cash and it is the same for bitcoin. how exactly are they going to track something that's been designed and encrypted to work like cash? you're most definitely confused there and have no clue how they work.

It's not going to be any where near a million dollars worth. more like couple hundred at most.  

There's no shortage of them...I trust you are at least aware of the hypocrisy in your comments here.

Posted By: Drunken Asian

nope, the government can't track our cash and it is the same for bitcoin. how exactly are they going to track something that's been designed and encrypted to work like cash? you're most definitely confused there and have no clue how they work.  
   
 in the mean time,  I'll pay for my hobby related stuff anonymously while you're busy berating stuff you haven't ever used before.  why the need to insult those who are already using it?  simply cuz you don't use it and you're too afraid it's some cult?  All the while more and more sites (Like TER) are catching on making it easier to pay.  Did you notice that? LMAO  
   
 It works just fine for stuff like TER and a whole bunch of other online stuff,  so why do you feel the need to put in your un-expert inexperienced advice when it more than serves its purpose?  Have I endorsed it as an investment?  no.  Are you a Certified Payment advisor? lol  Why the need to berate people who choose a different route to pay?  
   
 You can use your credit card and your *real name* for hobby online  services if you want to. Be my guest.  lol    
   
 no one is stopping you but no need to make fun of those who take alternative routes,  not everyone gives a shit about government this or that (as long as it works right now and serves its purpose). It's called adapting to change,  you should try that some time.  
 

But I opened up a separate account, with a separate bank for the purposes of the hobby.  My cover story with my wife (if she ever find out I have an account there) is that it is strictly for mutual fund investments, which I also have there (trying to pay for the hobby via interest and dividends LOL).

The valuation on this digital currency fluctuates by the moment.

hey even cash isn't completely anonymous,  but there are ways to increase crypto currency anonymity to the point where it is extremely difficult to track. Every transactions are stored in Block chains which is why people need to use a new address for each. You'd need a ton of resources to track such block chain.  

I don't give any information to him about who I am, (anymore,) and have been asked for a picture of my DL and Passport for him to book a flight overseas in the past. Of course, that didn't happen lol.

Bit coin is in deep shit. They are having all kinds of legal and financial problems.  They are also under federal government and other governments for illegal money transfers. Great suggestion to someone who wants to hide their tracks.

Opps.. forgot.. You don't even have game to show me that... I'm gonna have to ask some of my other black friends...

Thanks for now at least admitting that "cash isn't completely anonymous"...as for the use of bitcoin encryption being moreso...again you need to educate yourself.  Seriously, there are many papers written by well regarded economists (as well as bankers and businessmen) on this.  Give it a shot...you don't have to buy any of it, simply educate yourself.

And Fannie Mae survived the meltdown how?  

Posted By: Drunken Asian

It's here to stay,  whether you like it or not. I wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant.  Hey,  people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.    
   
 People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions?  my guess is no.  
   
 TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on.  point proven.  
   
 Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?  
   
 Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.    
   
 just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.    

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Does that count?

Posted By: USGrantlover

And Fannie Mae survived the meltdown how?  
   

Posted By: Drunken Asian

It's here to stay,  whether you like it or not. I wouldn't make such doom and gloom predictions unless you're clairvoyant.  Hey,  people predicted Fannie Mae will die a rapid death too last year but their stock actually went up dramatically since then. Same for those who gave their "predictions" on bank of America and others.    
     
  People always think they got these clairvoyant abilities but fail to realize it's a techological change indigital currencies that is much needed. Have you read anything about this area of e-commerce and transactions?  my guess is no.    
     
  TER accepts bitcoins. hundreds if not thousands of others catching on.  point proven.    
     
  Even if the government tries to shut down one type of crypto currency they can not stop it all. bitcoin isn't the only one. did you know this?    
     
  Same happened with the music industry, with the illegal downloading turning into a model for a new business model. the change is sometimes needed.    
     
  just go with the flow if it's something you don't understand.      
   
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LMAO! Get a separate CC is your BRILLIANT suggestion? Are you going for the SPOTY trophy????

Now, I thought you're smarter than that CPA but maybe you should just go back to doing taxes for now?  
Get another credit card... when the whole point is NOT to reveal my SSN and name too easily.  ROFLMAO  

Who said anything about surviving a meltdown. Most people avoid stuff that actually are sitting at rock bottoms and then jump in only after it's gone up too high to buy... like after it reaches the likes of worthless WSJ when it becomes public knowledge already... pretty much making it useless.  I'm sure our expert friend CPA would know something about the WSJ?  

The more you post the more you spew stupid senseless drivel.

Posted By: Drunken Asian

Now, I thought you're smarter than that CPA but maybe you should just go back to doing taxes for now?  
 Get another credit card... when the whole point is NOT to reveal my SSN and name too easily.  ROFLMAO    
   
 You have clearly never used a crytocurrency to know what you're talking about, yet you continue on with your un-expert advice (mainly due to your fear and its volatility, but I've shown you that euro vs dollar is volatile too considering it's an 'established' government backed currency. Were you too slow to realize its volatility? ).  I get it, you get your news from the likes of WSJ so it's understandable, you know, the journal that's always a day late and print articles after the fact.  It's pretty useless for traders and quick short term investors, but maybe it's good for people who like to jump in after the fact and buy high. Just like how they touted bit coin when it was sky high and now they are back paddling when it's actually bottomed short term.  
   
 I was referring to it as an alternative form of payment FOR THOSE WHO ACCEPT IT AND WANT MORE PRIVACY than credit card or paypal. Clearly, there are more and more people who take it. You won't get 100% anonymity, much like cash isn't a guarantee of anonymity. You sure are slow to understand what crytpo-graphy entails.  
   
 The point you're clearly not getting is: Cryptography is never absolute, but for all practical purposes you can rest assured it'll take far more resources to find out anything and it took to create it. You're confusing practical versus ideal and you're continuing on being a pedantic putz with your limited knowledge which rarely applies in the real world.  
   
 Good luck tracking me down with my cash spendings.  For most practical purposes it's reasonably anonymous.  And escorts take cash, so completely-anonymous or not, I'm paying with cash cuz it's reasonably anonymous.  
   
 Also, good luck tracking my bit coin spendings cuz believe it or not, it's a lot harder to track than you think (at the moment). Much like posting from a public IP address would make it impossible to track an anonymous poster, There are ways to obfuscate the flow of cash, such as getting your cash from some other source other than an ATM machine.  And just the same, there are ways to obfuscate the transaction to the point where it is very difficult to track.  Much like securing your password, a dedicated person might be able to hack it, but it's going to require a ton of resources. It's easier to obfuscate and make the thing harder to track than you think.    
   
 Hey, my machines mined a few bit coins lately. I have a network ring when it isn't running computations for research, it's making money for me making the most of its resources.    
   
 It's free money (but not exactly free, considering the computation it took to mine them. It paid for a couple of sessions too).  Some providers take bit coins, TER takes bit coins, my webhost takes bit coins. So why wouldn't I pay with bit coins if I have some laying around free?    
   
 I'm sure this concept is new to you though but understandable cuz you're afraid of something that's new and approach it with much skeptism when clearly it's catching on faster than you can type. You're just spewing needless arguments when it works quite well for many people for most practical purposes.    
   
 A whole lot better than your suggestion of opening another credit card and use it for illegal enterprise. LMAO!!!  I know you're smarter than that though, I'll give you that.  
   
 "We mock what we don't know."  
   
 If the government decides it needs to keep better tabs on them, guys like me find something else. Pretty easy.

Honestly though, I don't give a shit enough about this topic as much as you may like.  

Apparently, more and more are accepting bitcoins.

*Falls asleep*

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If you're flying me out then lol (JK)......yes, typically a deposit would be required to cover any airfare and other expenses covered out of the gate. I always do all my own booking as it keeps things simple, direct and the most economical for both parties involved. Most of us usually have it down to a science in that regard. No need for any personal information to be given out unless chosen after introduction of course.