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ImNotBlowinSmoke 6453 reads
posted
1 / 46

I recently had to pass up an appointment which I was really looking forward to.  The provider had great reviews.  We had e-mailed and made phone contact having chat that was humorous and enjoyable.  We seemed to both be looking forward meeting.

Then she wrote me that she had had a situation that shook her up a little and that she was mad at herself for letting this event get to her such that she started smoking again. She explained that she had worked very hard to quit and had been off them for about a year.

Her reviews stated that she was a non smoker and I inquired with my first request for an appointent.  Of course, at that time she was a nonsmoker.  Well now that she had smoked I told her that I hoped that she would be off them by our appointment (a good two weeks away).  She responded quite bluntly telling me that she didn't need me to get on her about this.  Then gave me a FYI that she always brushed her tongue and used mouthwash etc., etc. even prior to her quiting.

In subsequent e-mails she mentioned some of the details of our up coming appointment and I responded positivly, but again inquired about the smoking.  Well, this got to her and she cancelled the appointment.

I like DFK and DATY.  What is it about smokers that they think that the gent won't notice?  I hate the taste of smokers mouth and, sorry gals, but it's down in your lungs and in your system and on your breath where no amount of mouthwash will get it out and lasts for days.  Am I the only guy who thinks that it effects the flavor of the box lunch?

At least 4 times I have dated providers whose reviews stated that they were non-smokers.  I have learned to not trust the reviews and ask outright.  I still get the dodge. Only once have I had a lady admit that she was a smoker when we talked ahead of the appointment.  And even then, she followed it up with a comment suggesting that I would not know when we met.  I tried and, guess what?

I wasn't bugging this most recent lady for her sake, I was trying to get a straight answer as to whether or not she had done what she said that she wanted to do: quit.  I did not want to be with a smoker, period.  I DO hope that she is succesful in quitting again and that IS for her sake, but that's another issue.

I find the habit disgusting (a term she used also, BTW). And I wonder why smoking providers would try to hide the fact that, contrary to their reviews, they are smokers...even after they are directly asked.

Rickbethel 21 Reviews 3872 reads
posted
3 / 46

"What is it about smokers that they think that the gent won't notice?"

The fact of the matter is that a lot of gents (like myself, who has never smoked) are not particularly turned off by the smell, in minute quantities. I've seen a number of ladies who smoke, but all of them had taken the appropriate steps to hide the smell, and did a very good job of it. Sure, I detected it, but appreciated the effort to minimize it.

I realize that some fellows are ultra-sensitive to smoke odors, so maybe providers should not take an appointment with a fellow that brings the subject up (which would be an indication of higher sensitivity.)

colhogan 7 Reviews 4405 reads
posted
4 / 46

i dont smoke and i dont care how much mouth wash you use you still can smell it and taste it. I have had ladies want to smoke during breaks in the session they politly ask and my reply is

IF YOU MUST THEN DO
then they never light up
hogan

sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 3994 reads
posted
5 / 46

And based on what you've written and how you say you've gently (though pointedly) inquired about it, as well as how you've made it known the importance it is to you, I don't understand the response/s.
Most smokers TRULY do NOT realize that you can tell. I have friends who smoke, have had clients who smoke and my own daughter smokes. I understand the ladies not wanting to miss out on a date based on something they believe to be either trivial or something they can easily cover up. For the most part it may work; for the most part the clients may not mind. This post in NO way is meant to put down the ladies or say that they are being inconsiderate - I just think they simply don't understand. You happen to be a person that has quite an exception to it. It DOES matter to YOU.
The four days that I was in Vegas, one of the biggest turn offs was having every place you are smelling like an ashtray. I had to wash EVERYTHING all over again, and seriously contemplated giving my luggage to Goodwill - it reeked! I will shower, shampoo and meet my daughter for lunch and she will be considerate and smoke on the patio, and blow it out the window when we drive. But, although that makes it more COMFORTABLE, the fact is, when I get home, all the clothes go in the wash and I shampoo all over again because the smell is in my hair!
I HATE it!
Now, everyone has their opinions and feelings about this, and the fact of the matter is, as with anything, in choosing your lady, and in her accepting the date: you either meet the requirements (both parties) or you don't and you move on. And people should realize that no offense is intended on either side, just like anything else.

A Spectator 7432 reads
posted
6 / 46

that allow smoking.  You don't realize how many "non-smoking" ladies actually enjoy an occasional smoke in front of their clients.  They felt that I really accept who they are instead of an image projected in an ad.

Different people have different taste.  JMHO, there are many beautiful and interesting ladies who are casual smokers - models, actresses, students, etc.  If I was strident about only meeting non-smokers, I won't meet the few unforgettable ladies in my life.

Happy hobbying.

-- Modified on 8/30/2003 12:41:30 PM

rightduck 1 Reviews 4324 reads
posted
7 / 46

For a very few of us with asthma or allergies, even being in a room that has traces of cigarette smoke can mean a trip to the hospital.

So ladies, please make sure your smoking information is accurate.

Now, I'll grant you, one of my favorite ladies does smoke - but never around me, and her place never smells of smoke.  Makes a big difference.

edswired 13 Reviews 3422 reads
posted
8 / 46

On the other hand, for all of the smoking hobbiests, I find it erotic to share a cigarette while pleasuring each other. I am more comfortable knowing that my smokey breath is not a turn off for the one I wish to turn on. So far this has not been a problem, even for non smoking providers, with fresh clothes and shower, mouthwash is what has worked. I also figure that because you gals are so polite, that you just dont complain about it.
  If allergies to smoke are mentioned then I will not go there, no matter how perfect in all other respects. Nothing worse than an asthma attack during the throws of passion. Unless you count spontanious human combustion.....Talk about a hot session! : )

Rick777 3245 reads
posted
9 / 46

I have to say that if the provider is considerate that smoke is not a problem.  But for some people quitting is not an option.  I hear smoking is more addictive than cocaine.  So if you have it in you cut them some slack.  Maybe they will do the same for you sometime.

elcamino_honey See my TER Reviews 5103 reads
posted
10 / 46

quitting isnt an option for other reasons than its highly addictive...

some people Actually Enjoy Smoking, and dont Want to quit.  these providers Should have 'smokes' on her profile and how often she does it...

and you are dead on about cutting them some slack... bugging a provider, expecting her to change her lifestyle for you?  thats just insane.

notblowingsmoke, treating a provider like what she has isnt good enough for you and she Has to change to see you is actually very annoying, if not down right rude...

theres a provider or 10 for every man... you dont need to pick on one cos you Cant see her, for Your Own Personal Reasons at that.

(sorry, but not really...)
Nicole
Atlanta

SmokerX 5615 reads
posted
11 / 46


As for me I am a smoker, and it's displayed in my TER profile, that I smoke but not with clients. 100% truth. I never light up with any of my clients, infact, you would have never known that I had smoked, for I don't ever get a smoking room. Also, I am very low volume, and that is from 1 to 2 gents. I wait until both clients are done with their sessions, and I lightup outside the hotel. Besides, I would never smoke in a non-smoking room, for I know that I would offend the hotel rules, and the smell of smoke might offend my clients. Just to let you know, I get more clients who don't smoke, than smoke who come in to see me. Not one of them would be able to tell that I was a smoker.

-- Modified on 8/30/2003 4:41:01 PM

ImNotBlowinSmoke 3951 reads
posted
12 / 46

You are exactly right.  We should make our desires known and not go into a lather when the other person doesn't fit our expectations.

I'll admit to holding out expectations for getting together.  For one, she started the e-relationship as a non smoker, two she stated that she was mad at herself and now was going to have to quit again ( wrongly assumed it might be just a one nights smoking binge), and three she wrote back about appointment details (she was touring from another city).  That is the only reason I kept asking.  She fumed at me if not directly flamed. "I'm taking enough S*** from XXXX, I don't need you to give me any" (I paraphrase).  So much emotion!

I assumed that she was mad at herself and taking it out on me.  But I was puzzled as to what she intended to do once we were together.  My guess is that she would try to fake it.

There are pleanty of us to match up with.  We souldn't be angry that every inquiry isn't a good fit(she is a very popular and very busy provider).  And we definitely should kindly pass and move on without undue harshness.

ImNotBlowinSmoke 4415 reads
posted
13 / 46

I didn't INTEND to bug this provider.  I only wanted an honest answer as to whether she would have quit the habit by the time we had scheduled.  I do think that she FELT BUGGED by me.  At least that's how she sounded.  

I never expected her to change anything for me. Keep in mind that as I mentioned in response to Sedona above,  she told me she was a non smoker when I made first contact,  she stated that she was mad at herself, found it "disgusting".

I never treated her as though she wasn't good enough for me. Only that I dont' date smokers.  In fact I was having such a good time chatting that I had every intention of staying in contact and being friendly and waiting patiently for the day that she could tell me that she had quit and we could get together.  I intended to fly her out if necessary she is a fun gal.

You wrote "she Has to change to see you is actually very annoying, if not down right rude..."  You are right on the one account.  She does have to change to see me.  Rude....I don't see it that way at all. Annoying....I can have no control over her feelings about that.  I was always courteous.

SmokerX 5689 reads
posted
15 / 46

U are not there to ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS----summe anything dearie. So, don't be an ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS-sumer ;)



-- Modified on 8/30/2003 7:06:36 PM

akitanuki 1 Reviews 4784 reads
posted
16 / 46

Most probably notice be don't say anything. I don't smoke and don't like the smell, but when I'm thinking with my little head I just don't care. If it bothers a client that much why should it annoy a provider that he makes sure she doesn't smoke before he books with her. What's the big deal?

singleton 5 Reviews 3936 reads
posted
17 / 46


saying that:

"some people Actually Enjoy Smoking, and dont Want to quit"

is a bit like saying:

some people Actually Enjoy shooting heroin and do not WANT to quit injecting it

BOTH are addictive, some would point out that nicotine is actually MORE addictive (it's true, a junkie withdraws in 72 hours, for a smoker it takes at least a week, and this is assuming that the smoker has gotten past the point of putting it down in the first place)

---

frankly, i've said this before on this board, but it bears repeating: i actually have MORE sympathy for the heroin/cocaine addict because at least his consumption of his drug-of-choice does NOT affect me, whereas a smoker's 2nd-hand smoke most certainly does. it INVADES my body, goes into my circulatory system and affects me physically, mentally and emotionally

a heroin addict, let's say a girlfriend on a date, who excuses herself to go to the lady's bathroom to shoot up her "fix", would only affect me EMOTIONALLY, since i don't have to suffer her affliction physically or mentally

but then, i'm not surprised by the lack of consideration smokers have for non-smokers. telling a smoker that his very presence stinks to high heaven, would be almost the same as telling a homeless person who reeks of urine and rotting flesh that he stinks to high heaven (neither is aware of their own odor is my point)

sorry if this all sounds too harsh and i fully realize i'm turning this into a mini-tirade against smokers but this is the way i am, AFTER 20 YEARS OF HAVING BEEN A SMOKER MYSELF! ... and sorry to say i have now ZERO TOLERANCE for smokers everywhere (for reasons which i just pointed out in the previous paragraph -- the most important of all)

peace

Blue672 3 Reviews 3319 reads
posted
18 / 46

...it is addictive and many find it difficult if not nearly impossible to quit despite the evidence scientifically documented that it can and does, in many instances, lead to lung cancer and contributes to other diseases such as heart disease and emphysema among others. My own mother smokes. My father used to smoke but quit "cold turkey" after seeing a physician because he could barely manage a single flight of stairs. The physician "tapped" his lung and drew off over a liter of fluid.
It took something this "attention getting" for my father to realize he was killing himself. It is the health issue that far more concerns me about smoking than any unpleasantness associated with taste or smell associated with smoking.

SmokerX writes: "As for me I am a smoker, and it's displayed in my TER profile, that I smoke but not with clients. 100% truth." As far as I'm concerned she has met her responsibility on this issue. Other providers would do well to follow her example.

Clients who choose to see only non-smoking providers have a responsibility to do their homework and choose accordingly. If a provider changes her smoking status as a result of resuming the habit and informs a prospective client I believe she has met her responsibility and if this becomes an insurmountable obstacle for the client then the rational course of action is simply to opt out on seeing the provider by courteously explaning that he has an aversion to the smell and taste of smoke and just moving on to someone else.

It usually is an exercise in futility at best to try and almost overnight "convince" a smoker to quit especially someone you do not know well. Even someone you are close to such as a family member can be a tough sell on quitting the habit. It may often take a rather frightening event such as my father's to get the attention of a smoker to actually get them to take action and successfully quit the habit and it may in fact be too late at that point. That doesn't mean that one should not be concerned about the detrimental effects of smoking. Smell and taste of cigarette smoke can be very unpleasant to some, myself included
but the bigger picture here is the dire consequences for the smoker's health and that of others exposed to second hand smoke.

SmokerX writes: "Just to let you know, I get more clients who don't smoke, than smoke who come in to see me." I think this is more probably the rule rather than the exception. I see a provider in San Diego who is a smoker. It is clearly stated in her TER profile. It's also stated that she does NOT smoke during sessions. She is well reviewed on TER and consistently gets 7's 8's and 9's even a few 10's on performance. I've read several of her reviews and don't recall anyone mentioning smoking or if they did it was just a matter of fact statement. No complaints of the smell or taste of smoke that I'm aware of.

If as a non-smoker I had decided NOT to see her because she smokes I would have missed out on seeing one of the BEST in San Diego and I believe there are others who would agree wholeheartedly.

Do I wish she didn't smoke? You bet I do but because I am concerned about the detrimental effects it may pose to her health. The unpleasantness of smell or taste of smoke pales in comparison to the health issues and I 've never been aware of the smell or taste of smoke when I've been with her.

Perhaps others are more acutely aware of the smell and taste of smoke. If that's the case and you simply can't deal with it then why pursue a provider who smokes?

I simply think it trivializes the real detrimental health issues surrounding smoking to make the unpleasant smell or taste of smoke the central point of the argument especially if the provider is up front about it. Failing to reveal a smoking habit would of course be another matter.

Just my .02



SmokerX 3505 reads
posted
19 / 46

I don't get a smoking room, because I cannot smoke in it. Also, I don't light up, until my client has gone.

Getting back to Singleton:  For one thing most of us smokers are very respectful in the fact that we will not light up in a prescence of a non-smoker. Please do not make us out to be a disrespectful group, for most of us are not.

sedonasandiego See my TER Reviews 4440 reads
posted
21 / 46

It certainly sounds as though you have covered all the bases in as many ways possible, and I'm sure your clients appreciate it.

bentley98 3254 reads
posted
22 / 46

believe, smoking goes through your pores. It can be smelled even through bathing, calogne, perfume you name it. The Tar can be tasted in your cum, spit and sweat. No amount of heathy eating or diet will change it either. And your frog deep voice can give a smoker away in a minute. Even your cats smell of it. Your car smells of it. Your lovely red hair smells of it SmokerX in Pasadena.  


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nj2 2599 reads
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23 / 46
singleton 5 Reviews 3523 reads
posted
24 / 46


i respect those who don't and appreciate their consideration for others

my point was that in my humble experience (IMH-E? ;-)  most smokers are either oblivious of their own offending self or simply don't care (some even revel in aggravating non-smokers -- which in their mind them "getting even")


3 weeks ago in the glass enclosure of my local bank (the ATM lobby) i told one odious man that he wasn't supposed to be smoking in there (clearly pointing out the no-smoking sign right on the glass door entrance) ... his response to me: "you fucking jerks are everywhere, i ain't gonna put out my cigarrete for YOU, i'm only in here for 2 minutes, so just deal with it"

it was only the presence of the surveillance cameras that prevented me from stomping his guts out ... and putting out his cigarette in his forehead on my way out

simonsaid 50 Reviews 4140 reads
posted
25 / 46

I've met several providers who smoke and I was only bothered by the smoke by one inconsiderate 'lady' who couldn't contol her habit and she's no longer on my list.

Plenus_Copulare_Anus 3250 reads
posted
26 / 46

"Getting back to Singleton:  For one thing most of us smokers are very respectful in the fact that we will not light up in a prescence of a non-smoker. Please do not make us out to be a disrespectful group, for most of us are not."

THAT is just about as far from the truth as one could POSSIBLY get!  "Respectful smoker" is an oxymoron with very few and far between exceptions (notice I didn't say without ANY exceptions.)

Smokers feel they have the inalienable right to cover our clothes with stink, irritate our eyes, offend our noses, damage our lungs, and further, cover our world with their cigarette butts!  And if we have an issue with that, well can just go someplace else!  I especially like how they prefer to sit and stink up the areas RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE DOORS anyone else might want to enter.  Further, they feel so strongly this way they almost invariably get LOUDLY ANGRY about you not wholeheartedly supporting their filthy, asinine addiction!  

You know what a smoker considers respectful?  NOT blowing the smoke directly into your face.  They think that by making the EXTREME effort to turn their head when exhaling, they are demonstrating HUGE 'above and beyond the call of duty' respect for a non smoker.  They also consider themselves SO VERY respectful if, after they throw their f*cking cigarette butt ON THE GROUND, they STEP on it!  Oh yeah, we should nominate them for some kind of environmentalist award for that kind of effort!  And the sad truth of the matter is, as rule, that IS effort for them since they usually just flick the butt into the road from the car window or, into the sidewalk from the doorway they are about to enter.

Oh, as for the exception to this rule:  I once had a roommate who was a smoker.  He would NEVER smoke in the house.  He would NEVER smoke in the car.  In the four years we hung out together, he never ONCE threw a butt.  And he NEVER smoked within 50 feet of me, always making a point to walk away and give me some space, even outside.  HE was a respectful smoker.  Well, there's ONE out of the THOUSANDS of smokers I've met...

singleton 5 Reviews 4209 reads
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27 / 46


cuz one can tell it like it is, without undue deference to civility and political correctness

thank you sir/madam/whoever for saying what i only WISHED i could've said

but then again, what was i thinking exercising my "restrain of tongue" when addressing a SMOKING provider who's hiding behind an alias?

kudos to you sir/madam/whoever, kudos to you!

LOL

SmokerX 2741 reads
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28 / 46
ImNotBlowinSmoke 4787 reads
posted
29 / 46

This demonstrates the attitude that somkers have.  You think you've covered tha bases and that your clients can't tell.  

Well I'm here to tell you that they can!  Period.  Perhaps not all of them.  My guess is that they either don't mind, or they decide to just not say anything about it.  

As for repeate clients; well, you porvide something they like, undoubetedly, enought for them to return.  Don't assume that just becase you smoke that you don't have a great personality, the woman I wanted the date with sure does.  And don't assume you don't provide excelleent sexuals survices as well, ditto for the woman I wanted, at least by review.

But you are only kidding youself if you think that you are successfully covering up to the point that all your clients can't detect something.  The chemicals are in you and it will take some time for the taste and smell to go away.  I have no idea how long, but is isn't in the range of one day that is for sure.

ImNotBlowinSmoke 5302 reads
posted
30 / 46

I agree totally with the other heath issues you bring up.  

I also agree that one has little chance on convincing someone to quit.  (I didn't try that with the lady in question, I mearly asked if it had happened yet.)  I do think that comments like this thread and from others does chip away at them.  I'd even be willing to bet that to some degree SmokerX has had some thoughts about quiting go through her head during this discussion.

SmokerX 3878 reads
posted
31 / 46

For one thing I never knew I had an "attitude". If I did, I would never recieve positive reviews. I am a nice person, so don't pre-judge me on the fact that I am a smoker. I think that some people are confusing smokers with being bad horrible people who should be burned at the stake, etc. Please, am I in no way a: pediphile, a rapist, a murderer, a bank robber, etc. I am someone who does pay her taxes, pays her bills, who is respectalble in the sense of not trying to offend other people. I look at it this way, if someone doesn't want someone who is a smoker, don't go and see her. Again in my profile, it states that I am a smoker who doesn't smoke with her clients. Yes, I do get clients who see me, which are non-smokers, and they are not complaining, for they come back and see me (yes, I do receive alot of repeats), so I don't understand what the issue is with me, in general. As a consumer, I would be very upset if someone says he/she doesn't smoke, but would be very upset if they did it. That I can see your point on. But, the fact that I do not deny that I smoke, and I am very upfront about it on my profile, there hasn't been any issues/complaints with clients (also for the fact that I would not light up in their prescence), infact the word "smoke" is not even brought up! lol He is too busy wanting to get his dick "wet", and I am there to comply with his wishes ;) In the just of things, we are both there to fuck and have a good time! :) That, I don't see anything wrong with at all.

Now that I said my piece, I am actually on my way out right now to go and wet my client's dick with both my mouth and my pussy, and this matter will not matter to me, in a moment or two. My advice for everyone today: go out and get laid!!!! :) I know I will be ;)

SmokerX 3748 reads
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32 / 46

But right at this very moment, I am on my way out to see a client, and all I can think about is fucking! lol ;) Speak to you later ;)

SmokerX

bentley98 4988 reads
posted
33 / 46

I have to agree with you. You loose your sense of smell so you can't tell. But it takes a few weeks for the effects to leave your body.

sexxygirrl 4123 reads
posted
35 / 46

I'd recommend a non-smoker hobbyist avoid going on an overnight trip with a smoking provider (if he wants a non-smoking room), if my civilian experience is typical. If she tries to refrain from smoking it's probably not going to be a pretty sight. :)

I used to have a boyfriend who smoked (my first smoking boyfriend); I'm a non-smoker. He was quite good about not smoking in my house and he really did try to be considerate around me.

The problem is we had to stop going on weekend trips because he got so damn cranky from not being able to smoke for several hours at a time (like while on a sightseeing tour of a city).

In the hotel room (a non-smoking room at his request) he'd start pacing, get rude and curt, and would have to leave the room frequently on little errands. It took me a while before I figured it out--he was leaving to smoke.

These weekend trips clearly showed me the true addiction of smoking---being cranky, antsy, looking at his watch and wanting to get away.

Once we went on a little hike. He didn't bring any cigarettes (because I guess he was embarrassed to be smoking on a nature walk, LOL). By the end of the hike I was ready to strangle him for being so cranky.

We broke up not long afterwards. His next girlfriend was a smoker, a better fit by far.

singleton 5 Reviews 5672 reads
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36 / 46


i'd never go anywhere without a bag of weed ... also never leave the house without your trusty sonic care toothbrush ... you never know when (and how) it may come in handy ... least of all when your partner's mouth stinks of cigarette smoke and you need to clean it before you mount it

InterestingWoman 3406 reads
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37 / 46

LOL...Bet ya'll didn't know a sonicare toothbrush makes a wonderful vibrator in desperate situations. Of course, my dear Singleton is privy to all my naughtiness. And my other boyfriend Bill is on the Oxygen network tonight at 10 p.m., Conversations with Carrie Fischer.

InterestingWoman 2334 reads
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39 / 46

Don't you mean sit on that frog's face, and I shall have my prince? He wasn't fat. Hey, at least he bought me a zoo membership.

book_guy 14 Reviews 3468 reads
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40 / 46

I took up smoking to counter the effects of second-hand smoke from the people I was hanging with, dating, hobbying with, etc..

Sad, ain't it? Now, really, I only took up the odd cigar, and regular tobacco pipe smoking (try it! it's much less addicting! a great way to wean yourself if you're concerned). But now I can handle the smoky rooms that used to give me bloodshot eyes. Now I can handle the ashtray breath, simply by having some of my own. I check with a lady, see what she's TRULY like, and plan my own habits accordingly.

Fine tobacco is one of life's best pleasures, if appreciated accordingly, despite its deleterious effects. Like a well-prepared but also high-fat, high-cholesterol, high-sugar French meal. In moderation, when valued properly, when taken with care, it's much better to know how to indulge, than to merely piss and moan about others who do.

Not that I defend cheap cigarettes -- that's like the McDonald's addiction most American fatties have -- but that's only a tangential issue.

elcamino_honey See my TER Reviews 4714 reads
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41 / 46

but reformed are so much more of a pain in the butt than never dids ;)

i know i smell like smoke, i try hard to brush and have gum or mints... but the way i see things is i am not misrepresenting myself, and if you dont want to be with a smoker, then i am not your girl.  (a lady who IS misrepresenting herself, i dont agree with false advertising and i feel some kind of action needs to be taken, at the very least altering that line in her profile)

but it isnt so much the Smoking that i was taking issue With... its the fellow who beat it right onto the ground that she should quit or he wouldnt see her.

like i said, there are at least 10 ladies for every fellow, plenty enough to choose from... if a guy really likes a girl, enough to keep her in mind for when she Finally decides to quit... isnt it kinda silly to alienate her by trying to make her feel shittay about herself?
'o yeah, bob... booked a date with me a month in advance then wrote every day asking me to quit smoking...'

i read the post and i just had to say something... sometimes it helps to hear both sides... maybe he can recognize the point in the mails that he became annoying and not do it to the next girl?

i'm ready to table this one...
Nic

loarthan 4 Reviews 4394 reads
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42 / 46

With a single future exception (based on a variety of things) I never see a provider that smokes.  Nothing wrong with someone that does, but with the number of wonderful non-smoking providers out there, why bother.

Provider X 3357 reads
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43 / 46

For those ardcent non smokers who think that smoking pot is the way to go for health reasons perhaps a lobotomy is in order.  The last studies that I saw indicated that one joint gives you as much tar as you get from a whole pack of conventional cigarettes.  And by the way you can smell the pot on someone's breath and in their clothing just like you can smell cigarette smoke.  The active ingredients in pot do not leave your system for many days just like those in cigarettes.  Otherwise some of the employer drug screens would not detect pot many days after you last lit up.

Frankly I could care less whether you smoke tobacco or pot but at least try to know something about your subject.

Godless Sodomite 3315 reads
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44 / 46

to cover your clothes with stink, irritate your eyes, offend your noses, damage your lungs, and further, cover your world with my cigarette butts.

In fact I make a point of the above whenever some smoke nazi walks 50 feet or more to point out to me that my smoke bothers them. That's when I light up 2 at a time and call for cigars.

Jesus jumped-up Christ on a crutch - will you people get a life? Ever think maybe some of your habits irritate me enough to want to choke you out on the ground? You people who insist on bringing your snot-blowing howling rugrats to a restaurant where I'm trying to enjoy the expensive meal I've ordered? You inconsiderate refugees from a cheap french whorehouse who stand next to me after dousing yourself with $.29 worth of $.50/gallon 'perfume'? You who haven't bathed in recent memory, or perhaps are just 'doing a little grocery shopping' after your 3-mile run and are gagging me at the checkout counter?

You've castigated us, taxed us and now you think it's open season. Tough shit - and god help the one who tries to make me put out my smoke after crossing the room to tell me about it, I'll stuff it up your extra-sensitive nose lit end first.

Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

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Smokers by definition are very dirty people. There is no such thing as a "clean" smoker. It would be like calling your barbecue grill at home "clean" You can scrub it all you want but all you have to do is light it up again and it becomes as dirty as it was before. Just think of it, every second it burns, the cigarette is pouring ashes into the ground, the clothes, the seats. And when it is all over, the butts end up all over the floor. The ones ending up on the ashtray or sand box look even worse because they are all clumped together. Then there's the smell. You just could not get rid of that nauseating smell. After leaving a casino in Vegas, you have to take an hour shower and dry clean your clothes just to get rid of it.

I drive a cadillac escalade. One day, I was at a gas station filling up when another escalade pulled up in the stall next to mine. It was brand new. The owner and I complimented each other's ride and he offered to show me the interior of his SUV. As soon as he opened the door, I almost barfed my lunch. There were butts all over the center console, and it was by far the worst smelling vehicle I have ever seen. I shook my head in disbelief. How could anyone do this to a 50 thousand dollar vehicle barely days old? But then again, these people do it to their lungs, and the last time I checked, God only gave us a set of 2 to breathe with for the rest of our lives.

Smokers breath is nasty and bitter. No amount of mouthwash can cover it. A lot of providers complain about clients with halitosis. This is no different. A provider should not have to put up with a smoking client and vice versa. No you cannot hide that smell from a non-smoker. Even the faintest trace will be picked up by us. The degree of reaction varies though. Unfortunately, I am one of those that are almost allergic to it. I get headaches and I start to throw up with prolonged exposure. If a provider is 10 in looks, she drops down to a 2 in my opinion if she smokes. The most pathetic, saddest image in my mind is a 70 year old woman strapped to an oxygen tank and smoking while playing the slot machines in a casino. I see a lot of teenage girls who are totally hot and sexy and think they look so cool while they smoke all their beauty and health away. Women by nature are very sweet and aromatic creatures whose natural scents are designed by God to drive us men wild and crazy with desire. Why any woman would stink themselves up on purpose is beyond me.

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