Ok, I'm new here.  I'm probably setting myself up for getting no appointments here by saying this, or maybe I'm setting myself up to get the kind of appointments I'm looking for- I don't know.  All I know is this:

Guys, if you want a real GFE, you have to have a real GF.  As in GIRLFRIEND(or wife), someone who has sex with you and only you.  It's not a real GFE, it's a paid date, first of all, no matter what you try to pretend.

Second- it may be sooner or it may be later, but you WILL catch something if you are giving or receiving oral sex uncovered and doing DFK, etc.  It may be chlamydia or ghonorhea that you can get rid of easily, or it may be more serious like herpes or even the dread HIV.  

All I know is that I cannot and will not put myself in that position, and neither should you if you care about yourself or the people who have sexual contact with you in your life who do not know about this "hobby" like your wife, girlfriend or even the people who live with you.  Say what you will, you know what I say is true.  I have tested negative every time and I don't intend to start testing positive for anything ever, and I hope you feel the same way too.

So if you still want to make an appointment with me for some good clean fun, I'd be more than happy to see you.  If not, that's ok too.  I know that some people may post negative statements to this, and I'm ok with that, but you should know that what I say is in all sincerity.

Joy

This is the strangest ad, I've ever read.

I think you need to read up on STDs a little more. It is extremely unlikely to catch STDs doing the things you have mentioned. And the ones you are most likely would get are easily cured. It's debatable as to whether there has ever been a case of HIV transmitted by receiving oral sex alone. If so, it is extremely unlikely. Even oral herpes, when infecting the genital region will only cause a single outbreak (if even that) and then lie dormant.

You are making a lot of assumptions here too. Not all of has wives or girlfriends or others we have sex with. And roommates/coworkers/casual acquaintances are not at risk of catching STDs through casual contact.

Hey Joy,

The point of the "GFE Experience" is to be a girlfriend for the paid time....no strings attached. I don't think the men of TER are looking for a real gf, just a fun play buddy. It should be fun for both parties involved.

So, you don't approve of BBBJ, that's totally fine. I respect that and I know other women do. Heck, I even understand that you choose not to DFK. But, you're having sex, right? Condoms could break, the man could give you a disease, all very possible things. Every job has risks, when you became an escort didn't you consider those risks? I get checked as well, but I give BBBJ. Does that put me at a greater STD risk? You bet it does. But, I enjoy giving them and I'm selective of clients I visit.

I'm sorry, "Good clean fun?" Are you saying you're not GFE and just play board games with clients? I'm confused and really want to get the point of this post. This is a buisness of pleasure. Being STD-free and "clean" is expected.

Thanks,
Anya

Popcorn sounds really good for dessert.

She could have saved a lot of time by posting her "ad" here that says....
Don't call me.....ever. My attitude sucks and I can't wait to lecture you.

There's still time to get the paperwork into the community college for the fall semester SweetHeart. Either that...or just post on CL for rent money.

In fact you sond like you have enough hangups already to be wife of the year!  Have you really thought about this line of work before you started?  Did you really ever start?  What do you consider good clean fun, sitting and chatting fully clothed across the room while he wears a condom?  If I did want to see you, do you provide the Haz-Mat suits?  Last question, Do you expect payment for all of the services you don't provide?
Remember, cash is one of the "germiest" items out there!  More chance of getting sick from it than sucking on a raw weenie!

I think you need another line of work.  Something with no physical contact with people.  Actually NO contact with people.
A crash test dummy comes to mind!

then you are at some risk.

The failure rate for perfect use of condoms is 2%...
perfect use means used correctly and used every time.

They get the failure rate from pregnancies that occur, so the rate could actually be higher and just not result in a pregnancy so not figured into the results.

So, statistically speaking, out of every 100 condoms you use 2 of them fails. (statistically so could be more or less) 2 out of every 100 vaginal "pops" results in  the same outcome as if one wasn't worn at all.  

This failure also isn't specifically speaking of breaking or slipping but semen getting into the vagina without necessarily anything noticeable happening.

The sexual activity with the absolutely lowest rates of all STIs?
Cunnilingus giving and receiving.

The group with the lowest rates of all STIs?
Lesbians

So, if you offer heterosexual covered full service you are actually at greater risk than I am as certified pussy eating lesbian. *grin*

...but then again, everyone in my life knows about my association in this hobby, so I always have informed consent.

My personal prefrence is to provide BBBJ most of the time, and CBJ if and only if I see something that concerns me. Yes, this puts me at higher risk than you, but only marginally.

I have many times defended a lady's right to stay within her comfort level, and provide only CBJ if that is what she feels more comfortable with. I completely respect your preference. It is after all, your choice.

Thank you though for your comments. But do please respect the preferences of others as they respect yours. Fair enough?

Lastly, don't for a minute imagine that providing CBJ relegates an experience to non-GFE. It doesn't. The keyword in GFE is EXPERIENCE. It is fantasy, not reality. If I were to be a girlfriend in fact, I would be telling my clients about my crazy Uncle and gushing about how excited I am for them to meet my family, while expecting him to take out the trash and change the oil in my car. I don't expect those things though because it is fantasy.

Nothing 'joyful' (or for that matter nice) in your post/ad.
Insulting your clients=poor marketing/you being poor

Meaning, if you're comfortable providing everything covered then so be it. But please don't play the mightier than thou role.

with a stupid idea in my head, GFE = STD and decided to troll.

Consider another line of work!

You are being a bit of a moralist and just so you know, having sex with multiple partners even with condoms, you are already putting yourself at risk for STDs, cervical cancer, and other problems. If you can't fathom the idea of being intimate with someone that you don't know, then why this profession? If you are successful at  what you do, great, but save your rules for the clients that hit your door. Posting here makes you a bit of downer and might be construed as negative in its own right. Good luck.

state what your services are, how you do them, and be yourself with each client.  I am not sure why all the fascination with this little "roleplay" behind closed doors.  Just agree on services and have fun.  No need for mind games.  You don't need to pretend to by my GF in order to be nice and pleasant with me.  I never had a GF jump up and get me a warm towel to clean me up.  LOL  It's just marketing.

Now, if it is an extended escort thing that includes activities outside the bedroom, acting as a real couple makes sense.

but the worst fucking ad I have ever fucking seen(that's for you MP67)

I am so glad the OP feels qualified to tell the rest of us how to conduct ourselves after all of five minutes in the business.

I have been involved in the "hobby" for much longer than it ever called the hobby. (35+ years), I enjoy BBBJ's DFK's and every thing else that goes along with what commonly goes with GFE and I have yet to contract even a cold from my literally thousands of interctions over the years.

I think Joy is a complete misnomer. While we are being presumtious, might I suggest you change your name to something more fitting like "suck the Joy right out of me" lmao

Let us speak of Joy
Of soft kisses
Hidden delights
Tinkeling laughter

Let us speak of Life
Of loud living
Experience
Regretting naught

Let us speak of Time
Seizing moments
Allocated
All too fleeting

Let us speak of Risk
lightning crashing
Huddled at home
Life never lived

Your joy, life, time, risk
State of being
State of loving
Does deadness walk?

Yes, everyone's comfort level is different, and no one should compromise theirs.  But I'm really at a loss as to what you expected to accomplish with this post!  

Happy Hobbying!

Many if not most of the hobbyists here will disagree that a GFE is still possible with only a CBJ being offered.

There is a disagreement here on who gets to define what constitutes a GFE, the hobbyist or the provider?

I don't care what a woman chooses to call her service, if her customers disagree, she can call it anything she wants, but her phone will stop ringing. Insisting that a CBJ can still be considered a GFE won't mean shit to a hobbyist that thinks otherwise. No offense, but the customer is the one that gets to decide what is or is not a GFE.

Great perspective.

Or did you just finish watching pretty woman and decide that you would be a call girl,after all Julia Roberts... much to everyones disappointment never so much as undressed ..
I would ask that the mod pull your post before the rest of TER sees it.

I think rather than a GFE, she is more like an "exwife experience" or even more accurately a "Motherinlaw experience". whichever it is, I can't imagine even the biggest Manginas here wanting to pay for it.

I have had some CBJ from providers that blew away (pardon the pun) the BBBJ competition, and I've seen an AMP girl with a HJ that is better than any BBJ I've had. Bottom line is, when it comes to BJ quality, YMWV (W=WILL).

That said, I agree with Sins wholeheartedly, and Gambler, both.

The problem is not that you want to be a "safety girl". It is your prerogative to conduct your business and access to your body as you see fit.

However, DO NOT fool yourself, as has been expressed here, that covered is completely safe. It certainly reduces risk, but that is all.

You state, "I have tested negative every time and I don't intend to start testing positive for anything ever". We all know there is only one way to achieve 100% safety. Keep your legs and mouth shut.

Many providers survive on CBJ. I can't speak to how it affects their bottom line, but as with all things here it is risk versus reward.

So if you're going to lose business, it won't be due to CBJ, and what goes into your mouth.

It will be because of what comes out of your mouth (when there's nothing in it).

I am just hiding out in a man's body. lol

I also doubt that there is anybody who knows me, that doesn't know about my hobbying as well.

Somehow the OP thought she could come on here with all of about five minutes worth of experience and tell those of us who have been doing this for decades how to conduct ourselves. lmao

I read the replies and thought, jeez, they are being really rough on her.  She should have posted on the Newbie board.

But I went back and read your original post and saw that everything from the title of your post to the tone of your language was presumptuous and closed minded.  You are a newbie and you are talking to us like you are our Grandma and we are all 4 years old.

I took apart all of your arguments in my mind but I'm too lazy to write it down right now.

You have every right to do what is comfortable for you.  I'd rather have a hot girl out on the market doing CBJ's than doing nothing.  The latter would be a sad waste of beauty.  If you have paying, loyal customers, why should you care what people think?  

Just don't tell us what to do like you write the rules around here.  

Oh, and here's some real math for you besides your silly "GFE=STD" equation:

GFE > GF

The safest way to go is to be celibate

The safest way to be is not be in a crowded place (like NOT living in a city) where you can get bird-flu, HINI virus, strep throat.  Live like a hermit.

The safest way to go is not to eat in a public place, so you won't get the ecoli virus, stomach flu, food poisoning, etc.  

I've seen how several people gets HIV/AIDS through Blood Transfusion. There is nothing safe in this world.  A close relative just had a headache and died of brain anyeurism.  An in-law of my brother just died of lupus.

Don't fool yourself.  You could die tomorrow from a car accident, not having enjoyed life to the fullest.

One word  KARMA .. that determines whether you get STD or not.  It's not GFE.

Hugh Hefner is enjoying the GFE with all his playboys. He's living a nice life.

http://christiancondoms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6

what is a GFE.  I see GFE advertised I think, she does what a girlfrind will.
GF's kiss WITH their tongues involved
GF's DO NOT slap a rubber on to suck your dick
GF's don't say "I don't allow more than 1 shot" if she happens to get you off in 10 or 15 min.

Now we can get into "it's the experience, not the sex"  It's the whole aura of being together, sharing the moment, yada yada yada.  And I agree that is part of the GFE, but when the sex part starts, don't be calling yourself a GFE if you won't kiss or try to pull a CBJ off.  End of story.

Ga Gambler hit the nail on the head, in this case the final judge of what is a GFE is the client, no matter what arguments the providers want to give!  The term is not over-hyped, but is often misused!

BTW:  Good job joyful, that was either the best female troll thread ever, or it was worst job of an ad I've ever seen.  Either way, you have made it to the top of MANY "must miss" lists!

Does that mean that with the exwife experience theres no hourly donation..you just get the bill at the end like a bar tab..

One before you start, which is the smallest of the three. The second right in the middle of the session, and the last one is the big one, Whatever you have left to your name is what she will want, plus attorneys fees of course. lol

Wow, what an outpouring.  Just to let you guys know, I did in fact book some appointments- with men who felt the same way as I do.  I'm not sorry to miss the appointments with guys who want to do things that are unsafe.  I'm just surprised at all the vehemence about something that is, in fact,  posted on the TER site- that uncovered oral is a risk for STDs.  I wish you no ill for your statements, I only wish that by me allowing you your point of view, you will allow me mine.  

As for being an escort, yes I love sexuality and enthusiactically participate, have multiple orgasms, squirt,  and cause my partners to have many orgasms in an unrushed manner.  Just because I don't want to be unsafe doesn't mean I'm prude!  LOL

Peace,

Joy

Let me make it crystal clear. As long as you do full service, you're NOT safe.

You're not being "unsafe" by being in this job.

You're kidding yourself on several levels!

This is a FACT. Condoms are not 100% guarantee for things not to happen. This is NOT a 'point of view' ... this is a FACT!