If the roles were switched how would you operate your business as an escort & if you were a customer how would you proceed with whom you choose to pay + share your time with?
Hobbyist & Providers feel free to play along its fun. I am curious to see if the men would be happy with satisfying multiple people on any given day, or would you be selective? Me personally if the roles were reversed I would prefer to play booking a longer date with 1 special individual who cares about herself & loves to entertain. I would not mind being screened, or supplying a deposit to reserve her time because her safety is a priority. I would choose an entertainer that shares my interests. I would do my homework & read her website + reviews to see if we maybe compatible.That if I became a sex worker, I’d go broke. Immediately. I’m too ugly. I don’t have the right disposition or people skills. It would be a total disaster.
It’s a job I cannot do.
First I would have to deal with the fact that my body can just sat NO and no amount of lube will help
Second, why would you think I could sell this, I have been trying to give it away for years... eventually you end up hiring somone to haul it away
Third idealy longer seletive dates are easier on the system ...though one marathon might be fun
And if they do, that is instantly a major red flag as they could care less about a women's safety. I think the issue is the method in which that screening is done and how intrusive it is. But guys don't get to make that call.
My problem with many in this business is all too often I feel it is portrayed as an "us vs. them" mentality rather than a "we" view of things. I try to view things from both sides, and make decisions that are best for me while making sure I dont trample on a providers rules or etiquette requests.
Deposits are a sticking thorn to be sure, but I don't think paying them, or not paying them, keeps a provider safe. It protects her financially, on that we can agree.
As far as role reversal, I dont know how you women do it at times. I am sure there are days when you are under enormous stress in your personal lives and yet you manage to screw a happy face on and have that unique ability to make sure the client that day isn't aware of personal issues you may be going through.
But like I said in another thread today, I have no problem if a girl shares some of her difficulties. It makes her more human, more real in a sense and plays into that GFE thing many of us want.
is a red flag, buy your simplistic statement infers that a monger must go along with providing any and all info that a provider wants, and refusing to do that is NOT a red flag if there are alternative screening methods that will do the job.
I have had success for many years using provider references only. Some ladies initially want more info, so I will wait 90 days, then contact them again and say, "I'm still interested in seeing you. Since our last contact, I have seen provider X and provider Y. Here is my phone number for ID purposes so you can contact them and ask about me." I have had many providers get back with me and say my references were good, so I don't need to provide anything further. If it doesn't work, they will never get my business.
Do you really think there are providers out there who are really disappointed that they "missed out" on getting you as a client? Is this a joke? LOL
I have numerous posts on this board stating people have to do what they have to do to protect themselves, be they girl or guy. For example, yes I give deposits. Do I give them to just anyone? Certainly not. Would I tell anyone here to send a deposit? Of course not. I stay in my lane.
No gent is obligated to give all the info a certain provider wants BUT he should never contact that provider to begin with. If she asks for too much in his opinion, he can just move on to someone with less intrusive methods. He should never haggle about her terms for things she needs to keep her safe. That is just boundary pushing.
Now, if a woman is very vague, that is a different story. For example, I have seen some ladies websites say they ask for "standard screening" and dont have a form to fill out, just an email addy. I have no idea what that means as there is no standard imo, so if interested, I will ask her to be more specific.
so I will respond to you instead. I never haggle, I make a counteroffer. They are different. By blindly accepting whatever a provider tells you, you will undoubtably miss some opportunities. There is often a difference between what they WANT and what they NEED to feel safe. If you can make it easy for them to accept an alternative to intrusive personal information and still get your business, many will go for it, but it has to be solid references of well-known providers that they can look up themselves. Even MissS admitted she will sometimes accept references. It just depends on how good they are. You can't just give them a phone number and say, "call this number and ask for Candy, she'll give me a good ref."
Said by no decent client/person ever. That is a distinction without a difference. You don't "counteroffer" something a girl feels she needs to protect her safety!
This is shocking that I even have to tell you this. You are pathetic.
that you hve not yet discovered that in ANY business deal, there is always room for negotiation. If she wants to double down on "her way or the highway," she loses the money I would give her and from countless others who have the same attitude I have about overly-intrusive screening. On the other hand, if we can work together like most savvy business people do to find a way in the middle that insures here safety and allows my privacy at the same time, it's a win-win for both of us. Yyou can't see that because you can only this the potential from the viewpoint of simps and suck-ups who were trained as puppies to roll over and play dead. In my business, I make and receive counteroffers every day. It's how you get things done in the real world by people who are serious about growing their businesses.
Not having you as a client is *NOT* a loss.
EOM
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Scarlet
not have me as a client is sour grapes, because you know you have no chance to get my business in the first place. It's like me saying I have DECIDED NOT to date Taylor Swift.
Even though your rates are lower than Kgirls, I would rather pay a little more and be assured of getting good service with a full GFE menu, including DFK and BBBJ. Even with your low rates, the simps that post here are not rushing to see you the way they have a few other girls who started posting here. That doesn't make for a very good impression on a review site, does it?
He claimed to ALWAYS negotiate. Then again, he also claimed to run a university that taught mongering. Were you on the faculty?
with Jack. I'll take that as a quasi-compliment. "Quasi" because I know you didn't mean it as one. Lol
However, I believe Jack only negotiated price, I mostly negotiate screening requirements. I will never mention price unless a fellow monger has told me that a provider dropped the price for him or that her rate structure is fluid, which invites negotiation.
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You are right, I was accepting references. But unfortunately you as well as your dishonest cronies have really opened my eyes as to the lies and deceit that are used to see a provider by "mongers" of your very low caliber. I very well may no longer be accepting them because of things I have seen posted on this boards by yourself and others. That is actually exactly what I needed to feel safe in my profession, so thank you for opening my eyes to the disgusting nature of this industry's underbelly.
"I very well may no longer be accepting them . . . ." tells us nothing about whether you do or don't accept refs after you said you did on another thread. Are you announcing in THIS post that you NO LONGER ACCEPT REFERENCES FROM ANY CUSTOMERS FOR SCREENING? It's a yes or no question, no need to continue to be duplicitous. (Duplicitous is another word for untrustworthy, just so you know).
shows that YOU have become a troll here. You throw out an ambiguous statement that contradicts what you said a few days ago about accepting references for screening, and try to make your policy about ME, when you know for certain you have no hope of ever getting me as a customer. Maybe others already knew you're a troll and that's why you have no reviews from mongers who post on this board?
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I wouldn't have a problem paying a deposit or providing any screening info, if I feel that the provider is trustworthy.
Here's the paradox: How do you know that you can trust a new provider with a deposit or screening info, until you've spent time with them. And, how can you book a session, until you've paid a deposit or handed over your info.
It's a puzzle.
I’ve been around for a very long time & considered myself very trustworthy.
to be trustworthy, but that is really a decision that is arrived at by others who interact with you. it's more a "once you get to know me, I think you will find me trustworthy." See the difference rather than making a declaration about yourself that others may be suspicious of? Otherwise, it's kind of like a 170-pound woman saying she considers herself slender. That can only be universally true if she is 6-foot-4.
Well I think you can gage a person's trustworthiness by her reviews and board posts. If in pages of reviews no one mentions deposits being stolen or info leaked then it's probably not happening.
YOU can gauge another person's trustworthiness based on multiple criteria, but THEY cannot gauge their own with any credibility because their own assessment is self-serving. One of the best examples of this is when a con artist looks into your eyes and says, "Trust me." It's used in a mocking way in movies and on television all of the time.
Seems like the crux of the matter to me. In the beginning we all start with a rather large level of uncertain information about who we're interacting with.
Over the last 30 years since I started Escorting (I was eighteen and a half when I started). And I always believe that both clients & Providers should give feedback on each other for the simple fact that we need to allow others who have not dealt with those people know what is what. For example..........I want all of my clients to put in the God's Honest Truth, but still give me another chance for improvement. Plus Clients need to understand what a Provider goes through when the Provider is trying to make money tax free. It's gotten harder now that the cops are really pushing against the Providers to stop. And if it was not for the guys who wanted sex more then getting paid to have sex then this type of work would never be in affect.
If the roles were switched, I would rather have a Sugar Momma than see multiple clients. I don't need too many fancy things to keep me happy. If she has a good job and looks decent and can take care of me, I'm good. Medical insurance and a retirement fund would be important too. I would be okay with her being the BOSS so to say, since that's how it works when she is bringing the sugar. I like the idea of this type of arrangement more than seeing so many different randoms.
That said, if I couldn't land a Sugra Momma, I would probably prefer 3-4 clients a week max, and prefer longer engagements. I would offer package deals to entice clients who are willing to come back and see me more often.
If women were as willing as men to be clients, I don't think I would have a problem bringing in business. I would be much more in demand when I was younger. But even now, I'm just a few visits a week at the gym away from being a good draw. And, if this were my line of business, I am sure I would find the time to make this happen.
They are satisfying is a man or a woman is none of my business...am sure you get the drift.
If I was a male provider however I would see WOMEN ONLY, the more the better, but I would screen stringent to avoid crazy boyfriend, std"s etc. Actually if they are nice with big boobs (size C and up) I may give some free dates. And if they are healthy I may just add icing on their cake (if you know what I mean).
On a serious note thought, I think women clients are easier to dealt with except for the bitchy ones . Peasing a woman sexually ,especially orally is something many of us men are lacking. So I would have to learn the art of cunnilingus, because she is not gonna pay to fake an orgasm.
Frankly, I don’t know how you ladies do it, that is, have sex with “all comers” as long as they pass screening, are clean and respectful, etc. If I were a male escort, I could only see women who are HWP at least, along with the other usual requirements like cleanliness. And at my age, I’d be the “low volume” type, i.e. a few longer (2+ hours) sessions per week.
But all of that is moot. If a woman wanted to pay good money for a male escort, she could find all kinds of younger men who could go all night if she wanted to.