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Ad space is limited, and providers, obviously, don't want to disclose a lot of "personal" information.

However, times are changing. For me at least, there are reasons why some information about who the provider is would help potential clients make a wiser, more compatible choice of who they choose to share intimacy with.

As always, a lot of hobbyists don't care much as long a woman is hot, available, and affordable. And some providers feel that too much information would only have an adverse affect on their market share. So I guess this suggestion is targeted toward the small group who actually concern themselves with such matters.

First, I often see providers claim that they are "well educated." This suggests that additional pleasure is in store in the process of getting to know them. But wouldn't it be more interesting to know what field(s) of study they are "well educated" in? An encounter with a woman knowledgable in finance would be a quite different experience than a woman with an advanced degree in Botany, Engineering, Theater Arts, Psychology, or Neurobiology. I would like to know where their intellectual interests and talents lie.

Also, I have had a couple of negative experiences because of severe differences in matters of political and spiritual beliefs. One woman was a born-again evangelical type, which was a definite misfit with my own sense of spirituality.

Another told me after I arrived that she not only was of a much further right political persuasion (albeit primarily because she didn't like the idea of paying taxes, nothing more sinister), and since this was an over-nighter, it was uncomfortable. Many providers don't think much about politics, and that's fine, but if they have strong leanings either left or right, it would be good to know beforehand. Though I and probably many others might pass by some ladies because of their political stance, others would be that much more attractive.

It's not uncommon to employ an escort as a trophy date to, say, a red and white, where some social interaction with acquaintances might occur, and it can be embarrassing were she to voice religious or political views totally inappropriate for the situation.

Even taking a date to a basketball game or a theatrical production could be problematic if she knew nothing about what she was experiencing, and great fun indeed if she was well versed on the game or the art.

Nowadays, harmonious co-mingling of the two major parties in this country is becoming more and more problematic, and humanists involved in the arts and the sciences are finding it harder and harder to enjoy the company of people outside their circle.

I would like to hear what others have to say on the issue of what providers ought to disclose about who they are in these and similar areas.

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Of course, if you'd like to get to know the real me, I will share my opinions with you. But I try to be pretty..... what's the word I want to use here.... Hm... I guess I try to take your cues and be what you want me to be. I look at "my job" as being not just for your pleasure physically - but mentally as well. So if you bring up religion and you are a Christian with strong views- I will smile, nod. Not say much and probably take the conversation AWAY from religion. Same thing with politics.  

I guess with some of the friends I've grown close to, I share my real beliefs with. But this isn't going to happen the first or second time we meet. And if you bring me to an event, I am definitely going to avoid these kind of topics. I would never want you to go back to work or where ever and have them talking about me. I'm very good at placating. Ive done it all my life. And I guess I view my job as way more complex than just your blow up doll. I think I have to- to remain positive.  

I like to think that you come to see me because you are missing something somewhere in your life. And you come to me to fill it. And in order to be good at what I do, I have to be able to take those cues from you. I don't know if other ladies view it the same way- and they probably don't- but that is how I view it. :)  

Just my .02$ for what it's worth....

 
J.Love

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Posted By: Jamie.Solo
Of course, if you'd like to get to know the real me, I will share my opinions with you. But I try to be pretty..... what's the word I want to use here.... Hm... I guess I try to take your cues and be what you want me to be. I look at "my job" as being not just for your pleasure physically - but mentally as well. So if you bring up religion and you are a Christian with strong views- I will smile, nod. Not say much and probably take the conversation AWAY from religion. Same thing with politics.  
   
 I guess with some of the friends I've grown close to, I share my real beliefs with. But this isn't going to happen the first or second time we meet. And if you bring me to an event, I am definitely going to avoid these kind of topics. I would never want you to go back to work or where ever and have them talking about me. I'm very good at placating. Ive done it all my life. And I guess I view my job as way more complex than just your blow up doll. I think I have to- to remain positive.  
   
 I like to think that you come to see me because you are missing something somewhere in your life. And you come to me to fill it. And in order to be good at what I do, I have to be able to take those cues from you. I don't know if other ladies view it the same way- and they probably don't- but that is how I view it. :)  
   
 Just my .02$ for what it's worth....  
   
   
 J.Love
That's fair. You are apparently one of those women who approach your craft as an art in itself. I'd like to think about what you say some more before responding, so until I come to some conclusion I will only say point taken and thank you for your sincere response.

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If you gave a general hint before hooking up, you might book longer sessions with those who respond and more repeats. I tend to repeat with those who are of like minds, or even with those who disagree with me on a lot of things as long as they have an interest in the same topic. Just saying...

But thank you. You probably stated how a lot of providers feel, and you might well be right. You know your market and I only see it from the outside.

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First, I generally have gotten to know the women I book with prior to our first meeting. This occurs through board postings, email and PM. So I've already gotten a pretty good feel for their personality, and will have a good sense for our compatibility.  Note that I probably won't have a good feel for specific believe like religious or political affiliations. But this doesn't really bother me because I like getting down another layer when we meet.  

Secondly, I like to be intellectually stimulated, so a good debate is often fun for me.  The key is me not taking myself or my position too seriously (which I don't), and the provider not taking herself or her position too seriously. When that happens, all is good. And a good disagreement, again as long as neither party is offensive or easily offended, can be a lot of fun and VERY sexy :)

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Reading your post I am aware that it's likely that I might take some of my views TOO seriously. Maybe I should work on lightening up some. The emails and such are indeed a good way to answer a lot of these concerns. I guess I sound out a lady I've never met the same way through the flirtation process. I've canceled a couple of times when the feeling went sour, but when I feel it's going to be a good fit, the anticipation grows tremendously (rimshot).

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Would be information that you would discover on a first appointment or even after a few appointments.  I don't see any woman getting in to political or religious views in an ad or even here on the boards to be honest.  Of course, I wouldn't think that those views would need to be in the forefront of conversation during an appointment unless one of you was crazy enough to go there. If she goes there she's not a very smart provider (no matter how well educated she is) and if you do it's just asking for trouble.

I've known my ATF for almost seven years and we've never talked religion or politics, not even on the several 2 or 3 day weekends we have spent together.  Honestly, I would NEVER book an overnight with a woman that I hadn't already met and felt some compatibility with beyond enjoying each others sex organs.  Just way too risky.

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Clients' desire to know ahead of time if we are compatible takes a backseat to my privacy. I don't even show a single photo on my site, except to verified clients.  
 
I lie about little things in my bio...where I'm from, what I do for a living...to put some distance between my stage name and the real "me". So that if my family/friends/coworkers ever read my site again, they won't be like, "Wow, that really sounds so much like [[my name]]."
 
I lie to clients a little (not the ones I trust) for exactly the same reasons...some of those little details I told former clients made their way into reviews and even board posts, and that made plausible deniability pretty much impossible when my cover was ultimately blown.
 
I'm sure I make less money than I would if I were more forthcoming about interests in my personal life...especially those that I'd likely hold in common with prospective clients. My website bio is all of two paragraphs, and I'm sure that seems inadequate to some.  
 
BUT there are some clients who understand why I'm so private...and it seems to resonate with them. They WANT to see a girl who has a life to protect, and isn't hanging it all out there so that she can get the maximum possible amount of 30-min quickies.  
 
I AM well-educated. However, I don't say anything of the sort on my website. I let my writing style and presentation - both on my site and in emails - make that statement for me. Personally, tho...my field of study has nothing to do with my real-life interests, and I can't see any point in stating it on a website (or anyplace else). My line of work is very nerdy and would not be interesting to most people. My passionate interests ARE more relatable, but, as I said above, they'd make me very identifiable were I ever to be outed again.
 
Put yourself in our spot. How would you feel if [[insert provider name here]] posted that she'd seen WickedBrut, who lived in XXX town and had a sailboat docked in XXX, who'd just returned from XXX country, and brought a bottle of his favorite wine, XXX, to the date? You'd probably not be able to sleep.    

I will say this: I will speak with verified clients at length about our common interests, including: literature, music, work, etc.  

This is tg_baby, btw...deleted my old password by accident, so now I'm stuck with this name...it's the only account I can access. I created it to poke some fun at Udo and now I suppose I'm just Voo-doo forever :-(

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So I'm not sure they'd be all about banging a pinko on the reg.

That said, if someone is a social conservative (or has any inkling of homophobia/racism/misogyny), we're not going to get along. So I'll go on record now and say that if you aren't down with the queers, I want nothing to do with you or your dick.  

Maybe I should put that last bit on my website. Hmm.  
Posted By: WickedBrut
If you gave a general hint before hooking up, you might book longer sessions with those who respond and more repeats. I tend to repeat with those who are of like minds, or even with those who disagree with me on a lot of things as long as they have an interest in the same topic. Just saying...  
   
 But thank you. You probably stated how a lot of providers feel, and you might well be right. You know your market and I only see it from the outside.

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And yes, an overnight with a first date is a little risky. I was aware of that at the time, but thought that the risk element made it more exciting. So, I went into with my eyes open, and knowing that it would be whatever it turned out to be. So I can't complain.

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some things are just none of your fucking business.

You over think this.

you aren't looking to date her you are spending time with a companion. One who curtails her personality and her views as to be attractive. My political views or anything else controversial would be held out of our conversations.

find someone fun sexy and hot and get freaky get laid and go back to your own life.

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If you added that response to your sie, it would tell me all I need to know.

Jamie.Solo See my TER Reviews 890 reads
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I definitely perceive my duty to be more than just making you get off and get out. Of course, that is all some want, and for those that is what I give. But for those who want more- I definitely try to be more for them. I guess I kind of look at my job as a form of therapist. I wasn't able to really put the approach into words, until I saw American Courtesan. There is one part of the movie, where one of the ladies is talking about her client that was sick in some way- and that the other ladies (I guess she worked at a Brothel) Made fun of her for it, and she said no- she took it very seriously, because he couldn't get that elsewhere, and that she really made love to him. That is where I draw my inspiration from. I guess its because I come from being a sugar baby to doing this. And my relationships with my various sugar daddies were very deep and complex.  

And it isn't every friend I make that I get to be like this with, but when I see someone is looking for it, I give it to them. I think in this very superficial world that we live in - the little things are the ones that count. Because I remembered you said you were celebrating your birthday and got you a card, or I remembered you said you like a particular red wine, so I buy it before you stop by. Those are the tid bits that allow me to stand out in your memory and make you want to see me again. I definitely prefer to make lasting friendships over one time meetups. It's just me though- I'm sure some ladies are the opposite.  

So now you have my .04$

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Seeing your pictures and reading your reviews I'd still see you if you had a swastika on your panties and quoted from "Mein Kampf" all night!

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I'd call up my fellow class mates from grad school.  
Unfortunately none of them are good looking enough for me to sleep  with.  They are also much older now,  nerds,  and out of shape than I'd prefer.  

I could care less about a providers education, where she traveled,  or how classy she claims to be...   Unless she's occasionally willing to travel to Greece,  the South where the sun don't shine,  or is classy enough to enjoy a Pina colada cocktail.  

:D

 

 


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Good $.02. I read that and you kept my interest. I'd be happy to read any bios you write. ;)

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Accurate photos,  menu, and body size are all I care about,  At least for initial visit.  
Once she becomes a favorite then I start getting more interested in her thoughts likes favorite sports what she does for fun etc.  

I have no interest in politics even ttho I'm in politics capital DC.  
Even though I studied about the origins of the universe,  I have no interest discussing philosophical stuff during the session.  

 Unless we are having drinks off the clock lo

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To me that swerves it into the realm of art. Therapy works too. Beats a shrink. Like music lifts my mood more than antidepressants. Anyway, you benefit in your approach and no doubt receive more than material gain from your giving more than... Whatever. I like your approach.

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There's two ways to look at what is personal.

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is often a recipe for disappointment.

There have been a few occasions where some gal(s) put on her site that she was a grad from a "well known" university, and upon uttering a few sentences most come clean with me.  Why?  Because that facade can't be maintained.

If a gal is going to post on her site that she's a right/left wing, what possible upside is there in alienating at least half of her potential dates?  I hear that you just like to debate politics...but to pay a hooker to give you a BBBJCIMNQNS followed by a serious debate on ACA is simply not credible.  Why not troll the Universities and find some gals with a political science major and take her to dinner?  Maybe she'd actually be a fun person to babble with...but the hooker has virtually no upside in arguing this position.  Assuming of course that she is seeking an LTR with the john  LOL

FWIW I've got more than my fair share of gal pals from this world.  Many I don't play with, and in that case they are much more open to babbling about their preferences on issues.  There's no reason to be so concerned about how I might react since they aren't going to lose me as a john.  And in those situations where I've known gals for many years where it is a P4P as well as OTC, it's taken some that time to actually be comfortable enough to know I don't have a problem with a disagreement.  But that is with gals I've known for years...not a couple of sessions or an overnighter.

If what you are seeking is a serious type of play...you're on the wrong board.  There are other discussion boards where the gals, who I believe you are seeking, tend to post on.  This isn't one of them.

As well, many of those gals are quite UTR.  But probably would give you a serious experience that you appear to be seeking.  I also trust that cost is not a factor  LOL
Posted By: WickedBrut
Ad space is limited, and providers, obviously, don't want to disclose a lot of "personal" information.  
   
 However, times are changing. For me at least, there are reasons why some information about who the provider is would help potential clients make a wiser, more compatible choice of who they choose to share intimacy with.  
   
 As always, a lot of hobbyists don't care much as long a woman is hot, available, and affordable. And some providers feel that too much information would only have an adverse affect on their market share. So I guess this suggestion is targeted toward the small group who actually concern themselves with such matters.  
   
 First, I often see providers claim that they are "well educated." This suggests that additional pleasure is in store in the process of getting to know them. But wouldn't it be more interesting to know what field(s) of study they are "well educated" in? An encounter with a woman knowledgable in finance would be a quite different experience than a woman with an advanced degree in Botany, Engineering, Theater Arts, Psychology, or Neurobiology. I would like to know where their intellectual interests and talents lie.  
   
 Also, I have had a couple of negative experiences because of severe differences in matters of political and spiritual beliefs. One woman was a born-again evangelical type, which was a definite misfit with my own sense of spirituality.  
   
 Another told me after I arrived that she not only was of a much further right political persuasion (albeit primarily because she didn't like the idea of paying taxes, nothing more sinister), and since this was an over-nighter, it was uncomfortable. Many providers don't think much about politics, and that's fine, but if they have strong leanings either left or right, it would be good to know beforehand. Though I and probably many others might pass by some ladies because of their political stance, others would be that much more attractive.  
   
 It's not uncommon to employ an escort as a trophy date to, say, a red and white, where some social interaction with acquaintances might occur, and it can be embarrassing were she to voice religious or political views totally inappropriate for the situation.  
   
 Even taking a date to a basketball game or a theatrical production could be problematic if she knew nothing about what she was experiencing, and great fun indeed if she was well versed on the game or the art.  
   
 Nowadays, harmonious co-mingling of the two major parties in this country is becoming more and more problematic, and humanists involved in the arts and the sciences are finding it harder and harder to enjoy the company of people outside their circle.  
   
 I would like to hear what others have to say on the issue of what providers ought to disclose about who they are in these and similar areas.

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I don't want to debate, I just get the creeps screwing a woman who in another setting would usher me into a gas chamber.

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you won't find many of us who are down with queers other than the guys who like trannies. we don't hate them, we simply don't think about them. we look the other way and to each their own but if you expect us guys to cheer on the gays, you probably should hit a gay bar instead of ter.

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We'd see eye to eye on many issues.  Perhaps we will discuss them one day.

But be careful on these boards openly advocating for homsexuality...seems that really scares a shitload of the boys here  LOL

Isn't "queer" a term that most over 50 would say?  Or has it come full circle again?

If you're going to put anything on your website...I vote more hot pics.  And leave out some of the other "odd" stuff that many here also don't understand...I like that stuff but many are afraid of it.  Amazing how vanilla so many folks seem to be.
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
So I'm not sure they'd be all about banging a pinko on the reg.  
   
 That said, if someone is a social conservative (or has any inkling of homophobia/racism/misogyny), we're not going to get along. So I'll go on record now and say that if you aren't down with the queers, I want nothing to do with you or your dick.  
   
 Maybe I should put that last bit on my website. Hmm.  
   
Posted By: WickedBrut
If you gave a general hint before hooking up, you might book longer sessions with those who respond and more repeats. I tend to repeat with those who are of like minds, or even with those who disagree with me on a lot of things as long as they have an interest in the same topic. Just saying...  
     
  But thank you. You probably stated how a lot of providers feel, and you might well be right. You know your market and I only see it from the outside.
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it sure beats telling us it's none of our fucking business which doesn't give me goose bumps all over.

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and she turns into godzilla-ess? I like feisty women but when they go BSC over an innocent comment, it's time to run for the door. fast!

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OK...here's YOUR OP.  Lets' look at it together.

Why do you need to know about their academic prowess if you aren't going to discuss something along those lines?  Seems like that is important to you...and that's fine.  What am I misreading?
Posted By: WickedBrut
Ad space is limited, and providers, obviously, don't want to disclose a lot of "personal" information.  
   
 However, times are changing. For me at least, there are reasons why some information about who the provider is would help potential clients make a wiser, more compatible choice of who they choose to share intimacy with.  
   
 As always, a lot of hobbyists don't care much as long a woman is hot, available, and affordable. And some providers feel that too much information would only have an adverse affect on their market share. So I guess this suggestion is targeted toward the small group who actually concern themselves with such matters.  
   
 First, I often see providers claim that they are "well educated." This suggests that additional pleasure is in store in the process of getting to know them. But wouldn't it be more interesting to know what field(s) of study they are "well educated" in? An encounter with a woman knowledgable in finance would be a quite different experience than a woman with an advanced degree in Botany, Engineering, Theater Arts, Psychology, or Neurobiology. I would like to know where their intellectual interests and talents lie.
Your next paragraph seems intent on knowing her religious beliefs or that might put a damper on your session.  If she's busy sucking and fucking...I do expect her to call my name (that would be God or Jesus) once in a while.  If she's a Muslim or Buddhist...why would you give a rats ass.  But apparently you do.  So what am I misreading here?
   
Also, I have had a couple of negative experiences because of severe differences in matters of political and spiritual beliefs. One woman was a born-again evangelical type, which was a definite misfit with my own sense of spirituality.  
   
 Another told me after I arrived that she not only was of a much further right political persuasion (albeit primarily because she didn't like the idea of paying taxes, nothing more sinister), and since this was an over-nighter, it was uncomfortable. Many providers don't think much about politics, and that's fine, but if they have strong leanings either left or right, it would be good to know beforehand. Though I and probably many others might pass by some ladies because of their political stance, others would be that much more attractive.
   
Now you are babbling that she should know your favorite sport...and I can surmise also your favorite team.  Maybe she'll just give you a fucking BBBJCIM while your team is on a power play?  Who gives a shit what she knows, or doesn't know about some sporting event.  Which part of this am I misreading?
It's not uncommon to employ an escort as a trophy date to, say, a red and white, where some social interaction with acquaintances might occur, and it can be embarrassing were she to voice religious or political views totally inappropriate for the situation.  
   
 Even taking a date to a basketball game or a theatrical production could be problematic if she knew nothing about what she was experiencing, and great fun indeed if she was well versed on the game or the art.
   
Well Brut...looks like you are seeking a gal that is much more than just some random hooker.  They are out there, but you need to expand your horizons.  Good luck in your search.  Did I miss anything here?
Posted By: WickedBrut
I don't want to debate, I just get the creeps screwing a woman who in another setting would usher me into a gas chamber.

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Thanks!  

If you enjoy what your doing, the other person will too. No doubt. :)

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And I prefer to see the real woman, not a facade.  I'm not expecting you to be my SO, but I would like to have you really present and not some act that you think that I'm looking for.  This isn't just an anatomy exercise, your brain is your largest sex organ, too.  I'd like access to that, for a short time.

The best providers that I've seen have always been ones that provided more than a good fit physically.

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I'll take a wild guess and say that you didn't discuss homosexuality  LOL

But my post just under yours is for folks that are intolerant...perhaps like you?

How pissed would you be to find out that some of the gals you've reviewed are total lesbian?  I'm guessing that you would be one pissed off dude.  Maybe not...and you just are suggesting that you aren't into boys.  

And that is what I took from Tobi's post...nothing more  ;)
Posted By: Stimulate_This
you won't find many of us who are down with queers other than the guys who like trannies. we don't hate them, we simply don't think about them. we look the other way and to each their own but if you expect us guys to cheer on the gays, you probably should hit a gay bar instead of ter.

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ah, I totally agree.  It's none of our business.  

when I first started out in the hobby some years ago I had this dreamy picture perfect image of what a perfect escort would be and I was very  interested in all those personal things about the providers I was seeing.  But after seeing a few providers,  that interest in their personal stuff dwindled exponentially,  and my interest in finding out how good of a head they give me grew exponentially. Some providers don't want to share too much of their thoughts anyways.  

That doesn't rule out provider client friendship though. If the provider is a friend then I naturally develop more interest in them,  as friends.  I think the best way is to just let the relationship develop naturally not try to pry it.

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And keyword = boys. Men are secure enough that they can advocate for the gays and not feel like their own sexualities are being threatened. Anyone who is turned off/scared by my queer advocacy can suck my proverbial dick, because I'm not gonna be sucking theirs. The queers are my life.  

As for "queer," that has become the new umbrella term for anyone who falls under the LGBTQQIAAP spectrum. It's more commonly used in the academic sphere, but I've been seeing it branching out more and more.  

Luckily Megan Love is meeting up with me in Chi for some sexy new pictorials. And speaking of Chi, I do believe you and I have a lunch to arrange?
Posted By: ChgoCPA
We'd see eye to eye on many issues.  Perhaps we will discuss them one day.  
   
 But be careful on these boards openly advocating for homsexuality...seems that really scares a shitload of the boys here  LOL  
   
 Isn't "queer" a term that most over 50 would say?  Or has it come full circle again?  
   
 If you're going to put anything on your website...I vote more hot pics.  And leave out some of the other "odd" stuff that many here also don't understand...I like that stuff but many are afraid of it.  Amazing how vanilla so many folks seem to be.  
   
Posted By: BadCollegeGirl
So I'm not sure they'd be all about banging a pinko on the reg.  
     
  That said, if someone is a social conservative (or has any inkling of homophobia/racism/misogyny), we're not going to get along. So I'll go on record now and say that if you aren't down with the queers, I want nothing to do with you or your dick.    
     
  Maybe I should put that last bit on my website. Hmm.    
     
Posted By: WickedBrut
If you gave a general hint before hooking up, you might book longer sessions with those who respond and more repeats. I tend to repeat with those who are of like minds, or even with those who disagree with me on a lot of things as long as they have an interest in the same topic. Just saying...    
       
   But thank you. You probably stated how a lot of providers feel, and you might well be right. You know your market and I only see it from the outside.
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And eventually he'll find that what you wrote here is the best possible scenario in this world.

As I wrote (and echo your comments) finding gals to really open up is generally not something that most in P4P have a serious interest in.  The gals that I find interesting are those that somehow hit a button on me.  But that is only after many times being together in different situations.  Many I have never had any interest in knowing better.  Simply they just weren't a fit in anything more than a BBBJCIM session.

But you've been around long enough to know that some johnnie boys are looking for their soul mate here.  And it does happen.  Usually with the frequency of winning at Powerball.

Hopefully Brut will use other channels to see if someone hits his buttons so he doesn't waste a moment with someone who isn't the debater or philosopher he seems to want.  And maybe if she can hit a curveball that would put her over the top?
Posted By: Drunken Asian
 
 Yeah, I totally agree.  It's none of our business.  
   
 when I first started out in the hobby some years ago I had this dreamy picture perfect image of what a perfect escort would be and I was very  interested in all those personal things about the providers I was seeing.  But after seeing a few providers,  that interest in their personal stuff dwindled exponentially,  and my interest in finding out how good of a head they give me grew exponentially. Some providers don't want to share too much of their thoughts anyways.  
   
 That doesn't rule out provider client friendship though. If the provider is a friend then I naturally develop more interest in them,  as friends.  I think the best way is to just let the relationship develop naturally not try to pry it.  

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Well educated with honors...  
Anything with the word Cum in it.  Lma

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Intolerance has been a part of humanity since the dawn of man.

I'm not too sure that it's a whole lot better today than 5,000 years ago.

Hopefully in another 5,000 (and lots of education as that is the ONLY way to eliminate ignorance) years there will be no intolerance.
Posted By: RodTidweLL
He's going to have to learn at his own pace. At one point in life I thought like him and friends and family changed my way of thinking. He'll change or the world around him will.

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If Brut likes my political views he may want a lunch with me.

That'd be OK as well  LOL

As for the world changing "slow"...my observation is it hasn't changed at all with regards to tolerance.  So "slow" isn't the adjective I'd apply to this.
Posted By: RodTidweLL
Wow are we agreeing on something. Are we besties now!  Lol.

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None of the info I used to share was very personal...just average conversational stuff I might bring up with any random acquaintance.

But on our end, there is a serious downside to sharing any kind of information...no matter how innocuous it might seem, it could eventually bit us in the a**.

There are guys who seem comforted by a girl who is more cautious in that regard...mostly newbies or infrequent clients, in my experience, because they can best relate to the worry we have about being exposed.

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a cost of doing business. No girl thinks she will ever be exposed when she enters this business....but I actually know more women who have been 'outed' than haven't.

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All I want is the Standing O when I'm done and it's all good !!

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"Well educated" is a term, I admit, that grates on me personally. This is because nowadays, a lot of people get degrees primarily as work papers. Maybe you feel it's snobbish to think of education as providing a broader understand of such outmoded things as what was once called the humanities, cored with some particular interest, a science perhaps, education, or even one of the fine arts. In days of yore, people used to get such degrees, and with studying these fields came particular ways of seeing the world. Granted, a pussy is a pussy is a pussy and a pussy by any other name is still a pussy, still, even on an hour blow 'n' go it can be sort of nice feeling some like-mindedness with your partner. But today, "well educated" applies to anyone who can balance their checkbook and read a loan application. There are still a lot of people who seriously study a field with the idea of going into it and actually doing something. Is there a difference between someone who has studied pharmacology and someone who has studied history? In my book yes, and I would feel more comfortable with one than the other. True for everyone? Maybe not. I know very little about pharmacology, and as such could not discuss it to any meaningful degree. If it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. If it does, it does.

Today, religion has polarized the country to an absurd degree, and those who are religion-free are targeted by both extremes.

So when it comes to babbling on about my favorite sport, that's of little interest to me personally because most providers would know enough about it to serve as arm candy were I to take them to a game and expect them to enjoy it at least a little. Other men might be more concerned about the issue.

So am I seeking more than a random hooker? In a way. We're not gutter crawling our daddies' ho'stroll. We're spending bigger bucks and we're able to be more selective. It's a more interesting game today. Unfortunately, the temper of the times is changing too. There are people out there that I don't want to associate with, even for quick fuck, and who don't want to associate with me. There are people who are very hostile, compared with even a few years ago, and I like to like the women I get off with. Call me crazy.

So yes, to me and I think a few others, it matters. If not, then you're lucky. Look at it that way. It's a dartboard. You can't go wrong. Any moron who can spread as easily as Jiff is as good as the next.

Forgive the babbling, Shakespeare, this is all a rough draft.

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half of the ladies would dissagree with my opinions on politics.
Yet if the topic never comes up, it will be completely irrelevant, have no impact on our time together.
If a lady is so strident with her opinions that she feels the need to publically state them and is on the opposite side from me, then no, I won't consider pursuing a date with her.  Absolutely no reason to.  Especially, when she uses loaded language in judgement of those who may be on the other side.  Too many great ladies I can see and have a wonderful time with, without the initial bad vibe.

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And I really don't want to go into it again. Just take my word for it, there are ways to express who you are without telling people anything about your family, career, home life, or anything else you want to keep private.

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Whether they AGREE or not isn't the issue. That the topic doesn't come up doesn't mean it's not there, not a factor. In normal times there is no reason (or less of a reason) why it should be of any importance. We're not living in normal times, and as a very brilliant playwrite once said, "Things will never get back to normal."

It won't matter until it does.

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I've always felt that the best writing includes lots of tangible details rather than abstract statements. For example, "My most recent trip was to XXX country where I challenged myself to an adventure trek. Past destinations have included, XXX, XXX, and XXX, where I served as a XXX for three years." rather than "I am well-traveled." Or, "I cycle 10 miles along the Pacific coast daily and am a four-year student of XXX type yoga" rather than "I exercise regularly and keep in good shape"

I try to stay away from "well-educated" and "well-traveled" after having heard both of those phrases ridiculed on the boards...lol.  

I can convey a general sense of my personality, but I'm not listing ANY (accurate) details about my life, career, hobbies, or education. Yet unfortunately, it's usually the details that catch a client's attention.

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Well, when it comes up in the context of how they choose to present themselves then it could be an issue to me.  Maybe this wouldn't be relevant to you.  Your call.  I work and socialize with people with all different kinds of opinions, including long term friendships with those with different political opinions. We respect each other and mostly stay off those topics.  If I can manage to stay off these topics with such friends I've known for years - not to mention with most every other person I encounter during my day - why shouldn't I have the expectation that I could avoid potentially contentious subjects in a two hour play date?  This is supposed to be all about FUN.  Now if I'm pursuing a serious relationship with a lady, then yes, of course I'm interested to know what she thinks about anything.

if someone has such strong opinions that they can't contain sharing them on their site - then this tells me they might not be able to resist this during the session too.  I'm just not interested in that.  And yes, especially if those strident opinions are in opposition to mine.  Just too many other great ladies to consider who don't put such an emphasis on their personal opinions

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So I don't bother getting into political arguments with them. Don't get me wrong, verbally debating a woman is a real turn on, but I know the ladies take it more personally and get out of the mood.

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You could start a new on-line service to match up providers and hobbyists similar to E-Harmony or Match.com.

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I've benn toying with a similar idea; sounding out a couple of providers and masseuses on ideas for a different kind of meet and greet. I picture people of like mindedness gathering to just mingle and chat over complimentary wine in a large rented space with a few planned activities involving improvised "games." Abstract sound-and-movement encounters (both group and 1 on 1), mutual non-sexual massage, trust exercises, and tarp or tent private rendezvous spaces where they can talk and get to know each other, as well as group activities and non-talk expressions. No nudity, but sensual. Phone numbers and email addresses would be exchanged, hopefully, and arrangements made of whatever sort they wanted.

The challenge is how to get beyond existing circles of friends and bring in new people without a lot of screening and explains what the evening is about. It would be more like a theater experiment, with an overtone of innocent play. The idea would be to maintain a primmarilt heterosexual group and not allow an invasion of LGBT guests to totally hijack the evening. At the same, too much control would kill the be-what-it-turns-out-to-be flow.

Believe it or not, this presents more barriers to break down than I anticipated. And even renting space... A church basement?a community room? A theater on a dark night? It's far more complicated than it sounds.

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