So why are more and more providers establishing 2 hour minimums? Hmmmmmmmm can we say "mercenary" boys and girls?; Sure we can. I just got finished reading the rates page on a lady visiting LA and she coyly states "1/hour - Sorry; Not enough time to have fun". Just yesterday I had a favorite lady of mine who has great reviews tell me "there is nothing sexually to be accomplished in two hours that couldn't be accomplished in one" (Except possibly the collection of twice the money eh?). If you ladies REALLY and TRULY feel two hours or more are needed for a proper GFE then reduce the cost of the subsequent hours that you are forcing us to pay for.

 No one knows more than I that it is "All About The Money" but does it have to be so friggin obvious.

  Cm.

I am sorry, but how are ladies forcing you to pay for more than an hour? The way I see it is, you have a choice! You just need to find a lady who is starting off at 1.0 hours and stick with that.

If all you are looking for is to get laid, why are you spending time with someone who offers GFE.

Save your money and find a SW, pay $20 and get laid.

Quit bitching about the ladies that want more than just a quick F$%$.

I enjoy the extra time and don't spend the whole 2 hrs. or more, having sex.
I like the snuggling time, the talking time, the non-sexual time.

It still amazes me that there are guys out here that just don't get the concept.

All they can do is complain that "she's to expensive". "It's all about the money", well, it sort of is, as this is a job for them. But alot of the ladies at least want to try to make it as memorable and enjoyable as possible for their clients.

Give them a break, and maybe you need to "grow up" and get real.

Just my opinion...
B

I prefer at least an hour and a half and I state that in my date request form, but it isn't about $ for me.  

An hour feels so much like I have a number system attached to my back "NEXT" LOL

Very few can pop twice in one hour, most can in an hour and a half or 2 hours.  

Advise on lasting longer:  When you're urinating, try to stop peeing mid-stream.  Keep doing this and you should see a dramatic increase in staying power.

If you're using Viagra, you last longer and can usually cum twice easily within an hour and a half or two hours.

If you have time or budget constraints, it's best to find someone who offers that option rather than gripe to those who don't.

...there are advantages for both provider and client.  The ladies get to sustain their income by seeing half as many guys.  For many guys (me among them) I like more than an hour - at least with someone I've seen once and I know has passed muster.  Nothing worse than being stuck paying two hours for someone who turns out to be a ditz brain.  Hey, I wish I could get the same money seeing half as many clients.  The thing I've found about the 2-hour rule is that's its bendable in most cases.

minimum. Afterall, how long are lunch hours? LOL

My thoughts about it weren't so much about the money (my 2 hr rate is priced to encourage that choice) but about how the time is spent. You spend a fair amount of time getting relaxed and acquainted, munching on some hor d'oeuvres, drinking some wine, etc. and that doesn't leave enough time for the gentleman to find his pace without stressing about the time, particularly when you'd like to have more than one cup of coffee.

Cynicalman, you can continue to be cynical, but not when your imagination and level of understanding is so shortsighted that you can't see that many ladies prefer the 2 hours to the gentleman's BENEFIT (however they should price it accordingly also).

Then, time is also spent on the 'wrapping it up' time - another shower maybe, gather up the belongings and all the adieu stuff.
No one wants to feel that they are just a 'one hour girl' and the atmosphere is a 'wham bam' - trust me, those girls who do burn out quickly because of how the one-hour appointments make them FEEL. It puts a whole different spin on it, and a lot of being a Provider is mental, therefore whatever a lady can do to protect her mental outlook will have her be a better Provider as well as one who can endure.

On the other hand, I really enjoy the one-hour appointments for incall, and for repeat clients, wanting to accomodate their work schedules and family shedules. No need for the extra time for someone you already are familiar with.

And that you practice and ballance the bennifits of BOTH multi and single hour appointments gives credibility to your words.

  I will always value your counsel Sedona

     Cm.

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I never book a one hour appointment. I do my research carefully, and when I decide to see a lady I pretty much know what I can expect. Frankly I don't like to be rushed, and the total experience is more meaningful than just a wham....bam...thank you mam!! I also tend to repeat with the ladies I have seen, because the experience is more comfortable, as time goes bye....as the song says. I agree with Sedona's take. Gents choose well, and make the experience and the time worthwhile.

Some of us do not care for volumn.  We want to enjoy our time with a few select men, who know and/or learn how to fully enjoy US.

Back to the original post -
"most women say that men finish too quickly"

(ahem)

Yes, there are benefits to the men (at least those who choose to meet me) in longer appointments.  I REQUIRE 90 minutes to meet new friends, not two hours, and the extra time is crazy discounted... I strongly encourage the longer appointments even for returning friends.
Why?
There's nothing "too quickly" about meeting me... you're not leaving until *I* am finished as well...
; )

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This guy 'Cynicalman' has really hit it "ON THE HEAD" and looks as though he has quite a few people revved' up on this board. Yes, it is only so true that many men get off much quicker then an hour and YES many women are now quoting 2 hour minimums on their rates.
YES, we all have choices and that is what establishes the better sessions from those that are JUST mercenary. I see very few 'new' ladies as I find that a one hour visit is great for the first time, and depending upon this, will dictate whether or NOT a repeat visit is possible.
YES, it is always about the money, whether it be mine or hers(her needs) and it is always a business and we can't expect anymore to develop and IF anything does, so be it.
I say let those that feel they need to quote longer terms and prices go right ahead.............even though I agree completely with Cynicalman in his beliefs.

Savage

When I first started hobbying, I always booked for only 1 hour.  Partly it was a money issue and it was also time.  I figured I could cover everything in 60 minutes.

However, now I vastly prefer multi hour dates and almost always book those.  It allows you not to be in a rush and get very comfortable with each other.  My last three dates have been dinners.

Just one man's thoughts and experiences.

if guys didn't try and take advantage of my time, by staying over and not wanting to pay for it.  If I kept it to just one hour and ended the appointment at the agreed time, then someone would complain that I'm a "clock watcher" and not offering a true GFE experience.

There are many out there who will stay way over the time and not want to pay for the extra time you gave them.  Even with the two hour minimum, people still stay over the agreed time. I know I need to be more strict about it, but when one little asshole can ruin your business with a bad review you tend to let things slide. It's a situation where a few have ruined it for the rest.

Just my two cents

I had an "opposite experience" a while ago- asked for a multi-hour appt (I like to take my time), but was told that on the first appt, only an hour was available.  Went elsewhere, needless to say.

The 2 hour minimum is simply a marketing ploy that ladies use because they can get away with it.

If they are not getting the required number of 2 hour appointments, they will quickly switch back rather than starve.

The nice thing about this hobby is that the women are allowed to ask for anything they want, but we are not forced to see them. There are always other great women who are more in line with what we are willing to pay.

I may be old fashion, but I still like the intimacy and the foreplay, which is difficult to acheive in an hour. Anyway I'm one of those guys that likes to take my time with the ladies. I can hold off for an hour or more if I put my mind to it. So it is obvious that I really enjoy the two hours sessions.

Additionally I have limited my hobby down to two ATF's., who I see on a regular basis, I enjoy them both so much I normally pay for two hours and barely stay more than 1 1/2 hours depending on my schedule. It may be AATM, but more importantly is AAYC (All about your choices).

Sedona my dear, you have nailed this one down.  Excellent thoughts.  You also "walk the talk" or "practice what you preach."  Your 1 hr rate is reasonable but your 2 hr. rate is a bargain for the gentlemen.  Wish we lived closer.

A rare treat; someone who understands the art of 'customer service' in the hobby. Thanks for a winning attitude. Post your link for future reference. I travel.

You have a fantastic attitude and it shows in your posting and retrospect from your webpage and what you offer. I too for one wish we lived closer together as I would love to cum together with you.......Well at least for one hour...maybe longer..lol.
Your Savage

This is why I don't have hourly rates. One rate, makes life simple.

Here's one for you free of charge: "Gosh, I was having so much fun with you, where did the time go?  You know, I would love to stay with you the rest of the night but I promised my friend I would meet her in 30 minutes and I have to start getting cleaned up now."

You can even mix it up a little...
1) Replace "Gosh" with: "Holy crap!", "Jesus, Joseph, and Mary!", "Son-of-a-bitch!!", "Ay Carumba!".

2) Replace "I promised my friend I would meet with her" with: "I have an appointment to see my gynocologist for a routine vagina checkup"

-b