So you are saying that if YOU cancel on me, you still want a 50% deposit to keep me from doing the same to you??? Good luck with that, I think I will pass.

Just in case you missed it the first time I said it, my time is every bit as valuable as yours, truth be told, my hourly rate is actually higher than yours. So if you cancel on me, I am actually out more money than if I cancel on you, but it you can get morons to put up a fifty percent deposit to book your time, more power to you. I guess your pussy must be THAT good, or the guys that book with you are THAT pussywhipped. Either way, good for you, but I will still pass on any woman who requires a deposit for any session that does not require her to lay money out of pocket just for that particular client.

I've been noticing more ladies putting in a cancellation policy an additional fee. So if a guy cancels on them they need to pay an additional 100 on a reschedule.  Or there is a deposit required and if the guy cancels she'll keep the deposit. I'm not opposed to this necessarily.  It makes sense since while you canceled she could have been earning money with another client. However, what I don't see in the policy is what happens when the lady cancels. In cases of deposits they will often just say they'll return the money. However wouldn't it be more fair to say they will take off that same amount on a reschedule?  Just seems like a more equitable arrangement. Just stirring the pot here on a Saturday.

Etc. If it's an Incall cancellation. Otherwise if the guy got a special hotel just for the occasion, outside of his normal arrangements, I.e. travel, does seem unfair.  

CXL policies also, I would think, deter shopping around.

but by that line of reasoning the lady/s are self employed as well, so why should the cancellation be any bigger a burden for her than for me/you?

My point remains that if we are going to look at this strictly from a dollar and cents standpoint. My time lost by traveling to a lady's incall location only to be cancelled on technically costs me more money than if I cancel on my one hour appointment.

Now I will concede that if the lady gives me notice of the cancellation BEFORE I actually leave to come see her, then no harm no foul IMO. but the same could also be said if the guy cancels with advance notice, so once again we are back to square one, with my time being every bit as valuable as hers.

Truth be told, I run into cancellations in both my "real" life and this one, and I take them all in stride as long as my time is respected and there is no NCNS involved. What struck me as a bit one sided was her statement that even if she were the one who canceled, she would still charge a 50% deposit on an hour long appointment, and I think we are in total agreement that the chances of either one of us complying with that "request" are well below zero percent.

However, how can it be enforced? If a guy cancels, he simply does not reschedule, and if a lady cancels, she doesn't rebook the guy.  

And since there is no legal recourse or CC info passed, it seems it is on a good faith basis.

I would prefer to have more time than a reduced donation. So I'm perfectly good with this type of arrangement.

As I've said many times, I have to be away from home for two days to see any provider in the nearest metro area.

I had one cancel on me just two hours from the time of our date. I'd already shelled out for my hotel for my overnight stay, had gas expense, food, etc. She offered nothing.  

I'm too much of a newb to know that some sort of compensatory time is common in the business.

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And more than likely can work out a schedule at anytime we like...the cancellation by a gal is not that big a deal for me, nor likely you.  

I've never had to cancel on any gal, and outside of something truly extraordinary I can't picture that day happening either.

As for the gal(s) that wants a deposit...I applaud that.  And you know as well that there are plenty of dudes who cough it up.  We often read their complaints right here on these boards when the gal disappears with his money.  I would never advance a gal money...ever.  And I don't believe I'm in the minority on that either.

I've also had a few gals do the cancellation on me.  No problem as I was able to reschedule around her availability.  Odd how that seemed to work out so well...to say they appreciated that would be an understatement.  I can see how a guy who has a very small window might not be as understanding, or flexible.  

I was thinking of adding a cancellation fee to my initial inquiry....but I suspect that would be as ludicrous as the cancellation fee a gal posts on her website. -- Modified on 1/4/2014 1:47:34 PM

absolutely nothing, I think it's a great way to approach things

I wonder if it's a byproduct of men canceling, treating it more as a smart viable business or executing power.  

Personally I don't have them since it adds a burden to me. If I cancel and you give me another chance you can bet I'll make it up to you. If you cancel and want to try it at a later time I'll give you another chance as well. You're free to cancel even up until the first few minutes if I'm not your type, since it's my right as well, just be a considerate adult and we're good.

I had a provider cancel on me when I had already arrived at the destination. "family emergency".  She said she would make it up to me. i was thinking some extra time. Nope. She was going to give a 100% effort! Oh boy.  Seems to me for $$$$$ I'd expect that.  

Like "scarring" you.

sorry, that one was too easy to pass up. I might be an asshole, but I rarely get pedantic, that's Nicky's job.

I have never lost a single dime by giving one.

See how well this works?

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I value my playtime & always look forward to it, but keep in mind I am very low volume too!

I have only had 1 guy cancel & it was for a duo with my twin.  We drove out to LV from SD & he had got bit by a spider that was an emergency, which resulted in a hospital stay.

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And a heavy TER board presence  LOL

Of course MP is low volume.  There's only so many that would even consider a deposit with any gal...let alone one that has a VERY limited offering.  I'll defer to those who like her look as well  LOL

The good ones don't need to go that route.  They know how to screen well.  

And I am with you as well...never lost and never will lose a single dime as I won't even consider a deposit.  Oh well...I guess MP won't see me.  Next  LOL  

Had to check her profile. Who believes this chicks BS? CBJ warrants a deposit? Really? And I bet her dates are all of the 'extended variety' right? Uh huh.............

I don't see any ladies offering sessions on credit.

Long appointments made in advance. Tours can be scheduled and pre advertised, etc.  

If a guy seems he may be BSing or not too serious, that's also a good way to weed some out.  

If a provider passed up two 2-hr appt's She may be out out 1,600 while waiting on one 4 hr appt. Who cancels. She pays for the room, so probably out a total of 1,700-1,900 depending on time of day (mid day or evening,) and expenses for travel, hotel accommodations, and whatever else she spends to make that appointment happen, including screening.  

Some of us decide who and how many we see based on budget and bookings. So if she's going to have a longer engagement one evening, she may not take other appointments for that day and/or the next because she's made what she needs. (Or plans on it.)

So, in essence, a $150 cancellation fee or a $500 deposit lost by a guy who cancels a 4 hour appointment really still leaves a provider out 1k - 1400.  

(This is just an example based on a mid range low volume provider who, again, schedules based on her budget/goals.)

Oh and better yet. Deposit gets you no Greek. Priceless.

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My time is money. If  you think it isn't your kidding yourself. I have no issue with a cancellation fee or lost deposit if I need to cancel less than 24 hours notice, but I have a huge issues with anyone I hire thinking their time is worth more than mine. That said the extra time is valuable and would work to show you respect my time. Just know time is money.

My cancellation policy doesn't compensate me for my time.  It only covers the cost of the expenses that I incur to reserve a space to host our meeting, reserve travel accommodations to a trend our meeting, etc.  I don't live in a private apartment in Midtown which I use as an Incall 24/7 as many guys seem to think.  I have a full personal life which I love, and to disrupt my personal life to make myself available to spend time with gentlemen who I don't know, is an endeavor that costs money as well as large amounts of time.  The reason it makes sense for providers to have a cancellation fee, but not clients, in terms of the client-provider relationship, is that the cancellation fees we charge are associated with the fact that we are handling the business end of hosting the meeting.  Also, this is our livelihood.  Not our hobby.  When I attend an event in the city for pleasure, and upon arriving discover that the event has been canceled without notice, that sure is a frustrating experience.  I do feel infuriated for having my time wasted especially given that my job has taught me how much time = money.  But that doesn't change the fact that everyone has their time unfortunately wasted in their pursuit of pleasures.  When my time is wasted by a last-minute cancellation, the fee I request is not to compensate me for my time but to cover the expenses of the non-refundable arrangements I have made to host our meeting.  I can't force anyone to send the fee, but it seems fair to me to ask the gentleman to cover at least part of the cost of the Incall rental if he is the one who decides to break our appointment with too little notice to cancel the reservation.  If I have to break our appointment on short notice, then I have to cover the cost of the non-refundable Incall myself.  The cancellation fee is not about compensating for lost time, it's about the resources that a business has invested in preparing to provide you the services which you have requested.  IMO, my least concern when I get cancelled on at the last minute is what other money I could theoretically have been making at that time.  My concern is usually, "Wow, now I still have to pay for this Incall and spent all that money on transportation which means this whole situation not only wasted 4 hours of my time but also cost me $150."  So the cancellation fee is like, basically a request for a gentleman to please make good on covering the resources expended to prepare to meet his requests.  Not some sort of assertion that a provider's time is somehow worth more than a client's time.  At least that is my relationship with the "cancellation fee".

My first P4P was when I was the ripe old age of 15, I am about to turn 55 in a couple of weeks, and yes you are an "older"provider to me, as I prefer women in their mid to late twenties.

and I am also old enough, not to mention smart enough to NEVER send a deposit to a hooker, even a rather hot one, with good reviews such as you. Even if you are a bit old for me. lol

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about some guy pulling a NCNS. Do you know why more women don't require deposits? Because they are afraid of the business they will lose by doing so. If they were sooo concerned about having their time wasted, they would do just that because that would END this deal period. Sorry, but whn a guy sends a deposit (even only 100 bucks) you can bet your ass come hell or high water, he shows up. I have NEVER had a guy cancel on me since requiring a deposit... never. I can't count the bogus excuses for cancelations when I did not require one.  

I will NEVER waste a second of my time on someone who can't even part with 200 bucks in case HE has to cancel on the hooker he happens to be paying to get him off, but who becomes nothing but a hole to fill when a cheaper option happens to show up in town.

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There are horror stories on both sides to justify our behaviors. It's worth bearing in mind that the transaction is completely based on trust. By and large, we'll only have an email, phone number, and a fake name for one another. The arguments about the cost of each person's time are a push. Even if I didn't earn more an hour than most providers, it wouldn't make a difference to how I analyze this. My title suggests where MY business bias lies. One generally does not prepay for a service, especially if there a chance of taking a loss on bad goods (an inventory thing not a comment about providers).

Like any reservation based business, like a fancy restaurant, a provider can do what the market will bear. If someone really has to see you and doesn't have a hard rule, he might put a deposit. Your deposit policy will be consistent with the volume and income you like to have.  

For me, I see people with 500+ hourly rates and i've never been asked for a deposit. Then again, I'm a business person who keeps all my appointments unless I modify them well beforehand. Even in emergencies. I start from a hard rule of no deposits then make very few exceptions.  

Again, seems like a topic where it's pointless to convince people that one's policy is right. It's right for the individual or else he/she would change it.  


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I don't know her business, how much she gets, charges, etc. but like her, I would never put 'trust' in the unknown again. You can't screen "My wife came home, and I can't make it... sorry you spent 500 on a fkin suite just for me, but see ya." Women who require deposits know we are losing business because of it, but we are sure as hell not losing time and money with the guys we actually want to see. At 500 plus, yes I would always suggest getting a deposit if that guy was the ONLY one she was seeing that day. Not all of us have a list of clients we can just call up when one does not show up... we simply do not operate that way. We are generally seeing only a couple guys a MONTH, not a week or a damn day for sure. If someone cancels on us, we can't just 'make that money back' the next day. Get real. If I wanted to be begging and high volume, I would still be offering an hour and using BP.

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rarely post AT ALL on TER or any board for that matter... they are also all above 600 per date.  I do agree that if you're constantly begging for business in every city and on every board, a deposit might not be the best option, but you certainly won't catch me or the women I referenced doing that. When you market yourself as exclusive and elite, the very last thing you're going to do is beg a guy to see you, look at your vagina, etc. It makes you look desperate to do such things, which kills the very brand you're trying to hard to convince everyone is so great.  

I knew I would lose business when I raised my rates, stopped touring, working late nights, early mornings, and weekends, when I pulled all nudity off the web, required 3 day's notice, and password protected my site... it's no shock I do not see many gentlemen, nor do I want to. Those days are over, which is why I made so many of those changes above. Then again, most of my changes were made for more discretionary reasons.  

I would imagine most women are smart enough to know they are going to lose a chunk of business by requiring a deposit, but I also think most of them want it that way, save a few examples lol.

Few gals go that route...and the ones who do are not terribly interested at that moment in expanding their close circle of friends.

Cancellations are a part of life.  However with good screening that can be minimized as you well know.  While never 100% fail safe...seeing anyone here is a gamble.  But if a guy has a history of that shit, why even waste a second on that guy?  Your solution is to get something in advance, and when they won't on to the next inquiry.

As I suggest...that model may work for some...but not most.

Frankly the gals in the seriously high ranges don't need those deposits.  Seems an oxymoron  LOL   Maybe because those gals have developed a routine through contacts and screening to weed out the window shoppers?

Sure wouldn't want to see gals trying to get those deposits....not end up with enough jobs to cover the rents and such because of the lack of interest.  Shit....then a gal may be doing what MP does, and that's a real shame  

Guess what... when I started asking for a deposit (knowing I would lose half my business) being the Marketing and Economics fan that I am, I upped the fkin rate lol. So you see... I lost VOLUME, not CASH ha ha. BTW, I would never do the cancelation policy thing, because I find it to be more time wasted and a pain in the ass. You still sat there for however many hours waiting on some guy who never called, then you have to basically make a threat to blacklist him if he does not pay it. No thanks. Pay me upfront for what I am about to spend on YOU, or move along.

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I know I have...as well as many others as well.

Heck, even LR babbled that she was changing her deal for a variety of reasons.  Works for her...but won't work for many others however.

What I've always found interesting is the gal(s) that moves her rates towards the stratosphere....usually seems to coincide with a SD.  And of course a few months later she's back here and scrambling to make rents.  Changes up the fee structures, board presence and such.

But I've also seen quite a few gals start at the beginning and learn how to create for themselves what worked best...with a serious plan on how to get there.  It's been quite entertaining and interesting to see that work.  Not a whole lot different than watching any smart business(wo)man work the deal.  But alas, that is not the norm.  Most seem to wander through HookerLand aimlessly.

Inventory...on open account?  Try getting a container from China without an LC.  LOL

If I recall your old rate was 700/2 and now your rate (on TER anyhow) is only 1000/3.  If you lost half your volume you won't be close to making that up with your current rate structure.  But that's the accountant in me  LOL

Your changes were due to your new employment...as you told the board.  Most gals are in here full time.  That methodology just won't hold true for most full timers here.

As always...each gal has her own agenda.  Whatever works is the best deal for them.  Rarely is it best for everybody.

I just tossed in the dinner for free basically, because you know that's how I roll, so NOW any guy booking 2 hours for 1k can get up to 4 for the same rate. Just call me smart.  
 

First you can't lose more than $500 on a  $500 appointment unless your working at a loss and I doubt many providers are doing that. $800 loss on a $500 session that was missed is pure BS. Now you can lose out on the cost of prep items:,room, and goods purchased exclusively for said session. Now if the lady has other clients that will or have used the room the room isn't a loss just has reduced productivity same for any goods that can be used with other clients.   But let's say your cost for a room and trav for a client is $250 for a $500 session (which is high given many business models and needs trimming) you can loose that cost but that is the top amount of actual loss. Now the loss of  potential income  is real but it is for the client as well. Time is time and time is equally valuable to all as 24 hours is all any get in a given day, though some are able to exchange it for more. So your real loss is $250 (but only if he was the only if he is the only client that the room was rented for) and the time you lost which you put a value of $250 on as that was the amount you was selling for $250 as half of the money was for the room. So total value of loss is at most $500 of which only $250 is actual dollars loss.

Now we established the max loss to the lady for a $500 dollar session is $500. Now let's look at what the guy looses. First he likely had travel costs simular to the provider, as not all sessions are incalls so he could be out the cost of a room, and he is out the same amount of time. Now the amount the client could have traded said time is variable but as time is time the loss is equal and we valued the.ladies loss as $250. Your time is not worth more than your clients and of course his time is not worth more yours. So the real difference is actual real costs if the guy is getting the room his loss is greater than the provider but if the provider is getting the room her loss is greater when a cancellation occurs. I provide the room over half the time.

Now let's deal with the BS providers HAVE to provide and hobbyists are there by choice. Sorry both are there by choice unless one is trafficked. There are tons of ways to make a living other selling sex and  there is plenty of ways to take care of ones sexual needs other than seeing a sex worker. Both are there by.CHOICE. No one is fucking forcing you ether.

Now I have zero issues paying a cancellation fee. In fact the one time I cancelled without 24 hour notice I rebooked and paid an extra 50% without being asked to and I rented the room. A providers time is valuable and if I waste it I should make up for it if possible but what you are not getting my time is worth ever damn fucking bit as much. If a lady wastes my time/money if I am expected make good so should the provider. What you put forth is utter bull shit

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So you see, I am not such a greedy bitch afterall lol. In fact, when my 2 hour rate was 700, I OFTEN went to dinner OTC with a ton of guys I really liked. I feel if a guy is already paying a premium rate, it's costing me NOTHING to go to dinner with him or have drinks after the playtime. In fact, it is saving me the cost of said meal and drinks, and I don't have 'another date' after him that day or likely for the next couple days either. Now, if I were charging by the hour and having to see multiple guys in a day, that would not work because I would in fact be losing money, so I don't pretend that would be wise for everyone.  

And, my hourly rate for SEX TIME is higher, not lower. It is now 500 an hour (2 hour min for ONLY sex) compared to 350 an hour when I had a 2 hour rate of 700. All I am discounting is public time... I do not discount sex time, or give it away in RL, period.  So you see, I happen to know very well what I am doing.

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If you book an appt. and you cancel, the provider is not only out of the date with you... she can be out of the other date that was tossed for your appt. that you flaked on. Do you honestly think all providers double book the way some of you do? NO, we don't, which is why so many are screwed when guys flake. You suggesting that we could just fk another dude that easily, is absurd. Would you suggest that to your wife as well? Yah, I bet. I am not going to fk 2 guys in a day's time just to save my hotel costs... you can put your ass up to the plate and take that if you like.  

Utter bs is trying to suggest that you lose more than we do... unless she rips you off, you lose what? Travel time? Big fkin whoop. If she flakes, you still have that donation money in your fat pocket! It's sad that this has to be literally spelled out and spoon fed to some of you (especially when you have a wife in this gig), but I digress. If I decide to go pay a hooker when I SHOULD be at work making money, that's my problem not hers. Ever hear of only seeing providers when you're off? OMG, what a concept lol. You putting your dick over your work, is not our problem... it's yours, and will never be as important as a provider trying to put food on the table, but you keep at that bs story.  

Wonder what your wife would think? Does she require a deposit? How does she feel when she honored a 2 hour appt. and tossed a 4 hour on faith, then the 2 hour guy NCNSs and she can't book a back up plan? I am so sure she is just jumping for joy about that, and it happening often. I agree that this is the price of doing business, but I also agree that as a business owner we have to cover our own asses and not blame others for OUR choices... that is what you are doing. You are blaming the provider for your choices... I blame no one, because I don't deal with guys I feel are a risk. No deposit, no date. I minimize the risk by requiring a deposit, vs. putting the blame on the guy if he cancels. How simple, but it is not that way for every provider. They can't afford to raise their rates or lose the business that comes with demanding a deposit, To take advantage of them or suggest they just fk a few more guys that week (on the day that might be reserved for her CHILDREN) is pathetic.  NOT suggesting that is what you're doing, but others in this thread sure as hell have, and were not cryptic about it.  

 
FYI you also TRIED to say that if you book the room you are out money... ok, you are out the money for the room, but you also SAVED the 2-500 donation you were going to SPEND in the first place if she flakes. I am not saying any of this is 'right' or ethical, but you're still not out as much as the provider is, and saying it over and over won't change that fact. A provider CHOOSING this profession to feed her family is still valued higher than you CHOOSING to get your rocks off in it. Ask any judge or single mother in the world about that lol.  

 

 
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Yes, why not, I'll concede that if you book a room, travel, buy makeup, whatever for an appt then it "costs" you more than a John walking away.  

Hello, it's called the cost of doing business.  
This is a concept known for millennia.  
An example: If one of my bank vendors sets up a lavish thousand dollar dinner
And I cancel, it is on him to have a backup plan.
Chances are, he does.  
But if he doesn't he could eat some cost.  

Why does he do that?
Because when I/others in similar circumstances pay him, it's worth it.  
If he were so sought after as a vendor, a concept which is ridiculous in my business, then he could ask for a deposit.  

That reconciles with your point. But I'm also not wrong. The analogy here is I was going to spend on the vendor's services. But it doesn't really matter which one I go with.  
From an accounting point of view that money is spent

I agree "that is the cost of doing business" but you know what... SMART business people require a deposit (if they can get one ) to minimize that "cost of doing business" lol. I NEVER said otherwise. I only tried to illustrate that the provider loses both the donation and hotel costs and client SAVES the donation when she flakes... is that really so hard for you to grasp? I never tried to dismiss that as providers or any business, there is a cost, but you trying to say that applies to everyone is bs. It does not apply to those of us who get a fkin deposit. I don't waste two cents or five minutes on someone who does not pay one... that simple. Why? Because I don't need to! I have been on the side of the cheap, hourly, bang for the buck client, and tossed them after the first year.  

My Attorney, Hair Stylist, and many restaurants I CHOOSE to eat in, are the exact same way. I can pay them upfront for what they lose if I flake, or seek another place of business... that much, we agree on. For an acclaimed accountant, you sure seem to be a bit blind to the numbers though, which was my ONLY issue with your post. You saying the money you drew out to spend on a provider 'must be spent on something' even if she cancels, is so retarded, it's not even funny.  

News Flash... If I draw out 500 to go play Black Jack at Harrahs, and they are closed when I get there, that money is NOT SPENT unless I am just an idiot with no self control... like YOU admitted to being lol. I can carry my happy ass right back to the bank, and deposit it the same way I took it out, but that's just me I guess. THAT was the only issue I had with your rant... not you saying anything about the cost of doing business. That I get, but also don't have to put up with it. I choose who I see babes, and I don't see but 2 guys a month, and even that is a stretch. Not all hookers are dependent on you boys that much. Sorry about that, and the fact that your bs manipluation tactics only work on those who are lol. Toodles.  

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You should really learn to write and rant more succinctly. Lol

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LR is cute but people who've seen her concluded on other boards that her looks scores are inflated, her weight being more appropriate for her geographic area, and you have to like her kind of loud to be worth seeing at all.  
The price is fair to good though. Lol

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I don't put much credence in what guys who've never seen me have tried to say, dear. If what they say is true, why not post that on TER, where they will ask for EVIDENCE of a meeting? I will tell you why... because they can't ha ha. Is it supposed to hurt me when you point out that I am a bit fluffy? Hell, I have a mirror, but my photos are ACCURATE, and that's all that matters. I do not LIE about my weight or photoshop it off... heh.  

Of course the men who book me know I would be a bit hyper... duh, I have 20,000 posts, so if I was trying to hide that, I could just stfu once in a while. You're really mad to have to use such infantile attacks, eh little boy? WOW... you go from saying I was insulting when I never got personal (how could I, when you're a chickensht alias lol) to now using the most immature and played out fallacies in the world ha ha ha. Oh gosh. He called me fat... I am going to go cry now.  

Again, thanks for playing lol. It's easy to see who comes out ahead...I am still being PAID bwahahaha. But don't you worry honey, LR was never a career... just a hobby. You can't hurt my low volume business, any more than you can touch my REAL career that pays my bills. 2 guys a month, certainly could not do that. If I gave two shits about my rep as LR, I would not post here at all for fear of running guys away... so you see, there is a method to my madness. Insecure, whiney, bitch boys would never contact me after reading my posts, and thank GAWD!

You did get personal with me attacking my lack of education and drawing my wife's profession into the mix saying I don't respect the ladies in this business which includes my wife. That I think that providers time and money is less important than mine. You constructed a straw man out of my post implying I stated I skipped million dollar meeting to see providers. I will say your total mischaracterization of me and my point shows how weak your point is.

First I have a great respect for the ladies in this business. I only cancelled once because my son got sick. I was providing the room and called before she left. She never asked for me to pay a fee. But I felt I should make it up and put an extra 50% of her fee with her fee when I rebooked. There was two times life gave me cause to want to cancel. Once I found out I had health issue I counsel spread if bedded her but instead of canceling because I knew she turned down work for me I paid her to eat out with me. The other time I was in a real funk because of personal crap relating to my health and I still went even though sex wasn't going to happen. I paid the full amount both those times. Now given I kept appointments most would cancel because I felt it only right and made good the one time I did cancel does that sound like a man who doesn't respect a provider, her time, or her money like you said? I value her time like I do my own when I say I will pay for it. I have no issues with cancellation fees or paying a deposit if I trust the lady. I provider can lose real money and her time is valuable and if I waste it I have no issues with making it right.

Second on your attack on my education, true I only have a high school education. Yes my lack of education is a thing I am ashamed of, but I am fixing that. I am enrolled in a community college, have been since June. And even with my lacking education I have done well for myself starting and running nine successful businesses. I built them from nothing. I must know a thing or two about money. Trust me time IS money.

What your not getting is when you cancel last second we lose something we value more than money and we can lose simular amounts of real money and something we value more than the the money involved. Now you have a point in the money we lose is discretionary and most providers depend on said money to feed and house themselves and their kids. That is a valid point. I will concede not all money is of equal importance to all people in all situations and the loss.of the same funds is often harder on the lady as she very well may be depending on said funds and The guy is only losing discretionary income. That is a fair point. I never said any different. I was only looking at money lost not need of said money. If I John paid for the room and got a last second cancelizatio he would lose as much money as a lady if the situation was reversed, the only difference is it is money he was planning to lose.

But time is time and money is money. Don't give me crap about loss of potential earnings as both sides could potentially be making money with the wasted time. Time is money. As a business owner of more than one business that never closes I always have responsibilities there that I put off so I can be more than just my businesses but could be attending that would likely equal larger profits as I could reduce staff I pay to take care of them. Of course that is my problem and the John you turned away is yours. Given most exchange time for money and honestly money for time potential income is lost when time is lost