you posted review and most probably you gave your handle so, what is wrong with checking? It is public information isn't it?
If you want to be private, don't put the information on public places. Think about this way, you posted review about a provider, hopefully you asked for permission.
Had an odd thing happen, and I was wondering if it was common. Had entered into exploratory converation with a Provider regarding more information - she had limited web presence but good reviews. Apparently she reached out to someone I had posted a review on, and did so without giving me a heads up, to check on me as a Hobbyist. Now, I suppose in one sense, why should I care? In the end the other Provider gave me rave reviews. But it really bothers me and I can't figure out why. Is this common for Providers to share notes amongst themselves without checking first? Because I would never list someone as a Reference without making sure they were ok with it. Anyhow, just curious.
Some providers do know and talk to other providers and put more stock in another provider they know then someone you suggest as a reference. If you gave her your TER handle so if she has VIP she can see who you reviewed and find someone they know they are likely to touch base as a more positive screening. At least my ATF does, this it is actually good for you. A good word from a lady she knows well and she doesn't need other references. Plus she will be much more at ease which makes the initial session better. Men sometimes do similar with reviews. If I see a single review from another local hobbyist who I have been following and we have seen some of the same ladies with the same thoughts about the performance can be as good as 5 reviews from guys with little history.
Just like the other reply said she probably had VIP so she looked to see if you had a review history.
She checked with a provider you had reviewed to make sure you were a cool guy to see for her safety.
Did you give her references and she did not contact them she just contacted another lady?
I do appreciate when a gent gives the provider a heads up to look out for a reference but some guys do not do this.
I do not see why you would be bothered by her contacting a lady who you have reviewed.
Your post does not indicate she said anything negative about you just checking to see if you are who you say you are.
Gents do it all the time check with other guys who have reviewed a lady they might be interested in.
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IMHO, what she did is not odd in the least. She did what she should have done with your prior providers to verify you as a client. That's a very common practice in many ladies' screening process. She did her research on you, just as we do research on the providers we are interested in seeing.
Even though you did not give her any specific references, your reviews are out there for all to see. It is time consuming to do research on potential clients, so it's not surprising that she did not tell you, there was really no need for that anyway. You are correct in one thing, never give a provider's name as a reference w/o asking her if it's ok. But what your lady did was just look at your reviews and pick someone that maybe she knew, or knew that was a quality provider.
Swim
This is standard procedure. You need to expect it and you need to take advantage of it.
I have a very strict screening regimen. Its previously been said on multiple occasion that are clients who will never see me because of my screening requirements. My webpage outlines three different levels of screening dependent on your hobby background. People follow them or we just don't meet. I can respect a potential clients desire to include certain information or NOT, and I would hope they would respect mine as well.
When I get that information I screen. When it comes to your references, I will read every review you have posted in the past year, or at least the 10 most current. I will review your highest scored companions and your lowest scored companions. I look for anything and everything to make your appointment what you expect and want. I do all of this for YOU.
I contact MANY of your previous companions. Sorry but how I decide who to contact is kind of like a secret formula for me. But I don't just contact your white-list, or the two most recent or even the three you may give me. I want to make sure that your references check out. I do all this for ME.
I want you to have a great time. I want to have some sort of idea as to what you like and expect. I want to be somewhat informed as to what is going to make our time special to you and worth your effort. In addition I want to feel comfortable about who I am with. I want to know that I am safe, and what I should expect behavior wise. I don't think thats asking for much.
Finally take advantage of a companions screening. Ask her who she sent screening references to and who replied. Then email them and confirm. Generally speaking LE is not going to ask for references. Its not a big deal, but every little bit you do to protect yourself helps. You may want to try that if your out there TOFTT, just a thought.
Have a great day
Every provider has their own screening technique. I don't find it odd, maybe she saw a friend of hers who you reviewed. Lets face, if asked for names, you're not give the lady the names of providers you didn't have a great session with. It's happened to me quite a few times.
Dear Ms. Moore:
I notice that when you said that you look at the past ten review that a potential client had in the past year. I was also wondering with respect to your research and screening would you also look at any other reviews a provider might have to discern if there are certain behavior pattern or certain items that would recur with certain providers just to see if it wasn't a pattern with a hobbyist and a provider? Also when you look at the review and contact the providers are you certain that you are getting a certain type of response from the provider that would be expected from particular providers? Finally although you say that you are consistent with respect to you methodologies and procedures, depending on the activity of the prospective client would you tend to modify the intensity of your investigation and background checks on your clients? Also with respect to that do you have a point system that you go by with respect to certain pieces of information that you would get and if he or she might be on the borderline with respect to your point system would you ask them for other pieces of information if they are in the seminal stages of their hobbying? Also would you have certain websites with respect to reviews and hobbying that you prefer when extrapolating information from a prospective client over others? And for those providers who might be more regional how did escorts.com help you with respect to reviews when it was around and for the regional provider who might not be from a major metropolis what would be some of your better regional sites as well? Also how is google and other search engines been of assistance to you since you been in the business?
I've had providers tell me they'd studied up on my reviews before our date. I'm under no illusion that anything I've posted here can't be connected to me and used for research by a determined provider. If it bothers you too much, don't post reviews.
You may not have given out your TER handle, but if you gave her references there is a good chance the reference has figured out your TER handle and has passed it on. I have yet to meet a provider who didn't remember the session described in a legitimate review and there by know who wrote it. Or if you use something like P411 to contact and you have multiple OK's then a little cross checking of TER reviews can easily spot you. As stated some good providers do a lot of research so that when you do meet she knows the little things you have described that you really enjoy. Most of it ultimately benefits you during a session and your correct if it bothers you then don't review at all even anonymously. This whole review process actually works both ways, when you honestly review a lady your also reviewing yourself for the ladies.
when you're reviewing a provider! Obviously, it's front and center for some people. Those are the reviews I try to ignore.
That's the main reason I keep my handle to myself. I want to feel like I'm sharing candid intel with other mongers, not impressing providers. Like I already said in so many words, I realize they can usually figure out who wrote what. That doesn't matter. I don't concern myself with how they find out what they need.
I've also seen many providers who don't read TER reviews, including their own. Somehow, they managed to make our session just as pleasurable as the rest. Maybe more so for being more spontaneous.
Like you connected with a lady who likes to do her homework and who has her safety in mind..
I am not sure why it bothers you. If you took the time to write a review on another lady your info is out there.. YES! We really do check references.. We assume if you are seeing us. you have also seen another provider. Here is the shocking part, please pay attention.. WE ARE NOT YOUR WIVES OR GIRLFRIENDS! We really do not care if you are seeing other ladies. we DO CARE If you are careless..
We do not share your size or girth or stamina or even your wallet.....
I for the life of me do not understand why you gentlemen are all hung up on. making sure the previous lady is ok with giving you a reference. It only looks like you have something to hide..
But there are threads that are about the lady that did care when another provider asked for a reference. Not saying it's ok but it happens. So for the guys it can be an issue. So to say WE don't care isn't completely accurate but mostly so.
with some justification. Without being notified, for all they know the call could be coming from a snooping wife or a detective, etc. (or so they tell me). Personally, I don't care what you share amongst yourselves, but when the previous lady asks to be notified, I'm not going to defy her wish.
I do ask that my friends let me know when they are giving my name as a reference so that I know the request is legitimate and authorized. Many ladies who have had the uncomfortable displeasure of speaking with a pissed off SO have similar policies. Additionally, if it has been any length of time since the last visit, this allows me to ask a few questions to ensure that I recall the gentleman in question... saving a lot of back and forth with a third party.
Women simply can't keep their mouth shut. :P
The potential date was pretty high-end and contacted another high-end, otherwise well-reviewed provider for whom I'd posted a less than stellar review. I hadn't slammed her, but she just didn't live up to my expectations, and I said so. Maybe she was having an off day. Anyway, she totally ripped me and told this potential date that I'd been seeing diseased providers. This was total bullshit, unless she knew something I didn't about the other providers I'd posted reviews on. (That's why I'm aliasing, BTW.) Obviously, this date fell through because of it. It just shows to go you how things can be turned around on you. I'm thinking about aliasing any future reviews that aren't pretty positive.
you posted review and most probably you gave your handle so, what is wrong with checking? It is public information isn't it?
If you want to be private, don't put the information on public places. Think about this way, you posted review about a provider, hopefully you asked for permission.
Not that my 2 cents matter.... But, I have noticed that on occassion providers can get jealous of their clients seeing other providers. Just as hobbyists can become uncomfortable with hearing or thinking about their ATF seeing other hobbyist. Perhaps you wouldn't have been so upset about the provider asking for references if you had not been worried about how the providers would respond. Screening is so important in this business and I personally like to know more about a hobbyist before dishing out all of my information. You never know who someone could be and I am sure the provider only did that to protect herself; not to invade your public "privacy". So, unless you have something to hide from your potential provider or your current providers then you shouldn't feel so annoyed. Hey, at least you got a good review lol...it could have been worse!!
And lastly, if you are seeing a provider who would get the least bit jealous about you seeing someone else you should move on and tell her she needs to re-evaluate her business model because she will not get anywhere in this industry with that kind of attitude!
XOXOX
Eyva
All of you seem to be missing the point - I give out references all the time, I have no problem with it, I would simply like to provide the courtesy of ASKING ANY OF YOU if you wish to be a reference prior to giving out your info. Now apparently in the end, none of you seem to care, so perhaps I am just being too much of a gentleman, if that's possible.
The other thing that was surprising is the conversation with this particular Provider was very preliminary - so it was a surprise to find out she was already doing research - slow day? I hear all the time about the effort most of you put into research and prep only to have us never follow through, so for her to go as far as so research me on TER that early in the process - unusual.
Regardless, it was all good, I got a great reference but never did book an appointment.
I did email the Provider who sought the reference to simply explain that with her, as with any of you, I would simply give you the courtesy of asking first. Perhaps this is not the hobby for me after all . . .
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But in that context, why would I ask for permission? If a provider has been reviewed before, I should just assume I can provide a review. See the conundrum? We should ask before providing a review but shouldnt be asked before someone contacts a Provider we've seen. The longer I stay in this hobby the more confusing it gets - again becoming moot given that it all worked out in the end, I tire of this thred