For a new experience, I prefer 1.5 anyway. Too much nervousness to get out of the way and also have a good time, and shower after in 1.0. But somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0 I have found we run out of things to talk about if we don't have the same tastes in films or books (esp. if the provider is not a reader).
But if the woman's ad sparks my interest for possible repeats (i.e. local or frequent visitor) and her repeat customers can have 1 hour appointments, I'll consider the 2 hour fee an investment; an entry premium for future fun. If I'm bored and not going for a second cup I can always just cut it short and leave. Some quirky things put me off, though: no discount for the second hour, minimum appts. at 1.5 even for repeaters, no 1/2 hour increments past the first hour, advance deposits required.Hi Guys and Dolls
If you contacted a provider to find her minimum time was 1.5 hrs or 2 hrs for a new client , as opposed to 1 hr would you still see the lady even if you had originally intended to contact her for 1 hr.
We are assuming she is well reviewed , well recieved and considered one of the better options in your area . Let's even assume she had a 1 hr date option available prior but Changed her options in terms of time but Not in terms of service . What say you ?
Thank You Kendall Lynn
then $400 it is. Now, if she is a $300 provider and I have $400 budgeted, and she requires $400 for 1.5 hours, then yes.
I don't like 2 hour appointments, so if she has a 2 hour minimum, I will bypass her.
The lone exception is Kim Tao. My only 10/10
I tend to be put off by second, third, and fourth hours that are the same as the first hour.. I'm an old fart and I'm only gonna get off once unless it's an overnighter and while I enjoy the company of a pretty lady, I don't want to pay full rate to have a conversation and drink a glass of wine... When I first started playing in this sand box I would go for the 3-4 hour dinner date but soon realized that could have 3-4 one hour excursions for the same outlay..
If the subsequent hours are well discounted and the lady is a brilliant conversationalist and wonderful eye candy, then yes, I would still go for the longer time frame..
What if she held you there and you came once but used your time and had no time for wine ? What if she could for the large majority of 1.5 hrs keep you at the edge and then blast you off ? I am not taling about task avoidance here lol Kendall Lynn
however, as a practical matter, I find that while I can maintain an hour or two, the longer I deny myself the blast off, the harder it is to achieve.. then it is no longer part of the flow of the meeting, but becomes an end in and of itself.. not pleasurable for either of us..
probably more than you wanted to know, but you did ask
appreciate your candor Kendall Lyn
>90% of my dates have been 1.5 - 2.0 (or rarely, longer). For me, 1 hour is generally not enough time to get to know someone and have a mutually rewarding experience. I tend to look for ladies who specifically offer such encounters but at a reasonable price. As an added benefit, often these ladies tend to be "lower volume" ladies and they really make the effort to get to know me and for me to know them (connection). JMHO.
the best decision I ever made. The clients are simply different from what I have noticed, and I am never rushed. My volume has decreased of course, but the money is about the same. I just work less, and do longer dates when I actually do work lol. My hourly rate was 400, so instead of charging 800 for 2 hours, I dropped it to 600, which most consider very reasonable. You will also note my dinner rates are only 100 more, which again, attracts guys because I am not bleeding them dry.
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I think many ladies will have a similar experience if they try your approach. Ladies will see a difference in the clients when they change to a longer minimum and get away from the traditional "slam-bam-thank-you ma'am" clients. The old addage "Quality over Quantity" applies and in this situation like yoiu said you can make the same (or even more) with better clients and less work.
Yes, but it won't work for everyone and that's the problem. I am sure many providers would love to get more money and work less, but based on a variety of factors, they can't really ask for 2, 3, or 4 hour minimums. If they could get it, they would already be doing it. If I could GET a grand for 2 hours, my ass would already be doing that too lol.
I don't "need" to work a lot, so it's not a big deal if I only see one guy a week, but some ladies obviously need to make more money than I do.
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I actually prefer 90 min. dates because an hour makes me feel rushed. So, if I can afford the rate for that time, I'm fine with it.
I don't know why more women don't just up their hour to 90 min. and only charge say 50 dollars more...in most cases, guys will up the extra 50 bucks. Now, if you go up 100 and the market can't handle it, that may be an issue. If a woman is charging 350 an hour or 400 for 90 min. which one would you pick?
I agree, an hour often feels rushed. Depending on the hourly rate, increasing $50-100 for another half hour seems very reasonable. Something I don't understand, but often see, is when the 90 minute rate is more than 1.5x the hourly rate. WTF? Sometimes I'll bring this to the attention of a lady and she admits that it doesn't seem to make sense and will adjust accordingly. Those I tend to believe either didn't give much thought to rate setting when writing their webpage or else simply aren't terribly bright. LOL
In summary, I prefer ninety minutes over a one hour session any day.
Regards.....RR
I like to deal in hundreds so I'd go for the 90 minutes.
ut I have to line up with the other guys... an extra 30 minutes for $50 is a no brainer... I'm still only going to spend ~45 minutes with a hard on, but that would give me more time to get wound up and to wind down and take a shower afterwards...
fortunately, my current favorite includes that extra 30 minutes in her hourly rate
A four hour minimum. With a 4 hour minimum, you can almost guarantee she's low volume and that she's not going to be juggling you with four other guys that day. Granted juggling 10 balls at once is very impressive stunt, it's just not a party I enjoy being a part of.
I know some of you are still trying to do the math. I tried to keep it simple so you wouldn't have to take off your shoes
It's half and half, so regardless of the amount of time spent, I am not going over 2 hours of bcd time. I could easily up to a 4 hour min. but so many guys do not want to book that much time on a first date...they just don't. Without really knowing someone, most guys are not going to commit to that long of a time frame. 2 hours seems to be the best selling option going nowadays. Even women who offer an hour, generally say they are booked for 2 hours in most cases.
Many women screw themselves by insisting on such long time frames, because they can make the same amount of money simply charging more for a 2 hour date. If I had a 4 hour min. the rate would only be 800, but only TWO of those hours would be bcd, so if the guy does not want dinner, he could have booked the 2 hour rate if it was offered.
At one time my 2 hour bcd rate and my 3 hour dinner rate were the SAME price, but I had more guys booking just the 2 hours. Money was not the issue, the dinner and TIME, was. They simply did not want to commit to that many hours. Had I made my min. a 3 hour dinner date, I would have lost business because guys would have assumed we MUST go out to eat. Add to that, I do not want to spend 3-4 hours with every new client...I just don't lol. I would rather see them for 2 hours and know there is a connection before being stuck there for double that time. I am not a good actress lol.
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What do you guys eat?
Many women screw themselves by insisting on such long time frames, because they can make the same amount of money simply charging more for a 2 hour date. If I had a 4 hour min. the rate would only be 800, but only TWO of those hours would be bcd, so if the guy does not want dinner, he could have booked the 2 hour rate if it was offered.
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Round 1 and round 2 are usually fun, but round three becomes more effort than it's worth. I'd much rather dinner and a show plus playtime. That way you get to know someone in a vertical position. One of the primary reasons I like the longer date is that there is never any need to rush. With more than 4 hours you eat and play at a very relaxed pace and the 'date' has a much more natural feel.
Granted there are those who (for a variety of legit reasons) are only about the wham bam thank you ma'am, and I totally get that angle, but generally when I'm playing I've got the night free and I prefer to take things at a relaxed pace, so 4, 6, 12, or even 24 isn't a problem. That said I agree with your bcd time constraints. I had one 'friend' who had no desire to leave the room for the entire day. I know it sounds totally erotic, but believe me after five or six hours straight, it's nice to at least go out and get a sandwich.
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Back in the day before my hiatus and move to FL, I only offered 4 hours or more. In general, with my handful of friends, I would book overnights or weekends, and the 4 hours was very rare. I really enjoyed working that way because I loved the gentle pace and the men I saw were pretty fascinating individuals. We also went to some fantastic places. I was fortunate to have experienced some of the most beautiful hotels.
A 4 hour minimum would never work in FL, I don't think- just a different economy and a different "hobby" ethos (unless I am just presuming such, as I have never given it a go here). Plus, my life has taken turns that require a bit more work for me to have weekends available. But there really is a difference in the feel of an engagement between the shorter and the longer. I very much prefer the longer, having experienced both. But it is what it is.
I will probably be giving up my 1 hour availability soon. I rarely book an hour, and when I do, I also feel pretty rushed. I think I can sustain a 90 minute minimum here in Tampa.
1hour availability and then decides to pull it from the table for no appearent reason I would be gun shy as to what else she may decide to switch up upon meeting.
Everyone is entitled to make changes and offer what suits them but if she should stick to what is advertised. Imo
She is talking about totally changing her rates on her website so they know upfront, and decide from there. If the guy was only wanting to book an hour and can't afford the increase, yes I agree he would probably pass her by...then again, he may not. If he is that cheap, he can't afford an extra 50 bucks, I would not consider it much of a loss though lol. The next guy booking the 90 min. rate will certainly make up for that guy who insisted on saving 50 bucks.
Everyone I know starts off with either a half hour or an hour, and they go up over time. That's the norm. Of course, most of us grandfather our old rates to existing clients.
I still have clients that see me for an hour at my 2008 rate, BUT that is also a one pop, no gfe rate. They are not asking for 5 star service at half the price, nor would they get it. I grandfather rate AND SERVICE, because that is what they got back then for that rate. If they want the service I provide today, they will have to pay the rate I have today, as well. That's only fair.
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I know London as you can see from my last post I realized after hitting the send button and reading further down the thread that it was not last min. Only problem I am still moderated so it takes a minute for any corrections or reply to come through, lol.
Thread subject has actually been pretty helpful in showing various ways to intro incentive more more quality meeting verses quanty
THX
Are grandfathered since 06 and they still get GFE and Greek at those rates ,I do not charge for anything but time to anyone at all ,If you do not like greek then do not do it lol but i do not upsell it , nor discount if you do not do it or gfe or anything anywhere . Admittedly I have many regular clients and only see a few new people so IDK how much this would actually change the look of my schedule realistically unless i also made those old friends move to 1.5 hrs at a rate that reflects their grandfathered discounts respectively , maybe its time to raise them lol Naa they have been my core business since aug 06' . Kendall Lynn
Ok, "upsell" is not the right word lol, but damn right I charge extra. Why? Because I don't want to be wearing a diaper before I turn 35, and my GFE guys are not going to pay 800 for 2 hours. I would LOSE business if I made one PSE rate. Why punish them for a service they don't want? It's not about 'not liking' something, because I have done it for FREE with all my guys in real life, but this is a business which I will capitalize on in every way I possibly can, whilst considering the fact that some guys do not insist on such a service. Also, Greek on DEMAND is not like greek with a BF where you have 3 hours to get aroused, ready, and take things slow...we are on the clock here.
If my rate was all inclusive for greek, it would be EXPECTED from EVERY guy, including those that are too big to fit even in the front. With the two rates, at least a guy knows he is not going to be charged for something I can't do. In fact, I even have a review from way back when, where the idiot says, "She said I was too big for greek so that service that is normally available, was off the table for me." Well, number one...he did not PAY for Greek, and 2. Even if he had, there is no way I would have been able to accommodate him, and he would have been given a refund for that amount.
I know several women who are docked scores because they can't perform a service that is supposed to be all inclusive, and I just don't need the hassle lol. By saying "charging extra for something connotes dislike," then I guess none of us really like sex at all, because we are certainly charging for it. This is why, I have issues with statements made about such things. I don't like rimming in the hobby, so I don't do it AT ALL. I do like Greek, but damn right, I will get paid extra for it...because I can lol.
Just because you like something, does not mean you are going to like it with EVERY person who books, nor is it something you can physically handle every single time. I could do it once or twice a week sure, but as I said, Greek is not why guys book with me. For the 2 hour PSE rate, a guy can get a 4 hour dinner date for not much more, and that is what most tend to choose over just some acronym.
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I think i may leave that one alone lol . Kendall Lynn
Been clearly stated and not a last min i would definitely see her. . Especially she was one of the better options in the area and the change would result in more time as stated by Ms London that actually sounds like more incentive to see her.
I do not advertise at all .I have some of the best reviews in my area though . That area is NY . I Have for the time i have been here been available for 1 hr meetings i am considering moving that to a 1.4 or even 2 hr min . I get more inquiries than i can see at this point , I Highly perfer being a low volume girl , it works well for my life .Like London this is not my only form of income . . Kendall Lynn
Then I think the provider should somewhat discount the additional time, as she is requiring the extra time for her reasons. On the other hand, as long as she is clear up front, then it really is up to her. I prefer longer dates (as you know, having spent an incredible evening with you!) but as they say, it's two consenting adults.
Thank You

1've never done just 1 hr. I guess that I'm in the group who likes longer sessions, since they're less rushed and I enjoy them much better. I usually prefer 2 hrs minimum whether I'm seeing a new provider or a repeat.
For a new experience, I prefer 1.5 anyway. Too much nervousness to get out of the way and also have a good time, and shower after in 1.0. But somewhere between 1.5 and 2.0 I have found we run out of things to talk about if we don't have the same tastes in films or books (esp. if the provider is not a reader).
But if the woman's ad sparks my interest for possible repeats (i.e. local or frequent visitor) and her repeat customers can have 1 hour appointments, I'll consider the 2 hour fee an investment; an entry premium for future fun. If I'm bored and not going for a second cup I can always just cut it short and leave.
Some quirky things put me off, though: no discount for the second hour, minimum appts. at 1.5 even for repeaters, no 1/2 hour increments past the first hour, advance deposits required.