Let her breach the subject of any discounts. Simply don't see her if you haven't the coin. Why is this shit so difficult?
I have seen a UTR low volume lady a few times.
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
If that is the only way you would return then I don't think it is out of line because you have nothing to lose and neither does she. If however you would like to see her again even at her current rate then don't bring it up at least not directly, unless you are ok with the possibility that she won't see you again.
It is a taboo subject for some... Correction, for most. But it sounds like you have nothing to lose.
A discount is something most of us never see unless a provider particularly likes our visits and is encouraging or helping you to be a regular. And it is something I myself wouldn't feel comfortable being the one to bring up , for fear of unintended insult to the woman.
Don't kid yourself...those return emails are not because you're special honey. I've never sent a "I am so limited on my time this week, so please come see me," email lol. That's absurd. Normally, I find asking for discounts tacky, but in this case, I would say ask for the discount. She has set herself up to be haggled by over stepping, and almost begging. If her business was THAT good at her current rate, there would be no need to spam clients to come back and see her. Just saying.
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Agree London!
No girl who is totally booked is offering mass mailer discounts....If she is putting that out there then the guy should ask because she started the dialogue...
That said, I hate it when a guy asks, especially one I have never met before.
Cheers, B
Ask if she offers long term contracts with frequent visits instead of paying every week .
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
Bwahahaha...I certainly do!
Ita bit demeaing to her to ask for a discount. You could ask for a package deal, 5 sessions for the price of 4. It gives her solid repeat business and doesn't look like you're insulting her.
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
That you know what her overhead is or isn't. She obviously needs money or you wouldn't get the emails.
Don't ever assume you know how much business she is or isn't getting. It could be that if she could choose which clients to see, you are one of her top choices and doesn't in any way mean that's she willing to concede to a discount.
You have a decision to make.
....if you only knew how many jokers want a discount because they're "looking for a regular"
If you're serious, prebook and prepay for 3-6 months and see if that works.
However, don't expect her to give you a discount with no guarantee.
Its hilarious when a joker says he is "looking for a regular" you actually believe him and you give him a discount and then you never hear from him again.
I think a lot men will say they are looking for a regular just to get a discount for that one session and then they move on to the next and say the same thing.
Go into a 3-star restaurant and tell them that since they already signed a lease, that's all sunk cost. Then ask for their best meal at a 25% discount because you don't think the food is really all that good, it's just conveniently on your way to work. See how well that works.
If you don't think her lconvenience and service make up for the looks, or you don't think her price is set properly, find someone else.
A more subtle way is to say that you would love to see her more often, but that you really can't afford to.
Let her figure out what that means.
when you receive your email from her, email her back stating you are kind of low on funds this week, that you would love to see her but you only have this amount $$$. If she says yes good if not you know your answer, this way your not insulting her. Then, if she said yes, after your date is done and your fixing to leave ask her if its possible to lock her in on that rate. If she yes or no you know your answer. Simple and easy!
In my opinion Unlucky 2 gave you good advice. I can only speak for myself when saying this but I choose to have my rate set at xxx amount because I prefer to only go on 1-3 dates per week, in the past I have had free time and would have considered a slight discount if I received a reply like Unlucky stated.
Now, as a disclaimer I have never done this so I honestly don't know if it is a good idea at all. But this is what you might consider doing.
Send her an email. Express how much you enjoy seeing her. But with her you really had been exceeding what you allow yourself for an hourly rate. You might mention that since you had always been intrigued by her that you made an exception to your rate limit thinking it was a one time splurge....but what you had not counted on was becoming smitten. Rather than a % discount just inquire if she would be willing to see you at the rate you are comfortable with. I get a feeling it's probably only about 50-100 less than her normal rate. as you do desire to become a regular and reliable client.
I totally understand that most well establish Providers have a statement somewhere in their ad or on their site that they will not negotiate rates. But you are not a new client or unknown attempting to bargan a cheap rate.
Use your own judgement. And she should as well.
Most are fairly logical, esp. Homer's.
Will post her reply/reaction.
Yup, her standard rate is 300.
I could probably justify 250, although her actual value is probably 225 [to me].
Looks = 6.5-7 IMO.
I am not cheap--have gone much higher in past, but she is convenient.
As I said, she has no overhead.
Thanks
"She has no overhead." Here is what is wrong with that assumption....you don't know what you're talking about lol. If she HAS to use her actual HOME to see clients, she should be charging MORE! A provider getting the amount of business she needs, can afford a damn incall to see random strangers. So, are you saying she sees EVERY guy, even first timers, at her personal home? Not too bright, and even more stupid to go around actually telling guys that is in fact, where she lives. If more guys paid her full rate, maybe she could afford a hotel.
She screens heavily.
She has hours only 3 days per week, for 4 hour segments. [max 2 clients per day x 3 days]. A hotel would not pay in view of her lo volume.
Yet, she still has open slots.
Sorry, not buying it. That's 1800 a damn week honey, and you don't know what her schedule is or how many guys she sees a day. That's just what "she tells you" and hookers never lie. Right. I only see TWO CLIENTS A WEEK, yet I still don't have to use my personal home. Then again, I tend to see guys who don't try to get discounts.
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Easy for you to say...as you appear to be far from a 6.5 !
Looks is only one of many factors in determining a ladies 'value' to me. Performance is right up there as well. I actually avoid ladies who are a 'ten' in appearance because many of those don't seem to feel the need to 'work' as hard as ladies who are simply attractive.
I see no harm in requesting a frequent flyer discount. She may be happy to do it. Just don't be surprised if you don't get the answer you want and/or it has an adverse effect on your fun time.
Figure a bit of scoring inflation since she does BBBJCIMNQNS...otherwise, well you get the picture!
Looks is only one of many factors in determining a ladies 'value' to me. Performance is right up there as well. I actually avoid ladies who are a 'ten' in appearance because many of those don't seem to feel the need to 'work' as hard as ladies who are simply attractive.
I see no harm in requesting a frequent flyer discount. She may be happy to do it. Just don't be surprised if you don't get the answer you want and/or it has an adverse effect on your fun time.
That narrowed the field down.
You don't want to really know what a 5 looks like...do you?
And she takes after you...uggghh, now I know why the wife has gone awol on sex with you...lol Just kidding sweetcheeks, just having a little fun. You having fun yet? And you do know it's my board persona, I really am very nice in person ( or a prize bitch and you just have to get used to me)...how else do you think I trick those poor saps who pay me.
Lots of love from the "faux hooker" to the "trick"
Looks like you and your partner were quite the pair that night.
Lots of love right back at ya...missed you sweet cheeks.
Lots of love from the "faux hooker" to the "trick"
But the chick doing the giddy up looks nice. A relative? From the cute side of the family?
I thought that was you on the bottom?
Guess not!
But the chick doing the giddy up looks nice. A relative? From the cute side of the family?
I were 300 lbs. If I feel I can do without money from a guy, I will certainly do that. As I said, in this case I feel you can ask for a discount, but ONLY because she has you believing every word she says. Busy hookers or at least hookers making the money they need, do not feel the need to spam clients or work out of their own home. Sounds like she is only low volume, by default, not by choice.
She might say yes or she may say no.
Just this past week a provider i wanted to see was rated around the $450 range for an hour and half.. I told I was only looking to spend around 4 and she said sure.
Be respectful and tell her you would love to see her but you only want to spend whatever it is you're trying to spend.
Keep in mind there a chance she could say no, so don't get upset if she does. Good luck
There is a certain tact one can take that most won't find offensive. Doesn't mean they will say yes. I certainly would never do it in a case where I may want to see the lady again. But with touring girls? Oh yeah. Many will respond with "let me see how my bookings go and if I am slow, i will get back to you." And guess what? Many get back and are glad to have 20 pct less than having zero.
Correct Newbies are in no position to negotiate on anything.
However I respectfully disagree with most of the responses on this thread. I personally would never ask a provider whose rate is $300 an hr to come down to 225.. but I see nothing wrong with him asking. Two things are likely to happen she's either going to say yes or no!
But guys should keep in mind there's almost a 90% chance that most likely she's going to say no.. its how you go about asking. For example car salesman has a Lamborghini priced at $440,000 , but you only have 435,000 he's either going to sell it to you or tell you to go to another dealership. No harm no foul
In the "old days" I would have created an alias called Crazy Horse to respond, or maybe Sitting Bull
Crazy Horse has never asked for a discount and never will. Also, if Crazy Horse find squaw's looks not so hot, Crazy Horse no see her for any amount of wampum. Ugh!
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
If squaw is fugly....don't even capture her. Let the old men of the village keep her 
Even us white men and brown (envelopes) men can agree LOL
Ugh
And seems even the Major no pay for fugly squaw. He comments that she is only worth $ 225 to him. Maybe if she shines boots...she's worth $ 250?
Crazy Horse has never asked for a discount and never will. Also, if Crazy Horse find squaw's looks not so hot, Crazy Horse no see her for any amount of wampum. Ugh!
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
And Crazy Horse don't wear shoes! No want fugly squaw! Put her on train to Chicago!
At least there she can get $ 350/hr...that's the going rate for fugly's in NYC?
Right? LOL
Reno's a bit busy now anyhow....seems like the scouts lied to him about only a few hundred defenseless squaw's there!
This may be better than the news I gave to General Custer, LOL
But, I am still scouting around...
Seems pretty quiet here at Little Big Horn
But, I am still scouting around...
glad you recover from Court Martial, Major. Just stay away from Little Bighorn or I kick ass again. Oh, and stay away from fuglies, too! Ugh!
Its very rude to ask for a discount, that "email" youre receiving is probably her newsletter and as London said she's not just reaching out to you. "You" are not everybody and I can't stand when men say well I think your rate is worth XXX, instead of XXX. Let me go to the hamptons and say I dont think your house is worth $500,000 instead of 2,000,000. Something is worth whatever people( plural) will pay. Move along to someone else, if she reaches out and ask why you wont see her than say so.
Yes, it would be.
This is not a one off in my book. She may need the money. How is this any different than a lady discounting multiple hour sessions? It's just a further extension of that. I have done this on numerous occasions where it is mutually beneficial to do so. It can't just be I'm out to save a few bucks. The OP would have to show a commitment to the lady, imo. I have always shown the commitment first, then asked for the arrangement. She is free to say no or counter with a lower discount and they can work it out like adults. Asking a lady you plan on seeing once for a discount is bad form, i would agree. But one in which you will substancially ad to her monthly or yearly income, I have no problem with it and I have never been either turned down or told she wouldn't see me again for she was offended. Most were thrilled actually.
You are assuming events and actions that are not indicated in the original post. I actually get a very generous discount in rate and time spent from my long-time ATF but it was offered after several months of being a good customer. In other words, I earned it.
The OP starts of his post by complaining that the lady in question is overpriced and then dissects what HE thinks is her business model as a means of justifying his thought process.
Based on what he posted he hasn't earned a discount yet. That, of course, doesn't prevent him from asking for one anyway...
I've had a few providers conatct me and ask about getting together. As always it's about the banjamins. I don't ask for a discount. If they offer It might change things a bit but if I can afford $400 I probably can afford $500. So I happily observe the game until my little head can't wait anymore.
Mani-pedi, waxing, the amount of cleaning that goes beyond your regular "picking up". Getting a sitter(possibly), risking her neighbors finding out, fresh sheets before and after, sometimes wine, protection, men's hygiene products, etc
Ask if you want, but if she needed the business that bad she would have already offered you a discount.
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
Let her breach the subject of any discounts. Simply don't see her if you haven't the coin. Why is this shit so difficult?
Looks aren't the only thing that determines price. Obviously, you are happy with the service she provides. She is selective with who she sees. To some people, that's value added. It's the whole experience, not just the looks.
I charge high rates altho I am very girl-next-door and not very PSE. Some people would say that I am not worth it because I don't have a G cup and don't look like a movie star...others would say it's because I don't provide a no-hold(e)s-barred session. So I would say to those people, if you aren't into me, then move on. I'm not marketing to you, I'm marketing to people who WANT someone like me. It's like, if you go to an Italian restaurant - don't tell them that they are inferior for not serving up a mean escargot dish, lol. So what I'm saying is, she is free to determine her worth. If she is worth it, she will have clients...if not, people will move on (like you).
I'd say that $300 is more than reasonable for any reasonably attractive upscale lady who keeps her clients happy. She gets to choose what rate she asks for...if you don't like it, move on, like the other posters said. Its her business and she chooses how to run it.
I do agree that asking for a regular arrangement is the only way to go. If you feel she isn't 'worth it', then move on! You won't be happy, because you'll always feel that you are not getting a good value. If she senses this sentiment from you, she won't be happy either.
Every one saying one way or another doesn’t mean jack shit.
So take the direct approach. If you are afraid to take the direct approach, STFU.
I feel that she is a bit overpriced [looks].
She works from her own place, which is very nice and convenient to me.
So, she has no overhead expense-no hotel, travel, advertising, etc.
I know she would like me to return because of weekly emails informing me of her [limited] availability.
Would it be out of line to tell her that I would return more often for a 25% discount?
Wow...
All of a sudden you think you know her overhead? How presumptuous of you!
What about her medical insurance? 300-500 a month
Her rent is probably 1000 or more a month....that is 35 bucks or so a day without ulitities.
If she is 300 she needs at least 5 visitors to covers her basics...not counting website, phone, school loans, electricity, beauty regimen, pedicures, incidentals, clothing, pets, gas, cars, children she may have...and food...
I can't believe you would say she's convenient but then complain...Do you complain to the ATM when it charges you $3 extra for being there?, if you want you can go find your own bank and drive across town...pay more in gas, go wait in line, etc...
The things you mention are needed by her if she was a provider or not. The OP may have overstated the case a bit but I think most of us knew what he was trying to say. And since when did something convenient mean we lost our right to complain? The post office may be convenient for dropping offletters to our houses so I don't have to go to them but they get complained about all the time. The OP asked a simple question. Would it be ok to ask for a discount. Of course it is ok. He is the customer. And she being the business, has every right to turn him down and never see him again. That's how business works. Just my 2 cents.
Quite frankly, none of us are in his situation, so he really didn't have to ask us for shit. I would not come ask the board if I should up my rates...just stupid. The answers are going to be all over the place as we have seen here, and I am still going to do what I want to do lol.
You keep saying "this is a business" but many consumers of other businesses would never ask for a discount. It's simply tacky, and even moreso in this business. The majority answer to any type of "Rates" thread has always been, move the fk on if you can't or won't pay the rate. I tend to agree.
The ONLY reason I said he was justified in THIS case, is because she is sending him "come see me" messages. She was in a sense, letting him know her business was not doing that great, so he picked up on that. Women working as much as they would like, do not have to offer specials or spam their clients...period.
When you do that, you are showing how NOT in demand you really are...then, enter every bottom feeder, and low baller to rescue the poor hooker.
Women have to deal with the benefits and the downsides of the business. I have to deal with my customers asking me every faking day for a discount. Ladies in this biz shouldn't be expected to be below, or above, those same standards other businesses
must endure. If they don't like it, they can tell the guy to fk off, ignore him or leave the biz.