I know from speaking to guys, and just looking at the majority of pornography out there, that the arousal I feel at seeing a woman swallow semen is shared with many (if not most) other men.  And, the idea of squirting my own semen into the waiting mouth of some eager woman, whom I know is going to drink it down as if it were her last meal, is absolutely mind-blowing (an unfortunate choice of words).

Has there been anything written on this response?  I'd be interested to know the thinking on what drives this behavior.

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frankly, i'd rather see her play with it externally. after chatting with fellow afficionados (of porn/hobby/etc) i get the distinct impression that for a sizeable % of men (myself included) the feel/visuals of facial-PCH far outweigh the psychosexual urge to "feed" a woman.

however, given the Mbytes of posts on this topic (on various boards) it seems i'm in the minority on this one








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Perhpas I am old fashioned ... I find nothing stimulating or sexual in coming in a woman's mouth. I would view this to be an act of humiliating her.

On the other hand, coming inside of her vagina, with full explosiion of sexual tension, sexual release, for both sides, will be the sexual nirvana for me ...

C'mon guy this is too easy. No fancy books on psychology or human sexuality needed here. It's about acceptance; Pure & simple. The antithesis would be CBJ

I enjoy hugs, and kisses -- both potentially intense gestures of acceptance.  But, CIM?  That's a whole different ball game.  I know it feels different for me.  

And I can't envision Anabolic coming out with "Hug Shots #24" with any expectation of a profit.[grin]

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I was thinking about the last 30 years of having sex and I realized I have never had just a bj covered or uncovered.  It's either been a handjob if I was at a massage parlor or if I got by kissing, then intercourse with a partner or provider.  I guess I always thought of oral sex as foreplay rather than the end.  As I have gotten older I am now longer able to climax 3-4 times in a hour like some of the younger bulls so I always make sure I get to intercourse.  That is part of the reason I like overnights because for me, it means 3-4 sexual interactions plus fun time to go dance or whatever.

I suppose part of the fun of the week with one provider is the opportunity to have oral sex to completion without feeling I have wasted something.

As to coming in someone's mouth, that really seems like a control issue especially when in porn movies, you see the guy holding the girls head with two hands and smearing it all over her.  You hardly ever see them just taking it in their mouth beacuse the audience needs to see the ejaculate to confirm the actor actually came.  Maybe if I do it once,then ???

Isn't CIM enough?  Why do some men feel the need to furhter humiliate their partner by asking them to swallow?  Of course, if the woman does it freely and enjoys it, that's a different
story. What happens between two consenting adults..etc.

As for me, I don't CIM or give facials either.

I don't enjoy it if the woman appears unhappy or forced.  The more she appears to enjoy herself, the more turned on I become.  

I'm not trying to be contrary here, I'm just trying to focus the discussion.

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I most strongly concure on the Hugs & Kisses sentimente "Low" thats why as costly as it is GFE is the only way for me.
  I just feel a very intense satisfaction, connection and gratitude when a lady treats me to BBBJTC&S. In terms of YMMV It's like I got a solar powered car.
  Now look at what you've gone and done "Low". You got this otherwise chivalrous o'l gent talking in (harsh) acronyms..I hope you're proud of yourself.

  FR225  

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Since we are talking psychology, the picture you painted for me is you giving part of your body as her last meal.  ( guess you must me thinking I could be cast as Judas LOL, grin) So is it some sacrament kind of deal where one of you is sacrificing something to forgive sin?  I slept through freshmen psych and never wanted to be a shrink so I don't know.

I just know as you describe it, it is avery powerful image and something I am going to have to explore.

Time for me to shut up and listen to what other people have to say

Unfortunately, I was only able to swallow only 2 clients that I had seen, this whole year...the reason? : their sperm didn't taste like it was mutated with alot of crap in it. One guy who came in my mouth, it made me want to run into the bathroom and throw up Another guy  who I had seen, came on my breasts, and his cum looked more like urine than the usual white-see thru cum, and I was happy that I never had him cum in my mouth. Also, I just seen a guy last week, and I had accidently swallwed some of his  cum, when the time permitted, I was "allowed" to run to the bathroom, and wash and rinse, and I began to throw up from the acid taste that had loomed in my stomach, after brushing my teeth and rinsing with mouth wash...

Lets face it, NOT all cum tastes equal Which makes it sad, for I would really like to perform for my client all abilities, that I know that I do possess, but am able to, because of the taste

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I agree with LOW, to me it doesn't seem to be a control thing at all.  It's a big turn on for me when BBBJTC is sought by the provider, and I think would be kind of a turn off if I felt like I was pushing it on her through force or through surprise.

My theory (and this applies only to me) is that it's a combination of two factors.  First, the purely physical aspect of being able to receive the really intense stimulation of BBBJ all the way through the finish.

Second is the acceptance thing someone else mentioned.  It seems like in every other activity, cum has at least one negative apect that must be protected against, cleaned up, avoided, etc.  BBBJTC is the only time when cum is treated like it's not a bad thing, and with the right provider, like it's actually wanted.  I suspect that's the real psychology of it.

A bonus would be that a BBBJTC provider also is free to deliver "PCH", the post cum head discussed in previous threads.  The high of a big "O" can be extended several minutes by judiciously applying attention to the head--gradually increasing the focus at the same rate that the hypersensitivity is wearing off is almost like having a 3-5 minute finish.

All the providers I know who provide this service are alone and very lonely no significant others.  Sure the're hot in your eyes but truth is, no guy wants them for a permanent relationship because the've provided this service to half the population. I guess a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do.

I don't think it gets him all hot and bothered however I do feel like a female letting him CIM and her taking the time to play with it afterwards does.  For most guys as long as that happens he could care less if she swallowed or spit it out.  What I do think though, is that the guys who do enjoy a woman to swallow are pleased with the fact that she enjoys him enough to swallow his bodily fluids as for the guys who like facials.......Im going to leave that alone.  Someone responded earlier that they felt asking a woman to swallow is degrading, I don't, however I do feel facials are.

Please keep in mind these are IMHO and from experiences I have had with guys...I could be wrong in most cases.

Apparently, there are quite a few dietary dos and don'ts involved in producing appetizing semen.  I've attached a link that (while a little odd) is fairly comprehensive.  

There are also a number of products out there that advertise to improve the taste (they all work by increasing the level of glucose in the fluid) of semen, as well.  

If I knew my wife and I were going to mess around, for three days prior to the event, I'd avoid red meat, garlic, and onions, and I'd load up on foods high in fructose, such as strawberries and apples (avoiding the skin).

I still don't think she would have ordered it in a restaurant, but at least the evening was pleasant for her as well.

For the record, by the way, my wife knew of my preparations, and CIM and NQNS were never more than optional for her.  For that matter, the whole thing was optional.  If she didn't enjoy herself, then neither did I.

I would imagine that you're trying to start something. Let's just say that you're incorrect and leave it at that.

It's sometimes too easy to overcomplicate matters.  First, CIM feels very, very good.  Second, lots of women love it.
Beats me why someone needs to dissect pleasurable acts like oral sex and, for that matter, intercourse.
For those, male or female, in whom it brings up psychological redolences, don't do it if you don't like, do it if you do.
EOM

and, I guess you're right:  It's the CIM that's the bigger deal.  

But, I do remember it detracting from the moment if my wife, after performing this incredibly intimate act, would scamper to the bathroom to spit out and flush.

But, why is there an entire industry out there catering to those who want to see sperm swallowed?  Believe me -- and you can tell from my posts -- I'm NOT into domination or control.  And I have to believe that such is the case for many of the guys who find swallowing to be gratifying.

Where the earlier replies right?  IS it just an acceptance thing?

I was just using hyperbole to paint a verbal picture of a woman who intensely enjoys swallowing semen.  I had no intent to infringe on the purview of the Almighty.[grin]

CIM just feels better. Purely a physical sensation.  Soft, warm, wet lips and mouth coaxing you through (not just to) completion.

The swallowing part is no doubt psychological. It does nothing for me unless it gives her a lot of satisfaction.

Look; I'm not a PHD. It IS very much an acceptance thing for me but in NO way a domination or a control issue. I've never requested it let alone demanded it. It has always been a wonderful & unexpected "Gift" given freely by my partner.  

  You have brought up the popularity of this practice in pornography. If I may remind you "Porno" is there to feed the appetite. Whether it's straight "Vanilla" sex or the most depraved practices in the human sexual theater. Pornography is there to exploit, feed upon and profit from every perversion. A very popular "perversion" IS dominance & control, CIM & Swallowing obviously lend themselves to to this particular fetish.

  At this time I would like to take the soap box and address all the gents to an understanding or belief that no matter what is mentioned on a Providers profile(Menue) It is ultimately up to her discretion what she will treat you to. "YMMV"

 Lets treat each other with respect and gratitide.

 FR225  


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In retrospect, drawing inferences from pornography WAS kind of circular in its logic.  Thanks for setting me straight.

I'm pondering all kinds of different things here. First, LoW, I'd say to you that there are porn movies out there for every taste in the universe. The cumshot is one, indeed, as are old women... big women... I mean really anything you want... anal... big tits... GIANT tits... whatcha want, take your pick?

Really the only point I'm making there is that among human beings, we share lots of the same tastes. I mean there are GAZILLIONS of men who love HUGE tits.... and others who could give a flying phuck or actively dislike them. Variety is the spice of life, and all that good stuff!

Now, I will say that I think the whole appeal of CIM/swallowing is hmmm... well it's visual... it's erotic... it completes the experience... and it's a kind of *conquering* is it not? A way of saying, YES, MINE, and knowing that this woman is taking this for you and enjoying it for you and with you. Not being forced, because if she is being forced she isn't really "conquered," so to speak, is she? She is being marked as the object of your desire and the cause of your explosion all at once. Just a thought!

Hugs*
Nicole

Well, I'm sure it feels good (sensual); it looks good (visual) and then it makes you feel good sexually to know that she would share EVEN that with you, as far as it can go (the 'acceptance' thing you're all saying).
I must say that my SO's is the 'best' tasting (and sperm is rather vile!) I have ever encountered and he gets lapped up, every drop..

I concede, you -- and they -- are right, Nicole.  In addition, you've provided in interesting insight.  Thanks.

I should know because I was told by someone I was very interested in that my reviews were too graphical and detailed and knowing I provided this service to others prevented him from making a commitment.

And I personally know several notable exceptions to your rule in the provider community that have long-term boyfriends and are also highly regarded for their oral skills.  

This post says a lot about your attitude on this whole subject, but I'm not sure it's as universally shared as you may believe.

Why I love receiving BJs:
* there's no pressure...I don't have to worry whether she's getting what she needs to cum.  Don't get me wrong, I love to make women cum but I like to focus.  Which is why, though I love oral, I don't like 69 that much.  When receiving oral, I like how we're both focused on me at that time.  The same idea when giving.

Why I love receiving BBBJ:
* besides being a prerequisite for CIM, condoms don't work for me anymore.  Its extremely hard for me to cum with condoms which is why I really don't enjoy intercourse as much as I used to.  I haven't had condomless intercourse since the 80s.  I would love to experience that again though in a relationship someday (I hope).

Why I love to CIM:
* Part of it is the anticipation...knowing that when I'm feeling my orgasm shooting down my spine as the cum is pulsing out of my cock that she is feeling my cum pouring into her mouth.  It only turns me on if there is consent though.  Talking about it beforehand gets me really turned on and draws the experience out longer.  Psychologically, I had a punishing mother so acceptance is a big part of this for me I think.  Also, receiving reassurance (I won't be punished for what I'm about to do) is very meaningful to me.  Its probably also a way to feel like I'm in control or experience a degree of dominance.

Why I adore women who swallow:
* Knowing a woman is going to swallow for me before I cum makes me extremely aroused.  I feel that this is the most loving act a woman can perform for me and it invariably brings out deeply loving feelings in me.  I feel so cared about that a woman would do this despite it being somewhat unpleasant for her and feeling that she must really like me if she does this for me.  I also feel really close to a woman who does this...like she knows my darkest secret and I can finally be comfortable with her.

Nice honest approach to a fantasy--here's to you!



Joey

It's one of the more outrageous posts I've read on these boards.  And one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

If anything, BBBJTC will help to keep a SO very, very happy.

How a person interacts with another person hasa nothing to do with CIM and if anyting would probably reflect more on the male

thought you might be starting a new religion and I was definitely going to quit my day job and become one of your disciples (LOL, GRIN)

For the simple reason I find them all hugely erotic.  I don't do anything in my escorting that I don't enjoy in my 'recreational' sex life.  I love the feeling of a man's semen in my mouth or on my body, it's a huge turn on. If I didn't enjoy it I wouldn't do it. If I did it and I hated it them it would be degrading.  It can hardly be degrading when it gives me much enjoyment.

I love to be "feed" and I find it very arousing as well, feeling that warm, "Life Juice" flowing down my throat, knowing I've taken my partner to Nirvana with just my mouth, is very hot, and the cum is my reward for being so good (saucy grin). It's one of the most healthy substances known, containing protien, vitamins, Hormones & collegin(sp?)Yummmm.!!!. I also love it all over my body, since all of those things are exellent for the skin. Oh, a little known fact, Cleopatra not only bathed in milk, she also enjoyed cum rubbed on her body, before a hot bath. It makes your skin like silk...I should know. *wink*

If these providers are lonely when they lay their heads down at night it's because they don't want or just haven't found a SO. Not because of their menue of services. With the number of posts & threads on these boards concerning hobbyists developing real feelings for their providers/ATFs this whole statement by safe sex seems somewhat inconcievable.

... you should perhaps reread her post. totally different meaning!

[sigh]

it's the "madonna/whore" syndrome most men struggle with. we want them HOT but if they get too HOT and nasty, then they're SLUTS and must be treated as such, meaning never being relationship material. on a lesser scale, that's what most civilian women struggle with too: whether or not to sleep with a man on the first date and what the (inevitable) consequences may be.

i'm not speaking for myself, that's just how the mentality goes.

Only drawback is when it gets in my hair

I prefer CIM over facials because after a hour of hair preparation: getting hair washed, blown dry, applying six different kinds of hair products, teased just the right way to achieve that "natural windblown look", then sprayed to hold down that carefree look...and then to have a thick wad of white stuff miss my face and land in my hair, so I have to wash it and start all over again......well, let's just say CIM is much better for us girls with long hair!

I may have exaggerated a bit, but you get my drift.  

with the right person.  My main drawback is when it is not as tasty as it could be.  I also agree that if youre not into something and you do it anyway it does take the pleasure out of it...that is why I dont do things that I feel are degrading.  Like facials I would never do just because I feel thats degrading.  One thing I dont get are the guys who say that they are bothered by a girl who gets up after she delivers PCH to spit, I usually head to the bathroom wether Im going to spit or I swallowed because the smell of cum on the breath isn't the best especially if you still have a few more rounds to go.  And when you cum on a girl or in her(for those with SO) its kind of messy too so she has to head to the bathroom too.

I just re-read the post.  I find nothing in it suggesting SafeSex is male or female.  Either way, I stand by my comment.

I don't like it either when my SO heads to the bathroom after I fill her with cum. Use a kleenex in bed and stay with me for some more cuddling please.

Yep - evidence of a premature posting I'm afraid, although the first comment by SafeSex that I was replying to wasn't gender specific.

I'd agree if a female/provider  she's more deserving of sympathy and attaching absence of or failure of  relationships to this specific act (wrongly IMHO) is a crutch to lean on.

If a male comment or 'stirring it up' it's simply evidence of a misoginistic tendancy from a troubled spite-filled individual (and is just as inaccurate).

This is slightly off topic, but I can't resist posting it.  From the February 14, 2003 Wall Street Journal:

"Might semen have antidepressive effects? Psychologists at the State University of New York in Albany, led by Gordon Gallup, have now analyzed responses from 1,000 female college students on a standard 20-question index of depression. Those who did not use condoms had significantly fewer symptoms of depression than did women who had protected sex, they report. The first group scored around 8, the second around 13 (the high teens and 20s suggest clinical depression). That five-point spread has odds of only 1 in 1,000 of being due to chance.

The difference had nothing to do with such obvious suspects as frequency of sex, having a long-term relationship or using oral contraceptives (the latter is linked to depression). Instead, the explanation might lie in the biochemical contents of semen, which include estrogens, prostaglandins and neurotransmitters. Many are absorbed into the woman's bloodstream. No researchers have taken the obvious next step of measuring blood levels of these compounds in condom users and nonusers, though, let alone of probing any related brain changes. And the study didn't address the depressing risks of disease some face by not using condoms."

Now if introducing semen into the vagina is that effective in preventing depression, imagine how effective it would be it the semen was swallowed!

WE all use a bathroom for many reasons: to wash, rinse, and dispose of. A bathroom was made for those reasons. Until that day, when God or my mother tells me, that the bathroom was actually made to hold poker games in, I will politely excuse myself, dispose of, and rinse with the bottle of listerine that I have. Just because you spit in a napkin/cloth/whatever, does not mean, that the taste is gone:  it's still there lol  Also, would you rather have a woman who rinses her mouth so she can kiss you with a clean, minty breath versus  a stinky one?

Mel

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Thanks for this post...I knew this, but didn't want to do a Google search to find all the proof for my earlier post...You did the work for me...Thanks Sweetie...!!!

Although his core thoughts, seminal retention, do not settle well with western thinking he had some intersting things to say about energy level and semen.  As I recall Chia went to great lengths explaining lifetime sperm production, potential life it could create, the natural energy of said life thus the life force energy contained within semen.  His evidence, or a small segment of it, suggested such life force and energy is unmistakably evident after the act when the man typically tires quickly and falls off to sleep where the woman's reaction to said energy transferrance is quite the opposite.  I must say his stuff was interesting reading considering the overall theme...cultivating sexual energy!            

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