and I am not talking about talk and cuddle time.

As much, for me, as I enjoy the time chatting with (some of) the ladies, it is still just a time to let "things" rest a bit before moving forward to move fun. The quality of the time between directly affects the quality of everything else.

I am not saying that you should do things the same way, but if you (the OP) are looking at the provider as an AHJM (Automated HJ Machine), then get yourself a "Popeil Pocket Pussy".

Thanks for those constructive responses to my post about "quick pops" yesterday. With only a couple of exceptions, the posts were good and made me think.

Special thanks to Anon. She pointed out something I had not thought about. That it took the same amount of time for her to screen, get ready, drive to incall or outcall wether I lasted 5 minutes or 45. I guess, thinking only of myself, I had not thought of that. It was good to get a provider's perspective.

It's good women providers and clients alike can see across the aisle in these threads and come to some middle ground in person.

The good thing is a lot of providers are flexible.
Even though it takes the same amount of time to prepare once you have a relationship with a lady its reasonable to approach the topic.

I know that I have some clients who orgasm within moments of touching or kissing me.  Do I charge them the same as my other clients?  Absolutely not, it would be highway robbery to do so unless they were the type who visit specifically for companionship...but they're not, they're there for playtime.  If I can't prolong it I offer alternatives on a case-by-case basis.

I really appreciate those kind words.

I'm afraid I'm one of those that can cum within moments.

And after the act, if I stay for awhile and just chat (not trying to be rude)....aren't we just wasting each other's time ?

Speak for yourself, I am north of fifty, and I can actually get twentysomething year old pussy the old fashioned way. On ocassion of course, which is why I hobby. lol

But my point remains, if I can even ocassionally get a twenty to thirty something into my bed for free, there must be something  besides the sex. even for another old fucker like myself.

If OTOH, a woman is strictly a "sperm receptacle" for you, than by all means seek out the women that offer quickies, anything else would simply be a waste of money for you, but don't claim to speak for the rest of us "old fuckers"

again, if your personal needs and desires do not extend beyond that which can be done alone, with some hand lotion and a washcloth, then yes, it would indeed be a waste of time for you to "stay and chat." however believe it or not, the needs of most men tend to be a bit more complex. the warmth of a kind and gentle human touch, smiles and laughter shared between two people who have an actual connection, caring and compassion, true intimacy beyond knowing the make and model of each others genitalia...and for many men (all who see me personally), acceptance above all else. knowing that there is someone who will accept and embrace them as they are, without judgment or criticism.

there are some men i see who, once sexual activity is actually taking place, finish very quickly. however that means nothing to us, as that is not the point of our time together. an orgasm marks neither the beginning nor end of the experience.

Why would a beautiful 20 or 30 something year old provider want to spend time with an old, overweight, balding  50 or 60 year old man ?

I understand it's a business for the ladies...that's why I don't want to waste her time. It's been said before, it's a business for the ladies and a fantasy for the men. Now there are providers that are better actesses than others and can make one feel like it's different. But, let's be real people.

for some of us, it is just a business, nothing more. economics 101. for others it is a lovely way of combining business and pleasure...being able to provide a comfortable living for themselves while doing something they genuinely enjoy. and for a few of us (like me), it is not about business at all. i enjoy spending time with each man i see...if i didn't, i never would have chosen (or kept) them as clients. they all enrich my life, and a precious few have become very dear friends whom i will treasure my whole life long. and with a couple, green pieces of paper are no longer exchanged. i do not provide a fantasy for my clients, i deal in reality only. it can be oh so much sweeter than any fantasy, and a heck of a lot more enduring.

Lilli, you are truly a gem!  Your thoughtful considerate reply shows just how special you are.  I for one would certainly enjoy meeting a woman such as yourself!