Hi Folks,   I fairly new around these parts, so forgive me if I step on anyone’s toes or cover ground that’s already been covered.   There have been some posts that I read that make we wonder  about things.

For example, do ever think about the providers like they were just plain old “normal” girls that have an unusual occupation – or do they have to exist in a fantasy world that you create?

For example .. the question about providers getting off.   Does it seem reasonable to say that they DO … but maybe not as often as you think?   Doesn’t it stand to reason that if you’re a first time client and you ‘dive right in’ so to speak, to try to prove your manliness by licking her to oblivion, that PERHAPS she might fake it just a little – because she sees you want a fantasy?  Whereas if you’ve seen her a couple times and you’re both more comfortable … that she doesn’t feel the need to be ‘on stage’ every second of your session?

We talk a lot about the GFE – the girlfriend experience.  What we really mean is that we want a girlfriend in every sense of the word … that will just ‘go away’ when it’s inconvenient for us to have one, isn’t it?  Well, consider your last ACTUAL girlfriend:  There were times when she didn’t FEEL LIKE it, but did it anyway.  Didn’t want you to make her come .. just wanted to please YOU.    If your girlfriend never even once told you “sometimes, I’d like you to just be a man, take what you want and then go about your business”  I guarantee she confided that to a friend of hers about you.  Is that callous?   I don’t think so.  She’s entitled to her moods just like we have ours.  The difference is when WE “don’t feel like it”  we don’t book the appointment (which assumes that we don’t ALWAYS feel like it).

She has a different problem.  She has all the same real life things we have, cars, kids (maybe) ex husbands,etc. –all of which can screw up her day in a heartbeat .. PLUS … she has US to deal with:  Suppose that the client earlier that day was everything you aren’t?  Which is to say, ugly, unclean, rotten disposition and a cheesy smell.    If she’s the kind of professional you hope she is .. she’ll make the best of it .. or at least try … but you have to admit ..  you coming in next could be the highlight of her day …. OR the last straw.

If you expect her to always be a fantasy, then you’re going to get a girl that is always ‘on stage’ and probably won’t let you close enough to get that ‘special feeling’ from her.   If you relax and just let things flow a natural course, maybe she will too.   If it’s a low energy session … let it be – don’t give her a bad review or stop seeing her.   Try again another time – see if she remembers that you were a cool, laid back (and did I mention witty, bright and handsome?) guy … see where she takes it.

All I’m saying here is that if you have it in your mind that you’re the manly man that’s going to rock her world EVERY time you see her … you might find that … over time … she looks at you as something she has to ‘endure’ rather than an experience to look forward to.    If you like a provider well enough to want to meet the ‘real her’  then you have to be the ‘real you.”     Unless you’re an asshole.  Then try to be more like me.   No .. wait … on second thought that isn’t even working for ME …..

Good though!

Are the points you raise valid, probably.  Do we need another lecture about them, probably not.

I hate it when newbies try to lecture the masses!  We've been here forever!  Don't you think this has been said/considered prior to your arrival or are you some omipotent being with the wisdom of the ages?  

Geeesssee! I hate having to return a lecture!

Look, I happen to have a wonderful wife and I do hobby.  Do I find a conflict there, yes, but that is between myself and my Maker.  I take every precaution to protect all parties involved and I don't shirk my duties in any regard.  The income I spend is mine to dispose of and no one in my family is suffering for it.

I realize the value of a SO/Wife in my life and handle the issues as needed.  I take care of myself, bathe regularly, stay well and treat my wife like a goddess in public and the little love-bitch she is in the bedroom.  For 25 years, she has always been a handful in the bedroom and continues to be that way to this day.  Are there times she is NOT in the mood, certainly.  We deal with those times as they occur, no problems encountered.

Now, why do I hobby?  Variety!  I am 48 years old and I happen to enjoy the company (intimately) of a younger woman from time to time.  I also enjoy women of color, different social backgrounds and variety in their educational status.  I love to enjoy submissive women, dominate women, sassy women, etc.  In short, I enjoy different aspects of women besides my wife, but also including my wife.

Due to hobbying, I don't have affairs with my co-workers (and some of them are not only down-right gorgeous, but available as well) and I don't expend my financial/emotional capital on other women.  Providers know the deal and are there as paid, attentive companions.  I give them joy and respect when we are together.  I am a gentleman and a good lover (by attribution) when we are together.

I certainly don't speak for anyone here but myself, so my comments are from me to you exclusively.  If others care to comment, feel free.  Finally, if you find my comments disturbing, I'll say I am sorry in advance.

So please, get off the soap box (and so will I).  Remember, you are new to this arena.  You might consider reading more than you write for some time to come.  

Don't bother with flaming if you don't agree, because I personally don't give a rat's ass.

Just my opinion & I could be wrong (but on this one, I doubt it).



-- Modified on 7/16/2003 6:32:43 AM

lol Lothran

Don't assume that just because I haven't posted before that I'm new to the board or the Hobby

Well, to quote your own posting ....

" Hi Folks,   I fairly new around these parts, ...."

So, if you are running around with a new handle to hide whatever your old handle was, and you make statements like the one above, what are the rest of us to assume?

fine

Well Lothran ...

Henry Ford once said "Thinking is just about the hardest thing a man can do, which probably explains why so few actually engage in it."   I honestly would have no idea what you think, or why you think it.  Perhpas 'new around these parts' meant actually POSTING on the board rather than just reading it.   Or maybe it means that I was in 'the hobby' before it was a hooby, before there was TER and maybe am simply new to TER?   Could be a lot of things and in a free country, what you think is one of the protected things that's just between you, your conscience and I'm sure, that court appointed pshychiatrist.

As long as I feel the desire, I'll post what I want, whenever I feel I have something to contribute, be it informative, sarcastic, or actually serious.  And I hope you do, too.

What I will do, from here on out, is show the taste, style and grace to just ignore replies that seem to have no informative value and appear only to be mean to someone because I don't like the fact that they posted it.

In other words, it would probably be better for me, and for the community in general to challenge WHAT I say, WHY I say it and most important ... the ideas, concepts and rationale behind what I say ... not just the fact that I said it.

Now this particular thread doesn't seem to have a lot of general value and probably is boring the rest of Hobby Humanity to death, so I invite you to take up whatever challenge you feel into private Emails and spare the innocent

...Oh no...not Strother Martin again...

Cheers!

I think you need to get layed.