We need to continue to expose any major sites that participate in bait & switch, because it is wire fraud in interstate commerce, a deceptive trade practice, and it rips off members for $$. You find this when you least suspect it, and it taints everything else about the site, such as reviews and Top rankings.

In planning a missionary trip to Prague, I made a list of 70 must-see ultravixens. On this list were Marta and Katka among others from Kristynaescort.cz. Check them out on the link, first. Major eye candy. Then go to Belledejour.net, a SoFla-based newish national traveling vix site. Marta appears on Belle as Maya. Katka appears as Tamara. Try booking them in Ft Lauderdale. LOL. There are no US reviews perhaps because they've never been in the US or within 5000 miles hereof.

Belle also gets very regular reviews of girls who do exist in the US, here on TER, almost every other day, always very favorable. Hmmm. Makes you wonder if that too has any element of systematic false advertising?

To top it off, the owner of Belle is ranked #1 on TBD Top List for the Southeast and #3 nationally. Isn't it common knowledge that those rankings were for sale and/or barter?

It makes you wonder how widespread is this fraud that is so deceptive and harmful to TER members. This is something that TER needs to allow posting on. Otherwise TER becomes a party to the falsities.

seems like this problem would be better handled in the "site review" area of ter rather than here in the discussion board.

unfortunately, i wasn't able to get much information out of the site review part of this site: the city links were all nonfunctional, and the buttons get you to search result pages with zero hits.

why not a "rip off site" designation in the site reviews? however, it may be hard to claim fraud just because the same pictures appear on different sites. there *are* international escort rings, one was busted a few weeks ago.

Hey poon thanks for the heads up or should I say thanks for the
eyes open on the possible scam going on with the belle de jour
thing, I was really looking at the gal jasmine on there site,
she was supposed to be visiting my town in september and I send
a email to them expressing my interest but got no reply from
them, so now maybe I won't be so easy to believe the reviews
that have been posted on the reviews of the gals of belle de jour
until I do deeper research, play safe and stay safe

Disclaimer: I have yet to see any Belle De Jour girls.  They are coming to LA one week from today.  A number of LA hobbyists are interested including me.  We will find out the truth soon enough.

There are Czech escorts visiting US cities most of the time.  During May, a Czech girl named Lucie came to LA for a month and worked for one of the popular agency in LA.  At the same time, she also worked for her European agency.  Here is the link to a recount of our fellow member callst’s encounter of Lucie working for her European agency.  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/callst/files/escort/lucie.html .  This is a link to an ad page in EscortSmart Database about an escort from Prague, Marie
http://www.escortsmart.com/escort_list2.asp?origin=location&place=CZ;Czech%20Republic;;;Prague
who is the same person as Lucie (Her height is understated there).  (Thanks to bobsocks2 for providing the link)

After Lucie left in May, her picture in the LA agency remains until mid-June.  It happened to a few other girls that left that agency.  When called about the availability of the girl, the dispatcher simply said that she is not available, retired or on vacation.  The turn around time for an update on a web site could be a few weeks as the owner usually don’t want to pay a web designer for minor changes.  It could also be the case that maintaining a certain amount of pictures makes a site looked more resourceful.

Even with phantom girls, as long as there is no bait and switch, I don’t think it is a big thing.  (Don’t know whether this is in fact what happened with the Belle De Jour girls, although there are lots of Europeans traveling and staying in South Florida).

As far as reviews of Belle De Jour (BDJ) girls are concerned, let me give them a close look.

Please check messages posted above.  (The study will be posted in stages)

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# 1 I do run Belle de Jour and photograph many of the girls of Belle De Jour myself. If a she is not a regular BDJ girl and does not want me to take photos of her but is willing to work, I’ll send her to do a few dates with gentleman I know, if he tells me the girls is not GFE I do not push the issue to photograph her because I probably won’t be sending her out on a lot of calls, there were a few girls in particular who called me when I first opened up BDJ and asked if they could work with me. They were referred from a client so I did not question them if the pix were real I assumed they were honest and I believe the client, I believe them. this is my nature and this may have burned me. Anyone who knows me in L.A. or anywhere else knows I am a straight shooter, I do not bullshit, nor do I have to bullshit. I am as real as they come. I am sure people will question if I have ever done PENTHOUSE & the cover, yes I did but who cares, that was then, this is now and now I’m one of the best escorts around, read the reviews.

    I used these girls that are being referred above not a lot but they were and are still reliable, but not what you would call GFE, I feel that term is over rated, but is the best was to describe a girl that gives a loving personal and friendly experience.

    The bios that are on my site, if they are written by the girl herself she may describe herself as a GFE, weather they are a GFE or not maybe depend on how the escort and the client respond to one another. The term GFE might be more trouble than it is worth.
Coming back to the subject,  I sometimes go off on tangents because I hate typing so much but I felt I should address this issue, which happens to be very important, maybe not to you guys but it is to me.

    This issue with these 2 supposed girls is bothering the shit out of me, as you can see I am posting this at 3:15 am east coast time.

    I do not take these things lightly and if I find out that these girls sent me bullshit photos off the web I will be very pissed to say the least. I want to speak freely here, because I don't want to come off like a prima donna, I am not, but the words I want to say you may or may not want to hear. I am f*cking mad right now that I had to hear about this from a couple of my LA clients.
I also have a question for the local FL guy here that posted this, why didn't you call me yourself, I would have appreciated the news coming from you first,  I am only a county away. If these girls did this they will be pulled off the site and the pics of who they say they are will be pulled down.  I will notify other agency down here that I know,  if these girls approach them to not let them do to them what they did to me.

    I also want to state that I have incredible girls, they all get great reviews on TBD AND TER, they deserve those reviews.

    I have a great knack of matching the wonderful men who call me everyday with the special girls I send them. I am very lucky to be working with some of the girls on my site.
As I said earlier in my post, I photograph a lot of the girls myself, you will notice in many of the photos on the site, the background is of my home in south Florida, my bed, couches, pool, the lake in my backyard, the settings are real. I am in about seven shots that were taken of me last week. It took me forever to get around to taking some of myself. Some people said the backgrounds are too similar, but I like it that way because you can see some of the girls in the same background, it almost like a verification of the girls on the site, because you know I took the pictures.

I have NO association with Belle de Soir.

    I would also like to say that because of all this posting, my voice mail has to be constantly emptied out and my email is just getting out of hands so if any of the guys I know are writing me about next week, check your email I sent out the dates to you.

    Also.. Jasmine is going to have to re-schedule her dates to LA due to her moms serious illness. She has not been back to Florida since her NY/ BOSTON trip and she is just going to work around the northeast area for now. She is originally from CT. and that is why she has been working around there lately. Tabitha from Vancouver will be with me in LA.

    So once again I am going to address this issue seriously ,I just wish it were handled a little different by some people on this board.
I know they mean well but I am just a phone call away.

Thank you & be safe,
from the real SHAUNA )

954-227-8580



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Mano, you seem to have a lot of... um... ah... time on your hands.... OHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

So Shauna won't see you, Eh?

Agree with you that "Poon Over Miami" is a little sore that he can't get an appointment to see Shauna.

I have seen Shauna and I know I would be severly depressed if I couldn't see Shauna again!

Now BlindGuy, don't be deaf and dumb too.
I've never even been interested in seeing Shauna.
Never been in the same Cities where she lives or tours at the same time. For my taste she's been around too much, too long, with too many guys. The high Top List TBD factor is a real downer and taint as well.
Several hundred if not a few thousand guys have had no difficulty seeing Shauna, but this one is not interested.
What bothered me, however, was the fraudulent use of pics from a Czech (not Russian) website with which I was familiar. That's it.
Fraud bothers me. Bait & switch bothers me.
Then the obfuscation from her shills began.
Still the pics are up.