Perhaps I misinterpreted the previous "barter" thread, that's possible.

There's a girl out there some where who would enjoy some.

...lasts longer than the afterglow of the time they spent with the provider.  A year later they're not saying: "Wow, she fucked the living hell out of me",  they're saying: "Yeah, I got her to knock 200 bucks off."

I think some feel that bartering is a "good desk." I actually swap and barter small things a lot in my mundane life (Tuesday I wound up swapping my neighbor a measuring cup for four avocados--spur of the moment and good deal for us both). But the reason we invented money was to facilitate trade, so...

I don't care to spend any of my session time trying to Jew a woman down, I'm there to have fun and it's best to not discuss the donation anyway, correct?

You wanna pay top dollar each and every time? Be my guest.  

But in business world there is always a little bit give and take.  I am not saying one "has to" negotiate, but there is nothing wrong in that... One should always price their product/service with keeping in mind that the buyer can walk away if you are too adamant to negotiate. Sometimes you can afford that, sometimes you can't.  

Negotiations happen, but mostly on her terms, not his. You will have the outliers and those that fall on the straight line. In a perfect world, every guy would be on the straight line, smell good, and have shaved balls, but the outliers make the whole thing fun don't you think? Never expect less, but more is always great! And sometimes, negotiations are just never worth it but it really depends on the guy and as it is said YMMV.

My guess I will have to rethink my strategy for getting dates with escorts.

Even in Israel  LOL

Don't tell other guys how to hobby if you want to pay whatever you're quoted go right ahead.

If she agrees that your car is worth $5K, and you agree that her services are worth $700 for 2 hours, then it should be simple.

In this case where pussy is whats being rented, I would say you are right.  

Russ is one of the smartest guys I've known through the boards..

I understand you analogy, and perhaps you're right, I am thinking about it from a scientific perspective. I could never exist in a career field that is based on negotiation, as it frustrates me terribly. This thing is priced at $200, if I want it, I pay $200, if I don't want to pay $200 then I guess I don't want it badly enough. That's just the way I think, and in this sport, we shouldn't be discussing the money, right?

I've never had a client negotiate paying me for four hours but only staying for two.  Can you imagine the uproar that would create if I offered that as a negotiating item?!  Yet, how often does a client want to stay over the contracted time?  Frequently.  Where exactly is the "give and take" here?

And its always people saying you, me, Panthera, etc are the "angry" and "hateful" ones.

Personally, very sad to say that we are not missing Ryan Zimmerman. He is my all time favorite player, and just a class act.  The first player I ever met in person and got autographed ball from.

As a matter of fact, I personally, never stay over contracted time. If I agreed to pay for 1 hr, I am putting on my pants at 55 min.  

Not to worry because you guys have the division

be negotiated:

And Zach Walters has worked out pretty well for the Tribe, he's had some very timely hits. Honestly though, the Nats have a much better chance to go deep in the playoffs, than do the Tribe. But it's still fun to watch.

I negotiate for food, gas, electric and so on ALL the time.  It's a given from my POV.  Why in the fuck would you NOT file appeals on your real estate taxes?  Are you that insane?????

And I clearly used jew as a slang verb, not as a noun.

they are worth every penny they ask for and if you don't think so, DON'T CALL THEM!!

of going to NLCS...Keeping fingers crossed...

with your display of dumbness especially with your car analogy. I really don’t remember the last time I paid the sticker price for a car. I bet most on the board didn’t either except, you

amenable to offers -

Which are financed through credit. I doubt if many are getting a good deal or a "bargain" there.

Since you don't negotiate/barter how the hell would you know if you were getting a "lackluster performance?"

To be clear, I haven't nor would I sell a car to a provider. My point, and I'll spell it out for you, is that if I had something to barter with such as a car, I would expect her to pay me for it, just as I pay her for her services. Trading this for that is a recipe for disaster it seems someone always feels slighted, in my opinion.

What does that stand for?  It's not in the Urban Dictionary.

sticking her finger up your ass. Then you've decided you want to change careers and go into the escort service. Are you going to negotiate with old, fat, smelly men and women or are you going to say "if you can't pay the you can't pay"? If you negotiate, then you must like old, fat, smelly people. Or your ass played with.

What am I jealous of?

No, I did not coin the phrase, I believe it was GaG or CPA, but I can't be sure.

I just had a sewer main bust out this summer...my plumbers come out and initially quoted me around $ 3,000 to "fix the problem".  However as they snaked to the village main they discovered another sewer break and wanted another $ 8,000 to fix the "entire breakage".  Being the cheap "Jew" that I am they settled on $ 9,000 for the repairs.  And only because they were already there and had dig up my fucking front yard  LOL

Especially when rents are due...the car is in the shop...the kids need something.

But some of the gals you've seen I know quite well.

Even if you finally end up with "your price" at some other joint...you've now spent XXX hours chasing some number that YOU think is the number YOU want.

I guess I'll have to defer to your ability to know this fact  LOL

Bragging about the deal you got on your colonoscopy....walking around with a condom hanging out of your ass. lmao!

I can afford each and every lady that I've seen "at rack rates". And, I'm very happy with the value I received, very happy. The Benjamin, or two, more that I've spent than what you spent will have just gone to charity when I expire. You can't take it with you when you go, might as well have fun while I'm here. And, for me anyway, I have no fun what so ever negotiating.

I trusted my hot doc when she said to "trust her".

Many pay cash.  No biggie there.

Here's a concept you haven't grasped: except in the USA, in MOST part of the world negotiating/bargaining/haggling IS A PART OF LIFE!

Or maybe it is meant this way,

And I guarantee you your sessions with ladies you don't try to devalue will be far better than those with whom you succeeded in getting a discount. Trust me- you don't want to be known as a guy who tries to pay less.

Whatever the stated price is I pay it.  If a provider is offering a special deal, Like a touring rate I will take her up on it, or not as my finances allow.  Price is a factor for me sometimes as to whether I will see a provider at all.  At this point in time, $400 for an hour is my ceiling and that means I hobby less often.  I will go higher only for multi hour sessions, and those are RARE.  I'm not made of money and I'm a one or two shot kind of guy anyway, more than 2 MSOG would take more cash than I have in time.  My personal best was 7 shots when I was in my 20's, but that took 8 glorious hours with a civvie GF who I wasn't paying.  Since entering my 40's, I haven't done more than 4 in an 8 hour period, with over an hour rest time after the first 2 which I can get out pretty quick.  So multi hour dates kind of are not my thing.
Now, if I have seen the gal before and we have comrade roe and she offers me a lower rate I'll take it, but I won't barter for it, nor haggle.  I pay the advertised rate.

An epithet is an epithet, no matter in what form it's used.  Here's a test for you.  Assuming you have any black friends, try telling one he's "N****r rich" and see how he reacts when you explain it wasn't racist because you used the N Word as an adjective.

Frankly when I hear that is when I know it's time to run the other way  

You should leave feeling like you got an amazing deal at her normal rate.  I give million dollar experiences for a couple grand.  

I guess I didn't think of it that way, but really I an not racist. I am a mutt, so how could I have any ill feelings towards any race, considering that I myself am a mixture. Besides, racism is a complete waste of time and energy.

People telling others or commenting in such a way to encourage others to do what they do or really taking the loser way out and being all passive aggressive with little comments etc to jab at the way others do things.  

To be clear, it's not an issue of being shameful or timid, it's that I simply don't enjoy it and I don't need to engage in it. I don't use Priceline or Kayak, if I want a flight, hotel or car I visit the company's web site. I've tried using Priceline in the past, but saving $10 or $20 is not worth getting stuck in a crappy hotel. I bought one thing on EBay, and the process and waiting was not even close to being worth the savings.

And if you are giving away a "million dollar experience" for only a couple grand than you are either a fool or are selling yourself short by $998,000. Or both.

Nice, courteous, and friendly. Just in the last two months I got waaaaaaaaaaaay more than I ever paid for.  

"Jew a woman down?" Really?  

"Slang verb?" Oh well, ok then. Never mind. Asswipe.  

What he said.  

How do I negotiate number of hours?  I don't understand what you mean by negotiate, I state my fee per hour and that's what I get.  I've never met you, you don't know me, and we have never had any secrets!
 

Posted By: JackDunphy

And if you are giving away a "million dollar experience" for only a couple grand than you are either a fool or are selling yourself short by $998,000. Or both.  
   
 And you negotiate your number of hours, correct? So it's ok for you and not others?  
   
 Again, don't worry about what other business transactions go down outside of your knowledge. Just let everyone here believe you don't negotiate. It will be our little secret.

Unless you take offense to being called a "jew" - I still believe it's not nice to do so.

Some enjoy the art of negotiating...to the bitter penny, lol...don't think it a cultural stereo type either...just like ebayers who will nickel and dime you over 5 bucks. For many it is almost a sport...like hunting.
It is funny though.