If you are paying say ohhhhhhhhh $50-$80 for an hour of a ladies time, what would you expect the incall to be like?

(I am not trying to say every lady who charges less is like this.  Please note this is something I have noticed by reading reviews.)

Anyways, I came across a couple of reviews in different cities, where guys paid girl $50 and $60 dollars for an hour of her time.  Wrote a review and then complained and bulked about her incall.

I'm sorry but this is where "you get what you pay for" comes into play IMO.  What do you expect the ladies incall to look like at those rates? Were you expecting a 5 star hotel or a guard gated mansion?  These guy complained about the location of the incall, the fact she had a blanket on the floor, the fact it wasn't a 3 star or better hotel.  Hell you can't even get a motel 6 right now for $50.  

So my next question is, how do you spend $50??

I could, almost fill up my gas tank in my truck.  I could buy a cartoon of smokes ALMOST.
I could almost pay my gas bill for my house.
I could buy a pack of diapers and a pack of wipes for my kids.
I could buy the stuff to make dinner for one night.
Mmmmmmm I could also buy my dog a bag of dog food.

I'd be truly scared to see a lady who charges $50-80 per hour.

And, as regards to the tone and expectations in the reviews you mentioned, we're all born with a sense of entitlement, but most of us grow out of it. A few don't.

Don't have a death wish!

What would you expect from a lawyer or doctor who charged that amount?

My guess is:  not much.

Say thank you for your time and walk back out.  Cause that's about all I could get from either for that price.

Could be uncle leo trying to set you up

Well Tasha, I can honestly say I would not even consider seeing a lady who charged that little. These guys would be better off givn themselves a HJ! Like you said, no room for them to complain about ANYTHING! They got what they wanted a cheap nut. Christ, half the fun is seeing a lady in a nice place, atmosphere, comfortable, safe for both. I regularly tip more than that... thanks for the thought sweets!

Nice, well furnished brand new house in a good neighborhood. I think I was there over an hour. Single chick. She must have done a lot of volume to make the mortgage payments.

I can see that cause most masseuses also have part time if not full time jobs as well.  And like I said, I generalizing not saying it includes everyone.

But seriously.  50-80 bucks for a full hour of FS and you're lucky her incall isn't a cardboard box behind the local supermarket IMO.

Dear mrfisher (still not an attorney, but who often has good advice):

Since the starting point for lawyers is seven years of higher education and for physicians eight years, their hourly rates are set in an attempt to recoup that investment (though in this economy often rates have been reduced).

The starting point for being a provider is having a female body, at least as far as my interests are concerned; no formal education required.

I have been a client of several providers whose rates were around or under $100 and had good experiences.

The $60 included a hand job and an exhibition of dog tricks.

I agree with you that guys shouldn't be complaining about a full service provider's incall at those rates. If I knew of a legitimate FS provider at those rates, I'd pick her up, drive her to my house, and take her back to her home (tent?) after we're done.

LMFAO!

I'm talking about guys playing at the bottom rate and then having the audacity to bitch about what the ladies incall is like.  I am sure there are some GREAT ladies at those rates.  This has nothing to do with the ladies.  This how to do with the guys complaining about where someone is staying, how their apt looks, how their motel is cheap ETC.  If you are spending $50 and she was a great gal, but you didn't like her incall.  Well then here's an idea.  Tip her another 50-100 bucks and that way next time maybe she can go from the notel to the motel.

First off, most people working for wages in ordinary jobs would be happy to get $50 or $80 an hour, which would equate to $100k or $160k respectively. The median wage in this country is $42k/annum; so even if these ladies are only billing 4 hours a day, they are making more than the average secretary or paralegal. At $80/hr and working 4 hours a day, they are making more than 40% of civil engineers. That isn't chicken scratch. It's certainly a living wage.

Maybe some providers like to see one or two clients a day at $300 and others like to see two or three clients a day at $200. Some may see 6 clients a day at $80. It's their business how they run their business.

Basic economics 101 shows a line representing price intersected by a line representing demand. The only real unknown is elasticity of demand; but one can be reasonably certain to have fewer potential clients at $2000 than $200. But demand may not fall off proportionately. It may be that a provider might only get one client a year at $2000 but several a week at $200; so that pricing at $200 is more profitable. Like I said, each provider knows her own business and her own market.

But let me get to the crux of the matter, specifically the idea that a provider who charges less must therefore be delivering less.

There are providers on this site charging $1000/hr, $500/hr, $400/hr, $300/hr, $200/hr and even $175/hr.

Some of the providers charging $200/hr have absolutely fantastic reviews.

Following your logic, I should expect the reviews of providers charging $200/hr to be only half as good as providers charging $400/hr. And, I should expect a BJ from a $1000/hr provider to be 500% more pleasurable than one from a $200/hr provider.

Yet, reviews by those who receive the services do NOT reflect this sort of difference. Once you cross the $175 threshold, the differences are very individual and unrelated to price.

So -- are you about to tell me that a $200 provider with all 8s and 9s is only 2/3rds as good as a $300 provider with 6s and 7s?

So I disagree with your premise that price necessarily equates to performance. There IS an overall correlation between price and the combination of the provider showing her face in photos and being a model; but no correlation between price and performance.

and given your reviews, I'd consider $400 a fair price.

But not everyone who charges $400 is you -- know wum sayin'?

This IS not about the ladies.  This is about the men complaining about incalls when they are paying bottom of the barrel rates.  

If a lady was working 8 full hrs a day (like a most people with "normal" jobs do) then fine, maybe she could upgrade her incall location etc.  But lets be real here sweetness, we don't work 8hr days.  And some of us don't even work every day.  So that alone turns your calculations all the way left.  

And ONCE again about your comment about numbers and prices etc.  THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT THE LADIES.  Please re read what I originally posted then comment again.

-- Modified on 6/2/2009 8:32:00 PM

       Rational self interest demands that the lady deal with her client as a trader, giving value for value. If a lady provides performance in excess of the value received, she is not making an equal trade, unless you posit that she gains from the experience something more than money, which we can test (and eliminate) by seeing what happens if the money is not proffered.


    So your theory that there is “no correlation between price and performance,” if true, would reject rational self interest and ironically stop the very motor that drives this world.

to do with the ladies AT ALL.  Please before commenting, REREAD my original post.  This is to do with the guys complaining cause of how a ladies incall looks or where it is or what's lacking, when they are paying less than what I pay to put gas in my vehicle.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LADIES AND THEIR RATES!!!  Thank you again.

I don't think they should complain about the atmosphere if they are only paying $50 for an hour.

However, I think a lady can get a nice place at an affordable price, if she shops wisely.   I can get a very nice room on priceline for under $50.  No, not a 5 star suite but not a super 8 notel hotel either.  

And, if the lady can't afford the nicest house on the street that doesn't mean she can't keep it clean and tidy and furnished.  

Atmosphere doesn't ONLY have to do with it being the best or the biggest or the most expensive.

We want everything for cheap and then bitch about quality.  The sad fact is not that these guys choose to pay $50 but actually think that they would get a great incall for ambience for that amount.  Sometimes a $50 S--- or F--- could be great!  But you gotta know it's going to be in the backseat of a car, in a cheap hotel, or in the alley.  But hey if that's your thing then go for it.

The overwhelming probably is that some people are just stupid.  I don't like saying that but what else is it when I guy pays $50 for a ladies companionship then expects a 5 star hotel.  

Stupid is as stupid does.

"Walmartization" is particularly true in services.  Airlines are forced to compete on price alone and then we all complain about the level of service and comfort.  Let one airline raise their prices ten or 15% and give full leg room and a higher level of service and it would go broke.

This has to be one of my BIGGEST ISSUES.

I cannot agree with you more Tasha. I read those same reviews and those men trashed the ladies. Again I cannot understand how a man can live in the same city the provider is working out of, know it is a bad spot, go anyways, and expect to find THE RITZ in the middle of the projects?

I am not knocking the ladies......AT ALL. I was wondering why trash them when you KNEW you were headed to the PROJECTS. When you got off the freeway a good idea would have been to turn around, go home, and rub one out.

Why go to a complete stranger, in a bad spot, who is charging $50.00, and think you are going to see anything more than what you saw?


Allure`

Sorry, couldn't resist.  ROTFLMAO  

I can guarantee you though, that a lot of people will inexplicably still not get that your point was about the hobbyist's skewed expectations rather than what the particular provider was charging.  Reading may be fundamental, but understanding is not.  People see what they look for, not necessarily what is there.

DC.

at all or even the subject you raised.

if the reader can answer the question "Who is John Galt?"

Reviews are controlled by expectations. Expectations are set by personal biases, advertising, and price.

Marketers make zillions convincing credulous fools that there is such a thing as a free lunch when anyone with two neurons ought to know better.

So, if advertising led the guys to believe they could have a date with a supermodel in her Beverly Hills Mansion for $50; that is exactly what they expected.

Indeed, Tasha, do not be shocked that, among a population in which 70% can't tell you who the Vice President is, that there are people out there who will be indignant that they didn't get what they were expecting; even when what they were expecting defies all the laws of physics.

For $50 I expect to catch an STD, get caught in a drive-by shooting and be confronted with a lady with more chest hair than myself. And that's BEFORE I get to the lady's room. That's why I don't play in that pool. I'd consider mere survival to be a huge bonus.

For $400 I expect someone with the skill of a neurosurgeon in her field and to leave her company healthier than when I arrived.

SHOULD they have savaged these ladies? No. But it must be expected. Some folks believe in a free lunch. They are dumb to believe in it, but they do.

So the answer is these fellow were, in my opinion, foolish to engage the services to begin with; and even MORE foolish to savage the providers afterwards.

You see similar problems with reviews of other providers in a more traditional price range. Here's one that really bugs me.

Say a provider smokes -- it's right there in her profile in black and white. It isn't hidden or anything. Yet, sure enough, some guy will come along and savage her in a review because he got a faint whiff of it when they kissed and that turns him off. Well -- she didn't go out and recruit him, it was his choice, and his inability to read shouldn't be her problem. In that case, he should refrain from writing a review and displaying his silliness to the world. There's a provider nearby this happened to -- pretty much 8's and 9's; and then some guy comes by and gives her a "2" because she smokes. He should have restrained himself ...

LMAO.  They are seeing every other word.  Lady......$50-80 bucks............incall......... and assuming I am talking about ladies.  It's amazing how we tend to skim post and then post a response ultimately the response has NOTHING to do with the topic lol.

And giving the explanation.   A great explanation at that.  I do agree that people perceive things a bit differently.  And as I said above 10 times, this is nothing to do with the ladies.

I also liked the Wal Mart analogy.  This is a society that wants everything cheap and then complains when the thing breaks a month later.  

I just found it completely appalling that this guy saw a lady at $50 and $60 and then decided to trash the lady.  That gal is doing what she has to to make money and probably provided at least a decent service for them, and then the guy felt compelled to shaft her in a review.  You get what you pay for.

Not saying that ladies that charge less or more than me are exempt from this, because I've seen it in those reviews as well.  But if a lady is charging 200+ I think there'd be NO excuse for having a trashed incall in the hood.  She should be able to more than afford at the least, a 3 star hotel.  

I was just taken back by the reviews lol and found it quit shocking that these guys made it sound like they needed to be at the local Ritz Carlton for $50 bucks an hr.  

Oh and on a side not, our VP is Jon Biden.

Just couldn't resist.  Sorry.
Anyone seen my meds??  

By the way, does she have any reviews on here?

This sounds more like when you go South of the Border and get a Quickie with a Girl like Boys Town in some of the South Texas/Mexican Towns.  In that case is Cheap Motel Room with Monitor at Door and you only have 30 Minutes to either get some or not.  Will go Naked and do a Deed but other than that depends.