In reading a post below with regards to websites, one gent struck a cord with me.  How do you gents shop?  Do you look at pictures, reviews and then book?  Do any read the contents of the site and if so, what?  Why is it or isn't it important?

Lauren

1.  Use TER search form for the city I'm visiting.  Put in the #'s / performance features I'm looking for.  Check the "no" on the smoking box.

2.  Get the short list, then click one by one.  Go to her pic first, if interested, read the bio.

3. Still interested, scan the reviews, click on the latest ones for details.  

4.  If her city has a local discussion group, plug her name in for the past 90 days and see what comes up.  

5.  If it all clicks, call ahead of time and make a date.

6.  Other ladies of interest:  the ones who post here and are interesting.  Check them out ahead of time, and make mental note to say hey if you're in their neighborhood.

i look for that sparkle in their eye that says "baby i will take you to heaven and back"...


and if there price is right, i'm on it!

1. Use the TER search that ranks ladies by performance, for the city I am going to visit.

2. Look through the first couple of pages, noting ladies with more than one or two reviews.

3. Read reviews for that group, looking for indications that the ladies enjoy their profession and their clients. I generally don’t get too hung up on whether specific acts are available or not.

4. Go to the websites of those I’m interested in to see what they have to say – I will generally read the complete web site. I don’t necessarily use the pictures to see what a provider looks like – more interesting is what the choice of pictures might say about how the lady thinks.

5. I have somewhat of a bias towards ladies who post on this board or on regional boards.

And even I occasionally looked....I HAVE NEVER DROOLED!

Rick and Enjoy and I do very similar things.  Some very slight differences:

1.  I am always looking first at ladies I've "met" on the discussion boards and recently in TER Chat.  I love having some "mental" image of their personality going in to the process, and I have "met" some wonderful ladies on these boards.

2.  I do my TER search, in performance order, for those services I desire.

3.  I read their reviews, looking for reviewers who have also seen ladies I have reviewed, for comparison.  Those with great reviews that have been reviewed by hobbyists familiar to me comprise my "A list.  I then chose those from the search not included above that interest me, primarily from the descriptive portion of the reviews.

4.  I look at their respective web sites.  I read the entire site before I look at the photo page.  Then I look at the photos.  I look for tasteful, yet sexy pix.  Porn-type pix don't impress me.  Tastefuly dressed, busines attire, lingerie, swimsuit, tasteful topless are tops.

5.  I usually make my "dates" 10 days to 2 weeks prior to my visit to that city.

6.  When I go to that city, I usually bring with me printouts of the TER profile of a few ladies who didn't make the cut, as a "Plan B" in the event of a cancellation by one of the ladies I booked.

Eros and CV ad malls.

I read the service profile and various high and low rated reviews of that lady.  A quick check on the review history of the reviewer.

I don't pay too much attention on the content of a lady's personal site except the photo, donation and contact page.  A short bio or FAQ would be nice.  In general, I like to see that a site well organized with tasteful scheme.

is a provider's personal philosophy and ruminations on themselves, their lifestyle and all things beyond ("you know ... life, universe, everything!")

i could dig up examples of the style of pontification i'm talking about that are so ludicrous they could have a suicidally depressed person laughing and in stitches in 2 seconds flat. i guess i've already made this point in an earlier thread, but i think it's something that bears repeating.  just when i think i finally understand women and providers (in particular) i come across another one and say to myself (shaking my head) ... "what could she be thinking?"

IMHO, a real professional provider (the type that would have me transfixed) is one that provides the LEAST textual descriptions of herself (body or mind) and the MOST visual ones instead. everything else i skip over and the more i have to skip over the less interested i become.

some men (like myself) don't view hobbying as a dating service!

[getting off soapbox]

For the discriminating palate ----

The most common is to search the reviews of the next city I'll be visiting and enter the specific criteria I am most interested in and then look at the websites.  Then if I'm having difficulties I'll ask some local hobbyists (or post on their board) about certain providers etc... For instance, I am looking forward to a trip to Chicago. I searched for the two age groups I desire, and wanted girls rated 8s and up in looks and tried some various sorts (like brunette because gorgeous brunettes seem to be very hard to find in some cities!!)  Then I looked at their websites to see if I could find a reason to concur with the other reviewers assessments.  That is also difficult because I think some guys overinflate appearance based on their experiences.  So once I had a short list of gorgeous girls that also had high performance ratings, and offered the things I'm hoping for then I followed up by posting on the local TER board to see if there was anyone who could help.  several TER brothers responded on the board and privately (not one response at tbd by the way-nice hunh?).  That helped me narrow my list down significantly.  So now I have developed a good short list for Chicago I think.

The second way is completely backwards.  I may see a post on a board or in chat that intrigues me because its funny or intelligent or somehow outshines the others..  I'll check their website and if the photos are pretty I'll start searching for reviews and then perhaps add that provider to my favorites list in case I'm going to travel near her area someday.

These 2 ways of developing a favorites list are predicated on two things - REVIEWS and believable photos.  There should be several reviews - not just one or two. I look to see who else that guy reviewed, if we have similar tastes I may email him. What I'm hoping to find is someone who has seen a girl that I have seen then I can calculate his ratings better.  Additionally we'll back channel to see who knows who and find some commonalities.  For instance, though I haven't reviewed them all I have met several girls in Vegas and by some strange coincidence SAW many of them in various bars so I know what they ACTUALLY look like.  I have met some hobbyists who also go to Vegas and they know some of these girls too and we can use them as references in discussion.  (Is she as hot as that girl? Does she do this like so and so? etc... etc...)  Those gentlemen are like my patron saints.  Everytime they have tried to steer me away they were right and I learned the hard way. Everytime they said go for it and I did, I was a very happy boy.

Now the photos on the website is a very difficult subject.  Photos can be deceiving for so many reasons. Some girls are not photogenic. So there's a conflict there as to what should you believe. I ALWAYS assume now that girls are larger and older than the photos on the site.  Its almost guaranteed. Becuase rarely are the photos just candids. Hell if I was having photos done I'd be looking my very best too! I might starve for a week to lose a little weight too.  But are the photos Playboy edited or are they just from a good shoot. That's a gut feeling usually but if you've looked at as much porn as most guys you'll get a sense of what is edited.  Black and white photos are out - they are way to forgiving!  Faces are VERY important to me. So I need a good face shot and blurred faces better be accompanied by 6 pages of 9s and 10s on appearance.

So as you can see this takes a buttload of time. If I spent this much time on research in college I would have graduated cum laude!

BTW yes, I read the site to see if there is anything that directly contradicts the reviews and to see if there's any clues as to the services to expect.  If the main profile page on TER says Greek is available but out of 10 reviews NO ONE mentions it except some guy who mentions a wandering pinky finger and your site says French only, then I know some guy entered something incorrectly. I'll read the bio too because its all part of the picture. Let's see how believable the girl is. Let's see if there is some way we'll be compatible.  But keep in mind, before I'll ever schedule I might consider someone several times. So its not important on my first "sort" to figure out if I'll be able to have a 4 hour conversation with the girl.  I might not want to talk at all!

Before I started in the biz as a provider, I spent many hours skimming through escort sites pretending I was a prospective client and seeing what caught my attention and what was a turn-off.

If there was a long page of text in an introduction or bio, I usually skipped it because it looked boring and time-consuming. I always looked at the pictures right away. If the girl looked attractive, I did linger and look at more of her site--if she wasn't cute, bingo, off to the next site.

Some of the bios and text were pretentious, idiotic, or full of miss-spellings. Umm, do clients really care what astrological signs you get along best with? And all these vague mentions of a "successful modeling or porn career" without any evidence to back it up? Anybody could claim that.

Also, do clients really need a page with hygiene tips? I think that's insulting, implying some clients are trailer trash. Any man going on a date, provider or civilian, knows he should take a shower and brush his teeth.

Or, how about the wish list pages--those just make the escort seem selfish and materialistic, as if she looks at clients only as walking ATM machines.    

Just my $0.02.  

The approaches above all are helpful, with some new hints.
A provider's attitude, performance, and looks are important.
If the pics make me drool, and make little one-eyed Bonobo pop up and look, then it's a deal.
Reviews from TER are usually very useful, esp for details.
Back channel recommendations often lead to some great new finds.
Unusual provocative statements get my attention if subtle and not crude, such as Angel fka Melina who says she loves to make men howl and jump to the ceiling when they cum. Women who love marathon sex are a real turn on, like Vlad'ka below who is very real and natural, a 3-popper and an eye popper.
When I had to choose between Vlad'ka, Iveta, and Lenka I almost died, but Bonobo went for the lucious natural boobs and her enlightened views on world peace and oral sex without.
Long legs and a cute small bottom get me too.

By the way, Bonobo blew the kids' college fund with a weekend of 20 wixens at Club K5, after which he croaked from dehydration with a grin. He left his inheritance to the Fund for the Orally Needy. There is a small memorial to him in a newly renamed square in Prague:
Bonobo Square - the Tomb of the First Hobbyist. RIP.
Bonobo's twin brother, however, survived because of a Mountain Dew rehydration drip. He is roaming Bupapest as we speak, ravishing and licking ultravixens' breasts.



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Las Vegas girls often think they piss platinum and charge you accordingly, even with mediocre performance and looks.
This young woman could not command US$100 a night in Budapest or Prague. She is probably writing an Autobiography anyhow. lol
Her web page helped remind me that LV is an empty town with lots of shallowness, built on bilking fools.
In the 70's and 80's though I had some great times with Vegas vixens in the sack, coeds making money for school.

I see that most of us that have posted thus far have pretty much the same routine.

Here's mine, and a few things that get the escort off of my list very quickly.

I travel frequently so I keep an eye on most of the local boards.

I do a search of the city, normally I just put
average rating = 7-10 and
pics real = yes

i go down the results list 1 at a time, click on website, go to gallery, contact, then rates, very rarely will I read anything else.

If I'm interested I look at the reviews, if there are many, I look for known reviewers, scan what they had to say, look at the highest and lowest reviews, check the reviewers history that I don't know. Send you a letter of introduction

Quickest way off of my potential friend list.....

Ignore my email, act like you are doing me a favor (I don't act that way towards you).

Ways to never get on my list...........

Ask for a deposit, ask where I work and/or home address/phone numbers (I can supply many references of well known women), post pics that aren't you.


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I had the same opinion you did in thinking that it was vulgar.  But after a slew of Godiva Chocolates that I couldn't possibly afford to eat lest I lose the little bit of figure that I do have, I did make a statement requesting no chocolates.  

I was then asked repeatedly to give a gent some ideas and many suggestions were made to put them on the site.  And so I did and those gents that do like to bring a little something extra, thank me for having suggestions on my site.  

It is not a requirement.  Nor am I asking for one. I simply cater to the requests of gents which is one of the reasons that I asked this question.  I am redoing my site and in including everything that gents have suggested that I place there I think it is getting wordy myself, which I fear may be a drawback.

In none of it am I describing my compstibility with the astrological signs, which I feel is a little over the top myself, but if the gents read the sites text, he would discern what is fluff and what is not and it may influence whether or not he may want to see her.  I am trying to get a handle on that through these questions.

Lauren

if the quickest way to get a lady off your list is if she acts like your doing her a favor, wouldn't that come through in the text of her site?  Wouldn't reading that give you a little better insight of her personality in discerning how she will act during your meeting?  Have you ever ended up with a lady in which you felt her attitude was poor?

Just curious.

i concede that while most often text/wish-lists are gratuitous, they can serve a useful function if done with "class" ... but therein lies the stickler: one person's ideal notion of "class" is another one's nightmare vision of "crass"

some judicious text can (properly) re-orient prospective clients for a gal who's too busy to go through an endless lineup of riff-raff knocking on her website entrance. and wish-lists can (in fact) be given a make-over with just a modicum of "good-sense"

for example, i came across a pornstar provider who indirectly (burried deep in her NOT-in-your-face "diary" page) suggested that she just LOVES (and collects) kitchen magnets! (you heard me, kitchen magnets now, THIS i would go miles out of my way to get her (exotic ones from my own collection even!  and to me it speaks volumes about her and her personality as compared to a pretentious provider who requests Chanel No. 5 (or Prada bags, i kid you not!)


anyway, i'm getting long-winded as usual, here's my informal poll question: wouldn't you girls rather just get tips/$$ as opposed to "gifts" ... setting aside the "so-thoughtful-of-him-to-bring-me-X" factor, wouldn't you just rather have cold hard cash to buy yourself exactly what you want? and wouldn't this obviate the potentially offending wish-lists?

No, not necessarily. I have found more than a handful of women that have someone else write the text and do all the updates (if any are ever done). IMO the site should be used as a tool to draw the customer in, quick loading, easy to navigate, easy & quick to read (big fonts, remember who your audience is LOL), just a mechanism to grab the attention of the type of client you desire. Of course there are people that like to read all about you, what you like, your wants and desires, I prefer to save that for when we meet.


Usually, after an email or 2 and a phone call or 2, personalities come forth. I am a very straightforward person, and try to be as gentlemanly as possible. I do my homework, and I never contact a woman without the intent to see her as soon as our schedules permit. Once we meet, if we are comfortable with each other, my life becomes an open book.

Here's a question for you, Have you ever had a conversation with someone, email or telephone, that just rubbed you the wrong way? (perhaps I am rubbing you the wrong way right now)
This has happened to me once or twice, and I respectfully declined the meeting. On one occasion, we discussed it and found we actually had a lot in common, we are quite good friends now.

As far as how someone acts on first meeting, I believe that depends on the reception they get from the other person. I always have a smile & a warm hello when first meeting someone and I am willing to accept a hug, kiss, handshake, whatever the situation calls for.

So, all in all I am a firm believer in do unto others....., treat them as you want to be treated, do your homework and everything should turn into a lovely time. The only time I was a bit offended was when a lovely woman gave me 1 rate on the phone & another upon getting into my room, on this particular encounter I didn't do my homework, had I read her reviews, I would have seen that this was her failing, other than that she was a wonderful woman & quite adept.

I got a little long winded here, did I answer your question?

Yes, give me cash instead of gifts so I can buy my own Prada bags

Honestly, for me, a little token gift of chocolate, flowers or lingerie is always appreciated....but the best gift is a very nice tip (after a good performance of course), so that I can continue to buy my own Prada bags and Manolo Blahnik stiletto sandals.  

Never met this girl but have been to Vegas. Her prices seem no more inflated than the others. Didn't see anything on her site that offended me.  She doesn't say much about services but hopefully there are some reviews somewhere.  What am I missing?

and no, you did not rub me the wrong way.  If in doubt, ask, is my philosophy.

To your question:  I call it the click and sometimes you just don't.  And it is not to say that it is him or it is me.  I have had occassion in which it just didn't click.  It is usually mutual and parted on a fine note.  

Thanks for your viewpoints.

Lauren