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Mr. Self Destruct 4234 reads
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Hey ladies.

Wow, I'm down here in Phoenix, and have just started out not to long ago as an Indy in the states. I've always been Indy back home from Calgary.

What I'm finding, is that it's extremely hard to tap into the industry out here why is that? I have listing on three paid advertisements, as well as my own site. Advertised in the local paper and a 1/8 of the page in the Yellow Pages for escort. Why is it so hard for someone new to the country. I have reviews to, I just can't understand it. Is it becuase I'm new. I'm stumpted girls, any advice would be nice

Christina xox

but I play one on TV - sorry old commercial joke.

Anyway, though I know this is all for amusement purposes and the reviews are all just fantasies. If any of this was real one thing I noticed on your site that might scare potential fantasy minded hobbyists away is the conspiracy theory link.The last thing I would ever have on a website is a really long detailed discussion of OFC!

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megapig3078 reads

It would take an In Depth Study of you and your business techniques [heh heh heh] to be certain of anything, but I can offer a few off hand observations.

1)  I agree with the conspiracy theory comment above.  Your web site isn't the place for that.

2)  Your web site is DEFINATELY not the place to have a wish list, Christina.    A girl of your calibre has the capacity to earn many times the yearly salary of most of your clients, so having a "wish list" of gifts that people could buy you and a "make a donation" box on your site is ... well ... cheap.  
If you want to have a separate paid membership site for on-line porn, gift giving wussie-boys, fine - more power to you.  But not on your provider site.

3) Lastly ... and this one is by no means within your control, you have to look around you ... where you are.    You're in PHOENIX - [Our Motto:  We have only two seasons  "GeeZUS it's hot" and "GeeZUS it's cold" ].   Phoenix is an ancient Hop`e Indian word that means "Too stupid to move where it's not desert" so you may just find that the people don't have much spendable cash left over after paying for heat and cooling.

Ci Ci5579 reads

Hi Megapig,

What's wrong with having a wish list on your website? I've had several gentlemen say they appreciate knowing what I like ahead of time, although I cerntainly do not expect anyone to get me a gift, but it helps men out if they're thinking of purchasing some wine or beer or whatever before the date. I do agree, however, with the Conspiracy Theory. It was interesting to read, but whoa! It was long and not the place for it. Good luck to you Christina. I wish you the best comrade.

Hugs,
Ciara

megapig3626 reads

Clara .... my point was that a classy broad doesn't have a wish list on her web site.   If a gentlemen caller [that was no gentleman, that was Pig!] wishes to buy her something and ASKS what she would like then she's free to tell him.

But for a provider to be presumtuous enough to put a Wish List on her site is to be arrogant enough to THINK that enough men would wish to buy her something that she'll make it easy on them.   And MAKE A DONATION?   Isn't that a lot like telling a hobbyist "Look, I don't have time to SEE you, but send the money anyway?"

No No No No NO!!!   Wish lists and Donation boxes go on their OWN web site where you cater to web wussies  NOT on a professional escort site.

Period.

Pig Has Spoken and you have heard The Word.

Ci Ci2612 reads

Well, Megapig, I guess everyone has their opinion and I can certainly understand what you're saying, but I have spent many hours with men and most of them said they liked the idea of a "Wish List", even though I was apprehensive at first to place it on my website. I guess you can't please everyone (although I'd like to -- wink). Anyway, it was actually meant to be a helpful list to those who feel the need to give during the holidays, etc, but certainly not meant for making a client feel bad about not giving extra. I rarely get tipped for my time, and I never ask for a tip. Some providers do this, but I'm considerably humble (if you ever met me you'd understand). However, by using the words "classy broad" tells me something right there -- the term "broad" is very offensive to most women and not classy. Sorry, but I have spoken!

Hugs,
Ciara

Mr. Self Destruct3077 reads

However, for us gentlemen (you know...the "wuss" types), we like the idea of wish list, for many reasons...tips, holidays, icebreaker, and probably the most common one, the old "I scratch our back, you scratch mine".  

You just keep on doing what you're doing, sister. I am sure your clients like you just the way you are.

Ci Ci2830 reads

Thanks, Mr. Self-destruct. You're a sweetie!

Hugs,
Ciara

Cynicalman 3.02976 reads


just because you're fractionally more cynical than me ... but i've HAD it with you ... plus i happen to think she's cute, so there!

pistols at dawn? ... Pig can referee and represent

Cynicalman 3.13368 reads

If you shot my . off, I'll become Cynicalman 31.  That will put me at 10 times more cynical than you.  
By the way, I think she is cute too, that why I suggested her to travel.  Maybe she could see Cynicalman 3.1  at 10am, then Cynicalman 3.0 at 11am.  I'll try to leave at 10:55, so you won't have to shooting at me again.  Maybe after you seeing her, you won't be so.....

Also not an escort but here is my two cents. I read your reviews on this site and sorry, but they are far from good. If the escort service you were working for is the root cause of this then I would suggest you change your name and start earning stronger reviews and link to them prominently on your website. Also I agree with scampr about the conspiracy theory link. Its fine to have an opinion about controversial topics, but you are trying to make a living here and that link is counter productive at best.

I would also suggest reading up on some of the other escorts who have rave reviews to see what it is they are doing to earn them.
Then decide if you want to include those services yourself.

Last and probably least important, a couple of the reviews stated that you put on weight since your pictures. It sucks, but thats bad for your business. Look at the competition. In a large city like pheonix there are lots of unbelieveably beautiful escorts pulling down the high end clients. You can be one of them, but
those extra pounds make it more difficult.

I hope this helps

Actually her reviews are quite good..7 8 several 9. And I see no mention of adding weight.

I agree with the masses..lose the conspiracy theory!!!! Also, linking with other indy's is a great idea as it eases questions about legitimacy. Finally, get on the next plane and head to Chicago.;) I wish you the best. Isnt Pheonix the viagra capitol of the World????

Hey Beautiful,

Come to LA, and call me! Please!

Tygrlily3855 reads

Try bonding with a few Indy's.  You don't have one single Indy's banner on your links page while you have tons of agencies. You'll be surprised how many people will find your site just from browsing other escort sites and more surprised when you start receiving travel requests, etc.  I would love to link with you!

xoxo
Tygrlily

Hi Christina,  I'm not from the area, so I have no ax to grind.  Further, you aren't the type of lady I'm normally attracted to (too young), so you don't need to change anything to suit me.  I'm writing what I'm writing because I'm pretty good at marketing.  In any case, free advice is cheap, so do with this what you will.

I'm not personally bothered by your "conspiracy theory" area.  It indicates you are intellegent and thoughtful and have opinions about things.  More power to you.  Others might be - in short encounters with others, it can sometimes be very useful to keep quiet, listen, and smile (men and woman).  People who aren't very insightful will think of you as intellegent and sophisticated  -  your silence and smiles allows them to think you agree with them.  I know this sounds like I'm telling you to "act like a woman", but I'm not.  I'm telling you to act like a person dealing with a customer (who is ALWAYS RIGHT unless you can't stand him).  That is just the way it works.  You have other problems though.

You cannot link to your reviews from your website.  TER references to you in Canada show up empty.  TER references to you in Phoenix show up 3 different references to "Christina".  Two are in your 602 exchange.  The phone #s are different than the one referenced on your website.  The $s listed on the two websites are all over the place.  One of your reviews suggest a guy who paid $380 for 20mins with no sex and you telling him that "time is money".  The reviews from the other website are indifferent on the whole.  

Time is certainly money.  From your customer's point of view, money is pleasure.  You are apparently not delivering value for service compared to your competition in Phoenix.  List comparable Phoenix providers by performance and see where you place.  Use only independents and exclude traveling ladies with few reviews.    You are in the hospitality business and you haven't learned how to do it well yet.

Spend some time with the clients you would like to see and find out what attracts them from a website and why they return after an encounter.  Remember the golden rule - They have the gold and they make the rules.  Decide if you want to play in their sandbox.  If you decide you want to play, play well -- it's your livelihood.

Regards...Harry  










Tatoogirl743996 reads

be patient it will happen. Just look for different places to advertise on the interest, it will happen, just wait and see.

When I first started, I had 1 client per month~ (I can't tell ya how many I have a week, but its more that 1.)

Good Luck,

Shaye

You are a pretty tall escort at 5'8''. You might want to move to a better location like the upper midwest (twin cities to Chicago) ,Northern California, NorthWest, DC, NYC, Miami, and/or Detroit. Yes believe it or not people look at your shoe size and say "wow". I have heard women say men with big feet have big tools and vis-versa. Some hobbists like the provider to be alot shorter than themselves for a lot of reasons. Their tool might be to short, they might want to dominate. I am not sure but are most in the people in the southwest shorter ? You will find areas with the taller men don't like the shorter providers. It is like a chicken experience where the provider's legs are too short.

Also alot of high profile companies have been exporting alot of high tech work away from Phoenix overseas. I know Intel and Motorola have had some major hits. There are alot of religous people out there and the market might not be great to support your rate.

You might want to try touring.

Also that conspiracy theory on your website is a no-no. Folks from the other site will stay away from you.

The locations that I listed above are major money centers.

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