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You weren't using any hypotheticals...you were telling me that YOU think it's foolish to pay for arena seats when the event is televised.

Many agree with you.  Others see it differently.

Same with pussy...you seem to want to deflect the topic over and over.  And want to make it a point that the dollars are the issue.  I haven't said that..nor will I.  What my position is and has been is that paying for anyone (hooker notwithstanding) to be a friend is pathetic.

Try and wrap your head around this.  It's really not all that difficult.
Posted By: SoftlySarah
I see. You really are a literal thinker. That makes perfect sense. I'll stop using hypotheticals to illustrate points. ;)  
   
 Try this one: You like sports. You pay a lot for certain seats. Others like the company of women. They pay a lot for certain experiences. Better?

If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".

Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?

Your thoughts if any?

GaGambler4456 reads

How do you expect to win this months SPOTM making "non stupid" posts like that. Good thing my money wasn't on you this month anyhow, posts like this will take you completely out of the running.

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Posted By: GaGambler
How do you expect to win this months SPOTM making "non stupid" posts like that. Good thing my money wasn't on you this month anyhow, posts like this will take you completely out of the running.

GaGambler3807 reads

There is only so much "niceness" that I am capable of, and I think I have already spent my quota for the month. lol

GaGambler4488 reads

usually I spend it on the first day, so seeing how this is already the second, I guess it's an improvement.

there are providers who charge 500 to 1000 per hr who have reg clients who to them $1000 hr is their norm you are talking about whats *norm* to you not everyone. One mans bargain can be out of another mans price range.
 

Posted By: GaGambler
How do you expect to win this months SPOTM making "non stupid" posts like that. Good thing my money wasn't on you this month anyhow, posts like this will take you completely out of the running.

Nicole, maybe what he meant was each individuals "norm"  i.e. their comfort zone with regard to spending.

I think it's a valid question though.  If someone splurges outside their norm, their expectation would be higher. A guy would need to reassure himself that it was money well spent, therefore his interpretation may be a little warped toward higher scores not for the sake of the review itself, but his internal review of the decision to splurge.

The answer is YES.. The more she charges, the higher is the bar..

So lets say I see a BP girl (hypothetical scenario), who charges $200 for suck and fuck..I might give her 8 for a decent performance. But if the girl charges $350, she needs to give a better performance to deserve the same 8.

Now, some mangina boys will be more lenient in scoring the higher end gals, for their own reasons...

But that's them...And this is me.

and follow the opposite.

Escalade says that the more we pay, the higher we rate for the same performance in order to justify (I guess in our minds, or perhaps to others.) the higher price.

You seem to be saying that you would score lower for the same performance.

Myself, I score without any regard to the price.

Udo4064 reads

On the contrary for me! With higher cost comes higher expectations. I will definitely be more critical of her performance.  

I have had great performers in Thailand for $25. I expected a lesser kind of experience with this cost. I once moved up to a more expensive provider charging $100 per hour. My expectations were higher. She did prove worthy of higher expense since she spent 15 minutes licking my anus which was more pleasurable than I thought it would be.

I am a cheap Charlie so don't let my costs bother you. I have a son to support through graduate school and I want to pay off my house early so that I can retire early. I can't afford to waste my money on overpriced pussy!

In short, higher cost, higher expectations!

Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".  
   
 Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?  
   
 Your thoughts if any?

Sure hope not...that wouldn't be nice.

And no sweat on getting that kid of yours through school...he's pimping out SEA hookers right and left.

I'm sure you knew that already  LOL

Posted By: Udo
On the contrary for me! With higher cost comes higher expectations. I will definitely be more critical of her performance.  
   
 I have had great performers in Thailand for $25. I expected a lesser kind of experience with this cost. I once moved up to a more expensive provider charging $100 per hour. My expectations were higher. She did prove worthy of higher expense since she spent 15 minutes licking my anus which was more pleasurable than I thought it would be.  
   
 I am a cheap Charlie so don't let my costs bother you. I have a son to support through graduate school and I want to pay off my house early so that I can retire early. I can't afford to waste my money on overpriced pussy!  
   
 In short, higher cost, higher expectations!  
   
Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".  
     
  Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?  
     
  Your thoughts if any?

Udo3951 reads

The Mrs. Udo Filipina wife of mine does not know about my continuation in the hobby. I hope to keep it that way. My son is studying for a PhD and has a nice steady girlfriend he plans to marry. However, he enjoys fucking the whores bareback.
 

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Sure hope not...that wouldn't be nice.  
   
 And no sweat on getting that kid of yours through school...he's pimping out SEA hookers right and left.  
   
 I'm sure you knew that already  LOL  
   
Posted By: Udo
On the contrary for me! With higher cost comes higher expectations. I will definitely be more critical of her performance.    
     
  I have had great performers in Thailand for $25. I expected a lesser kind of experience with this cost. I once moved up to a more expensive provider charging $100 per hour. My expectations were higher. She did prove worthy of higher expense since she spent 15 minutes licking my anus which was more pleasurable than I thought it would be.  
     
  I am a cheap Charlie so don't let my costs bother you. I have a son to support through graduate school and I want to pay off my house early so that I can retire early. I can't afford to waste my money on overpriced pussy!  
     
  In short, higher cost, higher expectations!  
     
Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".    
       
   Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?    
       
   Your thoughts if any?

Remember all your threads bashing those cheating married whoremongers?

Guess that was just you expressing your frustrations!!

Is the kids GF a hooker too?  Is she making enough to keep her future pimp husband happy?

PhD=Piled High and Deeper

Thanks for playing  :D

Posted By: Udo
The Mrs. Udo Filipina wife of mine does not know about my continuation in the hobby. I hope to keep it that way. My son is studying for a PhD and has a nice steady girlfriend he plans to marry. However, he enjoys fucking the whores bareback.  
   
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Sure hope not...that wouldn't be nice.  
     
  And no sweat on getting that kid of yours through school...he's pimping out SEA hookers right and left.  
     
  I'm sure you knew that already  LOL  
     
Posted By: Udo
On the contrary for me! With higher cost comes higher expectations. I will definitely be more critical of her performance.    
       
   I have had great performers in Thailand for $25. I expected a lesser kind of experience with this cost. I once moved up to a more expensive provider charging $100 per hour. My expectations were higher. She did prove worthy of higher expense since she spent 15 minutes licking my anus which was more pleasurable than I thought it would be.    
       
   I am a cheap Charlie so don't let my costs bother you. I have a son to support through graduate school and I want to pay off my house early so that I can retire early. I can't afford to waste my money on overpriced pussy!    
       
   In short, higher cost, higher expectations!    
       
   
Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".    
         
    Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?    
         
    Your thoughts if any?

Kind of a strange name for a pimp...usually Huggy Bear or some such shit...right?

Also...I think it is affect...not effect.

Is Conan around?

Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".  
   
 Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?  
   
 Your thoughts if any?

AnotherPerspective3701 reads

The sun affects my  mood.    

The foods  I eat affect my health.
   
Precipitation  affects my tomato crop .  

  Fools are often surprisingly effective with  their methods .  

 Next time  we will work  on more  confused words ,  your and you're ,  there and their ,  guilty and not guilty  .

   I would base  her ratings  on  looks and performance , not on her donation .  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Kind of a strange name for a pimp...usually Huggy Bear or some such shit...right?  
   
 Also...I think it is affect...not effect.  
   
 Is Conan around?  
   
Posted By: escalade1964
If a provider charges more than "The Norm" and YES...There is a "Norm".  
     
  Do you feel more obligated to give her higher ratings so you do not feel guilty for overpaying?  
     
  Your thoughts if any?

Good nonprofits effect change, the new rates go into effect tomorrow, she displays a certain affect during her sessions.  

And discrete vs discreet. My favorite. ;)

Discrete / discreet   Damn that one still gets me.

He is telling Cliff that the in call rate is 400/hr

The more I pay for something, the more I expect it to knock my socks off.  

If a $20 bottle of wine is just meh, oh well, it was $20.  But if a $200 bottle is just meh.... I'm ticked (and letting everyone else know that it's 'just meh' as well)!  

If I'm driving a Yugo, I can't exactly complain that it only goes up mountain passes at 40mph but if I'm driving an Aston Martin Vanquish, you better believe I'd have issues if it topped out at 40mph in the mountains!  

If I shop at Forever21 and pay $40 for a pleather jacket, do I have much room to bitch that it looks only a hair better than a Glad trash bag and falls apart after 2 months of wear?  No!  But if a 10k Chanel jacket falls apart and looks like a trash bag.... someone's getting an irate phone call and it's getting replaced/refunded!

I seriously have to wonder - has anyone (caveat: must possess something of a working brain and spine) ever actually admitted to inflating a grade for the reason you specify (and others seem to believe happens a lot)?

And then, if the assumption is that guys lie/inflate because they don't want to be perceived as __________(dumb? weak? insert appropriate denigration) for having paid over "the norm".... what does it mean when they repeat?

Does the reverse hold "true" also?  Guys scoring lower than they otherwise would when they get a special/discount/SW car date pricing?  Why? They don't want to be perceived as actually *liking* someone in the shallow end (despite however likable that person may, in truth, be)?

Neither of those scenarios makes much sense to me...

GaGambler4097 reads

people lining up to pay exorbitant prices and suffer through horrible service at shops on Rodeo Drive. Grown men actually feeling the need to impress a waiter with their choice of wines, the list goes on and on.

Many guys just aren't secure enough to admit that maybe the lady wasn't "all that" after spending a boat load of money on her when all of his peers claim to have had a great time. They get it in their head, especially after listening to all the white knights, that if they didn't have a great time, it must be a shortfall on their end, not hers. We are definitely guilty of the herd mentality here Even here in anonymous fuckboard land, guys are still pussy whipped, in spite of the fact that they are supposed to be paying for NSA sex on "their" terms. Go figure

Has anyone ever publicly admitted to being that insecure person?  If the answer is no (or yes, but so rarely it can't exactly constitute an actual phenomena), how do you know this concept simply isn't a projection of a different type of insecure person?  One who struggles accepting that others value something they see as ridiculous and must project their imagined value system on to them...

But since they didn't post their issues on the GD board you don't know about it.

Unless of course you're getting some intel from the mangina boys from other boards.

That wouldn't shock me in the least.  Most know that other boards leak like sieves.

Hence the really good intel comes from emails...just thought you might want to know.

Posted By: EdrienneCole
Has anyone ever publicly admitted to being that insecure person?  If the answer is no (or yes, but so rarely it can't exactly constitute an actual phenomena), how do you know this concept simply isn't a projection of a different type of insecure person?  One who struggles accepting that others value something they see as ridiculous and must project their imagined value system on to them...

The bottle of wine is something that I have never understood...to me it all tastes the same.  And in taste tests it has invariably been proven that the average john...err joe can't tell much difference.  So yea...why pay more?

Cars...same holds true for that comparison as well.  They all get me to where I'm going.

Clothes...well since I wouldn't ever even think of dropping 10k for anything...I guess maybe someone might know the differences.  I sure as hell don't.

So to honestly babble that the mangina boys here wouldn't give YOU 10's after seeing the parade of 10's is simply you being obtuse.  Don't fear my dear...enough of my pals say you're above the norm (not the pimp Norm however).  But most have no interest in paying that coin for something that most others charge a fraction of that for.  Hence the reviews attached to your handle are no different to most than the shmucks who can't tell the $ 20 v $ 200 bottle of wine.

Ah..marketing is so fucking important  :D

Posted By: EdrienneCole
The more I pay for something, the more I expect it to knock my socks off.    
   
 If a $20 bottle of wine is just meh, oh well, it was $20.  But if a $200 bottle is just meh.... I'm ticked (and letting everyone else know that it's 'just meh' as well)!  
   
 If I'm driving a Yugo, I can't exactly complain that it only goes up mountain passes at 40mph but if I'm driving an Aston Martin Vanquish, you better believe I'd have issues if it topped out at 40mph in the mountains!    
   
 If I shop at Forever21 and pay $40 for a pleather jacket, do I have much room to bitch that it looks only a hair better than a Glad trash bag and falls apart after 2 months of wear?  No!  But if a 10k Chanel jacket falls apart and looks like a trash bag.... someone's getting an irate phone call and it's getting replaced/refunded!  
   
 I seriously have to wonder - has anyone (caveat: must possess something of a working brain and spine) ever actually admitted to inflating a grade for the reason you specify (and others seem to believe happens a lot)?  
   
 And then, if the assumption is that guys lie/inflate because they don't want to be perceived as __________(dumb? weak? insert appropriate denigration) for having paid over "the norm".... what does it mean when they repeat?  
   
 Does the reverse hold "true" also?  Guys scoring lower than they otherwise would when they get a special/discount/SW car date pricing?  Why? They don't want to be perceived as actually *liking* someone in the shallow end (despite however likable that person may, in truth, be)?  
   
 Neither of those scenarios makes much sense to me...

My Escalade is not much different than the Ford Explorer I had earlier in my life.

Just Sayin

Just because $10,000 is a lot of money to you doesn't mean it's even couch change to others. Your constant petty jealousy/bitterness/anger is pitiful.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
The bottle of wine is something that I have never understood...to me it all tastes the same.  And in taste tests it has invariably been proven that the average john...err joe can't tell much difference.  So yea...why pay more?  
   
 Cars...same holds true for that comparison as well.  They all get me to where I'm going.  
   
 Clothes...well since I wouldn't ever even think of dropping 10k for anything...I guess maybe someone might know the differences.  I sure as hell don't.  
   
 So to honestly babble that the mangina boys here wouldn't give YOU 10's after seeing the parade of 10's is simply you being obtuse.  Don't fear my dear...enough of my pals say you're above the norm (not the pimp Norm however).  But most have no interest in paying that coin for something that most others charge a fraction of that for.  Hence the reviews attached to your handle are no different to most than the shmucks who can't tell the $ 20 v $ 200 bottle of wine.  
   
 Ah..marketing is so fucking important  :D  
   
Posted By: EdrienneCole
The more I pay for something, the more I expect it to knock my socks off.    
     
  If a $20 bottle of wine is just meh, oh well, it was $20.  But if a $200 bottle is just meh.... I'm ticked (and letting everyone else know that it's 'just meh' as well)!    
     
  If I'm driving a Yugo, I can't exactly complain that it only goes up mountain passes at 40mph but if I'm driving an Aston Martin Vanquish, you better believe I'd have issues if it topped out at 40mph in the mountains!    
     
  If I shop at Forever21 and pay $40 for a pleather jacket, do I have much room to bitch that it looks only a hair better than a Glad trash bag and falls apart after 2 months of wear?  No!  But if a 10k Chanel jacket falls apart and looks like a trash bag.... someone's getting an irate phone call and it's getting replaced/refunded!  
     
  I seriously have to wonder - has anyone (caveat: must possess something of a working brain and spine) ever actually admitted to inflating a grade for the reason you specify (and others seem to believe happens a lot)?  
     
  And then, if the assumption is that guys lie/inflate because they don't want to be perceived as __________(dumb? weak? insert appropriate denigration) for having paid over "the norm".... what does it mean when they repeat?  
     
  Does the reverse hold "true" also?  Guys scoring lower than they otherwise would when they get a special/discount/SW car date pricing?  Why? They don't want to be perceived as actually *liking* someone in the shallow end (despite however likable that person may, in truth, be)?  
     
  Neither of those scenarios makes much sense to me...

At least you and Escalade are now buttbuddies. Awesome.  

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
Just because $10,000 is a lot of money to you doesn't mean it's even couch change to others. Your constant petty jealousy/bitterness/anger is pitiful.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
The bottle of wine is something that I have never understood...to me it all tastes the same.  And in taste tests it has invariably been proven that the average john...err joe can't tell much difference.  So yea...why pay more?  
     
  Cars...same holds true for that comparison as well.  They all get me to where I'm going.  
     
  Clothes...well since I wouldn't ever even think of dropping 10k for anything...I guess maybe someone might know the differences.  I sure as hell don't.  
     
  So to honestly babble that the mangina boys here wouldn't give YOU 10's after seeing the parade of 10's is simply you being obtuse.  Don't fear my dear...enough of my pals say you're above the norm (not the pimp Norm however).  But most have no interest in paying that coin for something that most others charge a fraction of that for.  Hence the reviews attached to your handle are no different to most than the shmucks who can't tell the $ 20 v $ 200 bottle of wine.  
     
  Ah..marketing is so fucking important  :D  
     
Posted By: EdrienneCole
The more I pay for something, the more I expect it to knock my socks off.      
       
   If a $20 bottle of wine is just meh, oh well, it was $20.  But if a $200 bottle is just meh.... I'm ticked (and letting everyone else know that it's 'just meh' as well)!    
       
   If I'm driving a Yugo, I can't exactly complain that it only goes up mountain passes at 40mph but if I'm driving an Aston Martin Vanquish, you better believe I'd have issues if it topped out at 40mph in the mountains!      
       
   If I shop at Forever21 and pay $40 for a pleather jacket, do I have much room to bitch that it looks only a hair better than a Glad trash bag and falls apart after 2 months of wear?  No!  But if a 10k Chanel jacket falls apart and looks like a trash bag.... someone's getting an irate phone call and it's getting replaced/refunded!    
       
   I seriously have to wonder - has anyone (caveat: must possess something of a working brain and spine) ever actually admitted to inflating a grade for the reason you specify (and others seem to believe happens a lot)?    
       
   And then, if the assumption is that guys lie/inflate because they don't want to be perceived as __________(dumb? weak? insert appropriate denigration) for having paid over "the norm".... what does it mean when they repeat?    
       
   Does the reverse hold "true" also?  Guys scoring lower than they otherwise would when they get a special/discount/SW car date pricing?  Why? They don't want to be perceived as actually *liking* someone in the shallow end (despite however likable that person may, in truth, be)?    
       
   Neither of those scenarios makes much sense to me...

It's really sad to watch someone make an ass of themselves trying to impress a hooker.

News flash...Pay EC her rates and she'll still love you.  Stop paying her and she won't reply to your emails.

That's how the game is played.

Your thoughts.... If any

In your case I'll allow some babbling since you have to try and impress the hookers.

My thought is very simple. I love getting your goat. Way too easy.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
It's really sad to watch someone make an ass of themselves trying to impress a hooker.  
   
 News flash...Pay EC her rates and she'll still love you.  Stop paying her and she won't reply to your emails.  
   
 That's how the game is played.  
   
 Your thoughts.... If any  
   
 In your case I'll allow some babbling since you have to try and impress the hookers.

WOWZERS..i think we should get CPA and EC together..that would be one tryst for the ages or a annihilating configuration..

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
My thought is very simple. I love getting your goat. Way too easy.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
It's really sad to watch someone make an ass of themselves trying to impress a hooker.  
     
  News flash...Pay EC her rates and she'll still love you.  Stop paying her and she won't reply to your emails.  
     
  That's how the game is played.  
     
  Your thoughts.... If any  
     
  In your case I'll allow some babbling since you have to try and impress the hookers.

No wonder the hookers are giving you discounts.  Awfully simple mind there vdm.

And maybe spend more time looking for pussy that is hot....think outside the box (pun intended).

Or stick with the overpriced stuff that is mediocre...it's safer  LOL

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
My thought is very simple. I love getting your goat. Way too easy.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
It's really sad to watch someone make an ass of themselves trying to impress a hooker.  
     
  News flash...Pay EC her rates and she'll still love you.  Stop paying her and she won't reply to your emails.  
     
  That's how the game is played.  
     
  Your thoughts.... If any  
     
  In your case I'll allow some babbling since you have to try and impress the hookers.

Ya EC's pretty much that. That's why you've had a hard crush on her for like ever? Just cos you don't have the 'entry fee' doesn't warrant this nastiness. But its you so it makes sense.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
No wonder the hookers are giving you discounts.  Awfully simple mind there vdm.  
   
 And maybe spend more time looking for pussy that is hot....think outside the box (pun intended).  
   
 Or stick with the overpriced stuff that is mediocre...it's safer  LOL  
   
Posted By: vegasdaddyman
My thought is very simple. I love getting your goat. Way too easy.    
     
Posted By: ChgoCPA
It's really sad to watch someone make an ass of themselves trying to impress a hooker.    
       
   News flash...Pay EC her rates and she'll still love you.  Stop paying her and she won't reply to your emails.    
       
   That's how the game is played.    
       
   Your thoughts.... If any    
       
   In your case I'll allow some babbling since you have to try and impress the hookers.
-- Modified on 7/4/2013 4:04:45 PM

Except you know much better than that my friend.

Nope...I look for value.  And much better out there for half her price...sans the drama as well.

Give it a shot...open your eyes and mind up.  TER is far from the place to find the really hot hookers who are priced to move.

And no drama  :D

Seems like you overpaid for pussy.  Sorry for that.  Nobody put a gun to your head to do it...right?

As far as what I can afford...is irrelevant.  But the likelihood is that I could easily buy and sell you several times over.  You do have a seven digit net worth...right?

If not...we should chat and maybe I can educate you how to get there.  And overpaying for shit is not the way to get there.

BTW..it's pretty insulting in your latest review of the duo that you only paid 4k for 12 hours when EC is asking for multiples of that on her site.  Not to mention some of the hookers you've given 10's to are pretty average looking women.

I guess my standards are quite different than yours.  But you're the mangina boy most are referring to on this thread.

Thanks for confirming all of that.  The newbs need to know how the game is scammed

Thanks for checking my reviews as always. The $4k was AD's rate. I'd already covered EC's fee. Out of the cup holder in my car. Letting your jealousy, anger, financial issues run your life is pretty sad. Let's see. Who do I want returning my messages? CPA or EC? Lol. You're just a jealous, broke, bitter boy. I'll think of you next week. Make sure to enjoy the review! Love you!

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Seems like you overpaid for pussy.  Sorry for that.  Nobody put a gun to your head to do it...right?  
   
 As far as what I can afford...is irrelevant.  But the likelihood is that I could easily buy and sell you several times over.  You do have a seven digit net worth...right?  
   
 If not...we should chat and maybe I can educate you how to get there.  And overpaying for shit is not the way to get there.  
   
 BTW..it's pretty insulting in your latest review of the duo that you only paid 4k for 12 hours when EC is asking for multiples of that on her site.  Not to mention some of the hookers you've given 10's to are pretty average looking women.  
   
 I guess my standards are quite different than yours.  But you're the mangina boy most are referring to on this thread.  
   
 Thanks for confirming all of that.  The newbs need to know how the game is scammed.  
   
 

Yea...I guess ole EC is pounding on your inbox to fix that faux pas.

Hurry up...or she may not see you again  LOL

Nah...bring your bucks and she'll still see you.  That's what this is all about.  Just don't out her again or she'll tell her friends you can't be trusted!

And so thrilled that you'll be thinking of me.  But I doubt I'll spend any time thinking of you...sorry  :(

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
Thanks for checking my reviews as always. The $4k was AD's rate. I'd already covered EC's fee. Out of the cup holder in my car. Letting your jealousy, anger, financial issues run your life is pretty sad. Let's see. Who do I want returning my messages? CPA or EC? Lol. You're just a jealous, broke, bitter boy. I'll think of you next week. Make sure to enjoy the review! Love you!  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Seems like you overpaid for pussy.  Sorry for that.  Nobody put a gun to your head to do it...right?  
     
  As far as what I can afford...is irrelevant.  But the likelihood is that I could easily buy and sell you several times over.  You do have a seven digit net worth...right?  
     
  If not...we should chat and maybe I can educate you how to get there.  And overpaying for shit is not the way to get there.  
     
  BTW..it's pretty insulting in your latest review of the duo that you only paid 4k for 12 hours when EC is asking for multiples of that on her site.  Not to mention some of the hookers you've given 10's to are pretty average looking women.  
     
  I guess my standards are quite different than yours.  But you're the mangina boy most are referring to on this thread.  
     
  Thanks for confirming all of that.  The newbs need to know how the game is scammed.  
     
 

Posted By: ChgoCPA
And so thrilled that you'll be thinking of me.  But I doubt I'll spend any time thinking of you...sorry  :(
you're still here responding to him. I think you have a crush.

I try and keep my bromances off the boards...and now you spill the beans.

Sort of like what vdm did to EC via his review  :D

Posted By: SoftlySarah
Posted By: ChgoCPA
And so thrilled that you'll be thinking of me.  But I doubt I'll spend any time thinking of you...sorry  :(
   
 you're still here responding to him. I think you have a crush.

If a guy had his eyes closed and two providers were both in the room, would he know which one was 200 and which one was 1k based ONLY on sexual skill? I highly doubt it. Those who charge more than average do so because they can....that's it. I've seen just as many hot 18 year olds at the 200 mark, as I have seen over 30 providers at the higher end...the difference is in the packaging. The 18 year olds were much hotter and offered the very same services, so you tell me what makes one guy pay x to a provider and one only pay y to the next? Marketing.  

Ok, then you do have those who command higher rates for unsafe acts like Privates to Privates massage which to most is code for BBFS. If a condom was used for this, it would be called sex lol. It's still rubbing your private parts, juices flowing, against another's. Not judging, but I wonder if women who have this checked off really know what guys are thinking that service entails.  

If the only way a guy is going to be blown away with my performance is to lick his ass and offer the above, I guess I will just have to settle for the ratings and rates I have now because I am never doing that shit for every guy I see.  

If I am only seeing ONE guy as in a sugar daddy type thing, maybe so, but with EVERY date? Ha...not happening.

will never understand the value of what someone like EC has to offer.  

Nobody closes their eyes, ears, and brain during an engagement. That's the difference. It isn't merely sexual skill. This is what many TER people simply cannot comprehend. It has relatively little to do with marketing.  

Every single one of us indulges in something that others find frivolous.

Again with my favorite quote: "Those who danced were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."

Yep...but I've come to expect that from a simpleton.

Men of "means" expect a hell of a lot more than a "hole to fill".  But the way that most get to that station in life (as in means) is NOT paying for something that has little to NO value.

When I (or any monger here) has to pay a woman money to be "their friend" they are in a world of hurt.  I can certainly appreciate any hooker getting paid BCD...that's what we pay for.  But to pay someone to be a "friend" when they are a hooker (or any other trade)...sorry, but that is simply pathetic.

But have no fears little one...plenty of sad, lonely and wealthy mongers don't care.

Just ask vdm

Posted By: SoftlySarah
will never understand the value of what someone like EC has to offer.  
   
 Nobody closes their eyes, ears, and brain during an engagement. That's the difference. It isn't merely sexual skill. This is what many TER people simply cannot comprehend. It has relatively little to do with marketing.  
   
 Every single one of us indulges in something that others find frivolous.  
   
 Again with my favorite quote: "Those who danced were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music."

Ya know, some people would find it pretty silly that you pay top dollar for certain seats at a sporting event. Why not watch it on TV, where you can get the most important parts up close, hear the commentary, etc? Better yet, why bother watching it at all? Who cares?

Are you a sad and rejected high school football player wannabe? A scrawny little man who wishes he were a big sports star?  

Point is, we all value what we value. Stop being such a judgmental asshole about it and just enjoy your pussy and your games the way you want to

Are you "some people" that finds spending $$$ on a sporting event silly?  Seems like a pretty judgmental statement.

Go and read London's post on the "value" of pussy.  You might learn something here.

I don't give a shit what some charge or what some pay.  If you actually followed this thread my position was simply that EC might want to stop defending her rates.  The other posters decided to make a Federal case out of it.  Some will pay it...some won't   But to continuously defend her rates is symptomatic of someone who is concerned about the obvious.

I enjoy my pussy and games just fine.  Thanks for your suggestion  LOL

Posted By: SoftlySarah
Ya know, some people would find it pretty silly that you pay top dollar for certain seats at a sporting event. Why not watch it on TV, where you can get the most important parts up close, hear the commentary, etc? Better yet, why bother watching it at all? Who cares?  
   
 Are you a sad and rejected high school football player wannabe? A scrawny little man who wishes he were a big sports star?  
   
 Point is, we all value what we value. Stop being such a judgmental asshole about it and just enjoy your pussy and your games the way you want to.  
 

I see. You really are a literal thinker. That makes perfect sense. I'll stop using hypotheticals to illustrate points. ;)

Try this one: You like sports. You pay a lot for certain seats. Others like the company of women. They pay a lot for certain experiences. Better?

You weren't using any hypotheticals...you were telling me that YOU think it's foolish to pay for arena seats when the event is televised.

Many agree with you.  Others see it differently.

Same with pussy...you seem to want to deflect the topic over and over.  And want to make it a point that the dollars are the issue.  I haven't said that..nor will I.  What my position is and has been is that paying for anyone (hooker notwithstanding) to be a friend is pathetic.

Try and wrap your head around this.  It's really not all that difficult.

Posted By: SoftlySarah
I see. You really are a literal thinker. That makes perfect sense. I'll stop using hypotheticals to illustrate points. ;)  
   
 Try this one: You like sports. You pay a lot for certain seats. Others like the company of women. They pay a lot for certain experiences. Better?

Where in this did I say it was myself with the opinion? I can see why many would pay top dollar for a front row seat at many sporting events. I can see why people would pay for a lot of expensive things that I might not value as highly. (incidentally, I'd almost give eyeteeth to see a certain team play in the world cup!) Problem is that you can't seem to see that why others would pay for things that other people value highly. Wine, clothes, and cars were specifics you mentioned.

Posted By: SoftlySarah
Ya know, some people would find it pretty silly that you pay top dollar for certain seats at a sporting event. Why not watch it on TV, where you can get the most important parts up close, hear the commentary, etc? Better yet, why bother watching it at all? Who cares?  
   
 Are you a sad and rejected high school football player wannabe? A scrawny little man who wishes he were a big sports star?  
   
 Point is, we all value what we value. Stop being such a judgmental asshole about it and just enjoy your pussy and your games the way you want to.  
 
Ok, so you don't care how much people pay. You just care what they pay for. Problem is you are making a lot of assumptions about what people are paying for. I have never in my capacity as Sarah met the lonely, pathetic men you are constantly babbling on about. And I doubt EC has as well. The screening process eliminates them. Remember, screening is not just about whether a man is le or an abuser. We screen for lots of things- most importantly compatibility.

Again speaking on behalf of another hooker?

Honestly...at your age now you should know better.

Screening...honey you have NO fucking clues.  And considering you've been at this gig for a VERY loooonnnggg time you take what you can get.  Don't forget that the internet NEVER forgets.  LOL

post even more BS that you can't corroborate.

Thanks for playing.

How come you took your links down on the other TER page for HB?  

Posted By: SoftlySarah
when you get flustered.

And I haven't taken any links down from anywhere.

True, but what gets them in the door if not beauty or the sexual skill they have read about in reviews? A guy willing to shuck out thousands does not know that gal until he arrives, unless of course she spends countless hours bantering back and forth before and after each appt. It is very much marketing that allows some to charge more than others, up until the time the guy is enamored by her in person, and returns. The marketing got him in the door to begin with, unless in EC's case she is also drop dead gorgeous and offers the alphabet soup of acronyms. There are women who look nowhere near as good as her, nor do they perform half of what she offers....yet, they are still commanding over a grand per date. Why? Marketing.

many men are not just concerned about sexual skill or beauty- easily conveyed in marketing. They want more.  

Yes, a nice website, nice photos, etc, are all important in getting someone to contact you in the first place. But many times men here have said that they look for clues to her personality to make a decision. And then if they repeat, it could have something to do with marketing, but more likely that they actually had a great time and the price equals the value for them.  

And many high end ladies do banter back and forth before and after the appointment. It's all part of the engagement- the whole package. Busier ladies who charge less don't have the time nor inclination for that kind of "customer service". But then they are not paid for it either, so I don't blame them

So when I compare YOUR review from vdm to his on EC/AD...it's about the same.

So WHY are you ONLY getting a few hundies an hour now?  Even on your old persona from 10 years ago it was still pretty cheap.

Seems like vdm is full of himself and writing reviews to placate hookers...or he is blind.

Your thoughts...if any  :D

Posted By: SoftlySarah
many men are not just concerned about sexual skill or beauty- easily conveyed in marketing. They want more.  
   
 Yes, a nice website, nice photos, etc, are all important in getting someone to contact you in the first place. But many times men here have said that they look for clues to her personality to make a decision. And then if they repeat, it could have something to do with marketing, but more likely that they actually had a great time and the price equals the value for them.  
   
 And many high end ladies do banter back and forth before and after the appointment. It's all part of the engagement- the whole package. Busier ladies who charge less don't have the time nor inclination for that kind of "customer service". But then they are not paid for it either, so I don't blame them.  
 

I am not commanding the rates I previously commanded because I do not offer the same things. I was available at a moment's notice to travel across the planet. I no longer have that freedom due to familial responsibilities. I do not have the freedom to spend several days on an engagement as I did in the past. My body has also changed since my hiatus. And most importantly, my geographic location has changed. There's barely even a 5 star hotel in Tampa (maybe one or two). And Tampa is hardly a cosmopolitan financial destination. So not being able to venture far prevents me from being the type of companion I was previously.

I love that you're so fascinated by vdm. It's cute! :D

Try replying to the question(s) next time.

And at your age there aren't any familial responsibilities that need you to watch the grown up kids.

Trust me on this...they are quite able to run their own lives now  LOL

Posted By: SoftlySarah
I am not commanding the rates I previously commanded because I do not offer the same things. I was available at a moment's notice to travel across the planet. I no longer have that freedom due to familial responsibilities. I do not have the freedom to spend several days on an engagement as I did in the past. My body has also changed since my hiatus. And most importantly, my geographic location has changed. There's barely even a 5 star hotel in Tampa (maybe one or two). And Tampa is hardly a cosmopolitan financial destination. So not being able to venture far prevents me from being the type of companion I was previously.  
   
 I love that you're so fascinated by vdm. It's cute! :D

Jeeze, ya know, they are little buggers, aren't they?

Or perhaps you simply aren't in demand any more.  Getting old is hell...especially for hookers.

Why guys want to spend any real time on long dates is something I really never got.  But then I have my own circle of friends/family that I would rather be with on vacation.  But I know that there are plenty of lonely old men here that are willing to pay to listen to a woman babble.

Something for everyone  LOL

Posted By: SoftlySarah
Jeeze, ya know, they are little buggers, aren't they?

"Lonely old men?" Like losers who sit in their basement stroking their 3 inches while playing on a fuckboard?

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Or perhaps you simply aren't in demand any more.  Getting old is hell...especially for hookers.  
   
 Why guys want to spend any real time on long dates is something I really never got.  But then I have my own circle of friends/family that I would rather be with on vacation.  But I know that there are plenty of lonely old men here that are willing to pay to listen to a woman babble.  
   
 Something for everyone  LOL  
   
Posted By: SoftlySarah
Jeeze, ya know, they are little buggers, aren't they?

But then I guess that MISH is all you really can do at this point.  Sorry...that's what I hear.

Let me know if you want to explore BDSM...or ask EC...she knows  LOL

And since you're trying to see LR...3 inches is all you'll need  :D

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
"Lonely old men?" Like losers who sit in their basement stroking their 3 inches while playing on a fuckboard?  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Or perhaps you simply aren't in demand any more.  Getting old is hell...especially for hookers.  
     
  Why guys want to spend any real time on long dates is something I really never got.  But then I have my own circle of friends/family that I would rather be with on vacation.  But I know that there are plenty of lonely old men here that are willing to pay to listen to a woman babble.  
     
  Something for everyone  LOL  
     
Posted By: SoftlySarah
Jeeze, ya know, they are little buggers, aren't they?

It's ok. This isn't the first um ******* who's had a crush on me. I'm afraid this one is rather serious. Jealousy and bitterness are very attractive  traits. Not.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Try replying to the question(s) next time.  
   
 And at your age there aren't any familial responsibilities that need you to watch the grown up kids.  
   
 Trust me on this...they are quite able to run their own lives now  LOL  
   
Posted By: SoftlySarah
I am not commanding the rates I previously commanded because I do not offer the same things. I was available at a moment's notice to travel across the planet. I no longer have that freedom due to familial responsibilities. I do not have the freedom to spend several days on an engagement as I did in the past. My body has also changed since my hiatus. And most importantly, my geographic location has changed. There's barely even a 5 star hotel in Tampa (maybe one or two). And Tampa is hardly a cosmopolitan financial destination. So not being able to venture far prevents me from being the type of companion I was previously.  
     
  I love that you're so fascinated by vdm. It's cute! :D

Hear hear. Well said.  

Posted By: London Rayne
True, but what gets them in the door if not beauty or the sexual skill they have read about in reviews? A guy willing to shuck out thousands does not know that gal until he arrives, unless of course she spends countless hours bantering back and forth before and after each appt. It is very much marketing that allows some to charge more than others, up until the time the guy is enamored by her in person, and returns. The marketing got him in the door to begin with, unless in EC's case she is also drop dead gorgeous and offers the alphabet soup of acronyms. There are women who look nowhere near as good as her, nor do they perform half of what she offers....yet, they are still commanding over a grand per date. Why? Marketing.

at 2 hours with you for 2000.00 I would indeed give you all 10 ratings I am sure.

That said, the ladies I have seen recently are all 10's in my book and do not
cost me near as much coin. Just sayin.  

BTW

Good For you, nothing wrong with what you are getting but I would almost be scared if
I were a lady seeing somebody willing to pay such a rate...But I am not a provider so wtf do I know

Whether that was a 10/10 or not.  I'm well aware that I can't possibly please everyone, or be everyone's cup of tea... ;-)  

If you've found ladies *you* feel to be 10's at a rate that's comfortable for you - fabulous!  God bless and y'all have fun!  I think that's what most of us are here for.

LOL @ "nothing wrong with what you are getting"  As if there might be!  ;-)  What in the world would be  wrong with what anyone "gets" around here?  How interesting it is... this concept that floats around that some girls ask too much (or that because they do, they somehow think X thing or do Y thing) but no one ever seems to raz the guys who see dozens of girls a month, or several for extended periods. It takes a bit of coin to do that, you know.  So it's ok for guys to make the coin to see the girls (they're often even held in esteem and admired) but heaven forbid a girl make a bit of coin and ask more than "the norm".  *eye roll*  Seems a little silly, doesn't it? ;-)  Like maybe we should be living prior to the 1800's and women aren't considered human beings at all but the same as any other chattel.

And I can't imagine why a lady would be scared to see someone who was comfortable with her rate.... especially if it's higher than "the norm". ;-) If she conducts her screening adequately, she shouldn't be afraid to see anyone at any rate.

Plenty of very expensive pussy is out there.  You charge whatever...and some will pay it.

Most of the hookers that are HDH aren't on TER.  And those that are stay away from the drama that you seem to create with your posts.  Why you need to feel that you have to always justify your rates is puzzling to me.  I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.  

Nor do I whine about it on public boards.

So maybe you should evolve into the 21st century and take a cue from the HDH gals that aren't out there babbling about what they do or don't do...and how much they want to do it.

As I told you a while back...you've changed.  And not IMHO for the better.  You used to be fun here...now you're just boring and condescending.  If that's a model that works for you..great.  Just remember that gravity is not your friend...and time will march on.  Hopefully those "other income" projects are moving forward.

Posted By: EdrienneCole
Whether that was a 10/10 or not.  I'm well aware that I can't possibly please everyone, or be everyone's cup of tea... ;-)    
   
 If you've found ladies *you* feel to be 10's at a rate that's comfortable for you - fabulous!  God bless and y'all have fun!  I think that's what most of us are here for.  
   
 LOL @ "nothing wrong with what you are getting"  As if there might be!  ;-)  What in the world would be  wrong with what anyone "gets" around here?  How interesting it is... this concept that floats around that some girls ask too much (or that because they do, they somehow think X thing or do Y thing) but no one ever seems to raz the guys who see dozens of girls a month, or several for extended periods. It takes a bit of coin to do that, you know.  So it's ok for guys to make the coin to see the girls (they're often even held in esteem and admired) but heaven forbid a girl make a bit of coin and ask more than "the norm".  *eye roll*  Seems a little silly, doesn't it? ;-)  Like maybe we should be living prior to the 1800's and women aren't considered human beings at all but the same as any other chattel.  
   
 And I can't imagine why a lady would be scared to see someone who was comfortable with her rate.... especially if it's higher than "the norm". ;-) If she conducts her screening adequately, she shouldn't be afraid to see anyone at any rate.

Why can't you simply have a discussion? Or at least use "all that money" to pay someone to work out whatever frustration that causes you devolve into such a petty person?  

Nothing about her post warranted that kind of response. And her observations are clearly shown in even your own posts.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Plenty of very expensive pussy is out there.  You charge whatever...and some will pay it.  
   
 Most of the hookers that are HDH aren't on TER.  And those that are stay away from the drama that you seem to create with your posts.  Why you need to feel that you have to always justify your rates is puzzling to me.  I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.    
   
 Nor do I whine about it on public boards.  
   
 So maybe you should evolve into the 21st century and take a cue from the HDH gals that aren't out there babbling about what they do or don't do...and how much they want to do it.  
   
 As I told you a while back...you've changed.  And not IMHO for the better.  You used to be fun here...now you're just boring and condescending.  If that's a model that works for you..great.  Just remember that gravity is not your friend...and time will march on.  Hopefully those "other income" projects are moving forward.  
   
Posted By: EdrienneCole
Whether that was a 10/10 or not.  I'm well aware that I can't possibly please everyone, or be everyone's cup of tea... ;-)    
     
  If you've found ladies *you* feel to be 10's at a rate that's comfortable for you - fabulous!  God bless and y'all have fun!  I think that's what most of us are here for.  
     
  LOL @ "nothing wrong with what you are getting"  As if there might be!  ;-)  What in the world would be  wrong with what anyone "gets" around here?  How interesting it is... this concept that floats around that some girls ask too much (or that because they do, they somehow think X thing or do Y thing) but no one ever seems to raz the guys who see dozens of girls a month, or several for extended periods. It takes a bit of coin to do that, you know.  So it's ok for guys to make the coin to see the girls (they're often even held in esteem and admired) but heaven forbid a girl make a bit of coin and ask more than "the norm".  *eye roll*  Seems a little silly, doesn't it? ;-)  Like maybe we should be living prior to the 1800's and women aren't considered human beings at all but the same as any other chattel.  
     
  And I can't imagine why a lady would be scared to see someone who was comfortable with her rate.... especially if it's higher than "the norm". ;-) If she conducts her screening adequately, she shouldn't be afraid to see anyone at any rate.

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Now that you've  informed  us  you "fucking charge a hell of a lot more " than a grand an hour ,   are you low volume ?   :-D
   
   Are you less angry  on the clock ?  Drama or  fun ?   roflmao    :-D

   Like looks and performance , attitudes are subject to audience  interpretation .  
   
    No more  butter on my popcorn , after  your advice on  gravity .     :-D

   

   
   
       

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Plenty of very expensive pussy is out there.  You charge whatever...and some will pay it.  
   
 Most of the hookers that are HDH aren't on TER.  And those that are stay away from the drama that you seem to create with your posts.  Why you need to feel that you have to always justify your rates is puzzling to me.  I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.    
   
 Nor do I whine about it on public boards.  
   
 So maybe you should evolve into the 21st century and take a cue from the HDH gals that aren't out there babbling about what they do or don't do...and how much they want to do it.  
   
 As I told you a while back...you've changed.  And not IMHO for the better.  You used to be fun here...now you're just boring and condescending.  If that's a model that works for you..great.  Just remember that gravity is not your friend...and time will march on.  Hopefully those "other income" projects are moving forward.  
   
Posted By: EdrienneCole
Whether that was a 10/10 or not.  I'm well aware that I can't possibly please everyone, or be everyone's cup of tea... ;-)    
     
  If you've found ladies *you* feel to be 10's at a rate that's comfortable for you - fabulous!  God bless and y'all have fun!  I think that's what most of us are here for.  
     
  LOL @ "nothing wrong with what you are getting"  As if there might be!  ;-)  What in the world would be  wrong with what anyone "gets" around here?  How interesting it is... this concept that floats around that some girls ask too much (or that because they do, they somehow think X thing or do Y thing) but no one ever seems to raz the guys who see dozens of girls a month, or several for extended periods. It takes a bit of coin to do that, you know.  So it's ok for guys to make the coin to see the girls (they're often even held in esteem and admired) but heaven forbid a girl make a bit of coin and ask more than "the norm".  *eye roll*  Seems a little silly, doesn't it? ;-)  Like maybe we should be living prior to the 1800's and women aren't considered human beings at all but the same as any other chattel.  
     
  And I can't imagine why a lady would be scared to see someone who was comfortable with her rate.... especially if it's higher than "the norm". ;-) If she conducts her screening adequately, she shouldn't be afraid to see anyone at any rate.

I said I charge "a hell of a lot more than you do".

Hourly rates are for employees...I'm not that and haven't been for many years.

Think beyond your cubicle.

ChgoCPA to Edrienne:

Posted By: ChgoCPA
I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.
Neither does EC. ;

She's a competent poster..or at least used to be.

And you know what she is really charging by the hour?  I don't recall you being privy to that...guess she does need some counsel.

Sorry that vdm was stupid enough to post a review exposing her discount(s)....but it's not news.

Maybe you and EC should get together and change up her site and TER page to reflect her new rates...or real rates..or discounted rates?  They should be consistent with the reviews she's asking for.

Posted By: SoftlySarah
ChgoCPA to Edrienne:
Posted By: ChgoCPA
I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.
   
 Neither does EC. ;)  
 

who misunderstood what vdm paid - better yet- is even concerned what others pay in the first place - is you. ;)

The real intel is not posted publicly.

Ask vdm...or reality...they know  LOL

Posted By: SoftlySarah
who misunderstood what vdm paid - better yet- is even concerned what others pay in the first place - is you. ;)

I don't discount my minimum rate of 700, but if a guy offers me say 5k for 2 days when the normal rate might be 7k, don't think I am going to turn that shit down lol. We are not talking about a hundred bucks here, but thousands that are made. From my understanding, this was a 3 day date, all expenses paid and they even posted and read TER for some of it lol. Even if EC stayed 12 hours for the 4 hour rate (not saying that happened because I have no idea) she still made more than what most make in a week. Smart indeedy.

Everything here is negotiable.  So why should any hooker keep on defending her rates to those who aren't buyers?

No reason to other than shit is happening...as in phone silence.

Many of the players buy longer engagements...no news here.  But most are also savvy and won't pay for idle chit chat time as part of it.  But when a hooker needs her bill(s) paid and a dude is willing to drop XXX for a day or week...hence the OTC incorporated into the fees.  

I know vdm is far from stupid....however to publish this info was NOT smart.  That cheapens what a hooker who has now spent at least 3 years building her name into a common hooker.  At overall rates less than what even Sarah is able to get at her advance stage in this gig.

Smart...not if some other dude was willing to pay the freight at "normal" rates  LOL

But since the rent needed to get paid...looks like she took what she could get.

You've got to love capitalism.  Win-win for everyone  :D

Posted By: London Rayne
I don't discount my minimum rate of 700, but if a guy offers me say 5k for 2 days when the normal rate might be 7k, don't think I am going to turn that shit down lol. We are not talking about a hundred bucks here, but thousands that are made. From my understanding, this was a 3 day date, all expenses paid and they even posted and read TER for some of it lol. Even if EC stayed 12 hours for the 4 hour rate (not saying that happened because I have no idea) she still made more than what most make in a week. Smart indeedy.

Finally caught up here. Funny. Not one of your posts is agreed to by anyone. Shocking. Oh I'll tell you again. S L O W L Y the $4k rate was AD's daily rate. SHE WAS LISTED FIRST ON THE REVIEW. EC's rate was her "rack rate." As I said way way too much for you. Worth every penny to me.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
Everything here is negotiable.  So why should any hooker keep on defending her rates to those who aren't buyers?  
   
 No reason to other than shit is happening...as in phone silence.  
   
 Many of the players buy longer engagements...no news here.  But most are also savvy and won't pay for idle chit chat time as part of it.  But when a hooker needs her bill(s) paid and a dude is willing to drop XXX for a day or week...hence the OTC incorporated into the fees.    
   
 I know vdm is far from stupid....however to publish this info was NOT smart.  That cheapens what a hooker who has now spent at least 3 years building her name into a common hooker.  At overall rates less than what even Sarah is able to get at her advance stage in this gig.  
   
 Smart...not if some other dude was willing to pay the freight at "normal" rates  LOL  
   
 But since the rent needed to get paid...looks like she took what she could get.  
   
 You've got to love capitalism.  Win-win for everyone  :D  
   
Posted By: London Rayne
I don't discount my minimum rate of 700, but if a guy offers me say 5k for 2 days when the normal rate might be 7k, don't think I am going to turn that shit down lol. We are not talking about a hundred bucks here, but thousands that are made. From my understanding, this was a 3 day date, all expenses paid and they even posted and read TER for some of it lol. Even if EC stayed 12 hours for the 4 hour rate (not saying that happened because I have no idea) she still made more than what most make in a week. Smart indeedy.

Of course...you wouldn't lie  :D

Bet that you've had a shitload of PM/emails begging you to STFU already too.

Were you the same dude that was orchestrating Paula Deen's PR?

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
Finally caught up here. Funny. Not one of your posts is agreed to by anyone. Shocking. Oh I'll tell you again. S L O W L Y the $4k rate was AD's daily rate. SHE WAS LISTED FIRST ON THE REVIEW. EC's rate was her "rack rate." As I said way way too much for you. Worth every penny to me.  
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Everything here is negotiable.  So why should any hooker keep on defending her rates to those who aren't buyers?  
     
  No reason to other than shit is happening...as in phone silence.  
     
  Many of the players buy longer engagements...no news here.  But most are also savvy and won't pay for idle chit chat time as part of it.  But when a hooker needs her bill(s) paid and a dude is willing to drop XXX for a day or week...hence the OTC incorporated into the fees.    
     
  I know vdm is far from stupid....however to publish this info was NOT smart.  That cheapens what a hooker who has now spent at least 3 years building her name into a common hooker.  At overall rates less than what even Sarah is able to get at her advance stage in this gig.  
     
  Smart...not if some other dude was willing to pay the freight at "normal" rates  LOL  
     
  But since the rent needed to get paid...looks like she took what she could get.  
     
  You've got to love capitalism.  Win-win for everyone  :D  
     
Posted By: London Rayne
I don't discount my minimum rate of 700, but if a guy offers me say 5k for 2 days when the normal rate might be 7k, don't think I am going to turn that shit down lol. We are not talking about a hundred bucks here, but thousands that are made. From my understanding, this was a 3 day date, all expenses paid and they even posted and read TER for some of it lol. Even if EC stayed 12 hours for the 4 hour rate (not saying that happened because I have no idea) she still made more than what most make in a week. Smart indeedy.

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So you are telling me that there is a chance I could afford her??? Happy Day indeed! Got to go look up travel schedule!

Posted By: ChgoCPA
She's a competent poster..or at least used to be.  
   
 And you know what she is really charging by the hour?  I don't recall you being privy to that...guess she does need some counsel.  
   
 Sorry that vdm was stupid enough to post a review exposing her discount(s)....but it's not news.  
   
 Maybe you and EC should get together and change up her site and TER page to reflect her new rates...or real rates..or discounted rates?  They should be consistent with the reviews she's asking for.  
   
Posted By: SoftlySarah
ChgoCPA to Edrienne:
Posted By: ChgoCPA
I fucking charge a hell of a lot more than you for my time...and if someone doesn't want to pay it...no problem.  I don't have a shortage of clients either.
 
     
  Neither does EC. ;)  
 

Now you know as well

Have fun...negotiate tough.

Don't let those mangina boys scare you off  LOL

I'd take a cubicle over momma's basement any day. And you did say you charge more an hour than Ms Cole does.  

Posted By: ChgoCPA
I said I charge "a hell of a lot more than you do".  
   
 Hourly rates are for employees...I'm not that and haven't been for many years.  
   
 Think beyond your cubicle.

But since EC has a rather liberal structure...which rate should I be comparing it to?

Nah...doesn't really matter.  I look at what I've earned on 12/31 and how much time I had to spend earning it...the hourly rates dwarf anything a hooker charges.  But then I don't have a site that lists hourly rates...not how I do business.

And Mom doesn't have a basement anymore...she's moved on up  :D

Do you get spifs from the hookers you give those 10/10's to and then WK for them?  I hope not...you don't do a very credible job.

Posted By: vegasdaddyman
I'd take a cubicle over momma's basement any day. And you did say you charge more an hour than Ms Cole does.    
   
Posted By: ChgoCPA
I said I charge "a hell of a lot more than you do".  
     
  Hourly rates are for employees...I'm not that and haven't been for many years.  
     
  Think beyond your cubicle.

EdrienneCole.

I said good for you. I would just prefer to see 6 ladies a month than you once a month.  

We are on the same page just different books.

nothing wrong with what you are doing and for me nothing wrong with what I am doing.

If you go down the road of me being a loser
and providers that charge a normal rate well that is different.

Your rate is not normal. No worries. have Fun.   oh wait....Make Coin

Edrienne - Thank you, thank you, thank you! Edie xo

Certainly there is the generality of whom much is given much is required, but that is by no means an absolute.  You may be making a faulty assumption that wealth equates with flagrant displays of materialism. I disagree.  Some wealthy people are too down to earth to yell at customer service people, no matter how much they "spend." Some wealthy people are also surprisingly humbile and frugal. Let's use Stephen King for an example. King has earnings totaling approximately 20 Million, yet lives in a relatively modest home in Bangor ME, is home birth advocate, and former Little League coach. Or take Mark Zuckerberg- he's got a net worth of 13.3 Billion and yet drives an Acura and has a very average looking, albeit brilliant wife.

Who is to say that men like that wouldn't engage is p4p is a similar fashion?

You're absolutely right that there's a definite segment of the uber/wealthy who are comparatively frugal.  I did use rather extreme examples (though a $200 bottle of wine isn't) to make a point but I still believe that even a frugal uber/wealthy would expect more from a higher priced item than from a lower priced one - even if they didn't happen to choose THE HIGHEST priced one.  Whether they'd throw a rude fit or be polite but firm is a personality question that neither of us are likely to answer.  

I may be wrong here.  I may be off base.  All I know is what makes sense to me and this whole theory discussed here just does not.

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Appearance, services offered and personality!

However some idiots base their scores on the rate, for example, I just saw a providers profile who received 8s.. when her rate was $275 an HR... now that she's raised her rate to $ 1,200... she's raining 10s.

I would've considered her a 10 at $275... just goes to show the idiocy in some reviewers  

Great thread escalade

As hookers get older and wiser...they learn to game the system.

Some actually offer shit that so many of us berate folks for publicly.  

You hit the nail on the head...the only difference between your hooker pal at 275 and 1200 is 925.

That and boys who are compelled to give her 10's for fear of...well, lots of things  LOL

Posted By: cashorcredit
Appearance, services offered and personality!

However some idiots base their scores on the rate, for example, I just saw a providers profile who received 8s.. when her rate was $275 an HR... now that she's raised her rate to $ 1,200... she's raining 10s.  

I would've considered her a 10 at $275... just goes to show the idiocy in some reviewers  

Great thread escalade
 

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I never considered gaming the system as a possibility.

And you're absolutely correct about the fear element... being pussy whipped could also come into play as well lol

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I never considered gaming the system as a possibility.

And you're absolutely correct about the fear element... being pussy whipped could also come into play as well lol

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Dude I notice the past few months that you got a put down for the females.

Get laid once in a while, you hate for the female species will go away.

You don't like it at all when someone doesn't fall in line with your fucked up, crazy thinking eh?  

I love my women and they respect me, unlike you. Head out of ass works wonders. Cash does too. Notice you don't frequent the hookers much, government cutting you off? lol. STFU government stooge. You don't get paid to flap your mouth off to the big dogs who make far more money. Work harder and you can pay for filling in your loneliness unless you want us to chip in for a charity case?????

Gonna have your fake ass handles rip me a new one? Man with a thousand handles? Doesn't effect me none, gals just love me and my big money. Sad sort you are. You have your lot in life, I have mine. Stop being a disgruntle ass. Not so hard for the sane folk.

**Earned my keep in life.

PS, far better than than the BP cheapos you like . PM if you want to see the high life :

Yea...the sausage fest is fun for a day or two...and the pics are the best thing happening now.

Guess you needed to come back here and find some entertainment.

Stick around...you will  LOL

PS...I think you are still reviewing those BP cheapos.  You may have noticed that I don't review anymore...haven't for two years now.  And I don't do drugs....so I'll take a pass on your invite  LOL

Feel free to PM me if you want to know.  

Posted By: RealityBites
Dude I notice the past few months that you got a put down for the females.  
   
 Get laid once in a while, you hate for the female species will go away.  
   
 You don't like it at all when someone doesn't fall in line with your fucked up, crazy thinking eh?  
   
 I love my women and they respect me, unlike you. Head out of ass works wonders. Cash does too. Notice you don't frequent the hookers much, government cutting you off? lol. STFU government stooge. You don't get paid to flap your mouth off to the big dogs who make far more money. Work harder and you can pay for filling in your loneliness unless you want us to chip in for a charity case?????  
   
 Gonna have your fake ass handles rip me a new one? Man with a thousand handles? Doesn't effect me none, gals just love me and my big money. Sad sort you are. You have your lot in life, I have mine. Stop being a disgruntle ass. Not so hard for the sane folk.  
   
 **Earned my keep in life.  
   
 PS, far better than than the BP cheapos you like . PM if you want to see the high life :D  
   
 

At both the very high AND very low price points, guys expect a very hot girl who ought to be willing to stand on her head naked and spin a pie plate on her toe, while whistling Dixie. In the sweet spot in the middle ie YOUR FAVORITE PRICE POINT (300-350/hr) girls can get consistantly good scores in the 8/9 range by being slightly prettier than average and providing moderately decent, typical GFE fare.

For the sake of brevity I won't extrapolate on this further. :-

providers who charge 500 to 1000 hr have their own set of reg clients who $1000hr is to them a *norm* so its your middle of the road you are speaking of, its your *norm* but not everyones.

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