YOU should pay her to eat, sleep and shit as well.

Just write or call her and say you just need to be sure and you assumed she'd be OTC with you buying the tickets and food.
I  do this all the time with girls and make sure to clarify in advance that, while I'm happy to buy them dinner, I have to plans to also pay to watch them eat it.  No one's said "No" so far.

O think it's best to plan on paying her for the entire time you are together. I'm not quite sure that her time is any less valuable to her when you are at a concert or any place else. I've only had one date that we went out, it was to a Vegas show, I paid for the show and transportation and drinks the entire date was 7 hours and that's what I gave her for a donation. She did hang out with me for almost an hour over, but it was just hang out time. I enjoyed every minute and it was worth every dollar.

JUST ASK! How fucking hard is that? You really need to sound out for advice on something that simple?

I'm not sure I've ever been so scolded for giving my opinion, especially since I was quite respectful about it. I even included a disclaimer of how Mich I consider my opinion to be worth, nothing. And yet she still went off on a rant

Stop pressuring him!

She claimed to have been a TER member for 10 years...yet plays stupid when confronted with the rules plainly stated at the top of the page.

Fk no. I'm not paying for "shared" time. And that's what that would be to me. Not paying for her ticket either. We'll go 50/50 on that too.

Looks like Hell just froze over  LOL

Here's your OP

Hasn't GaG explained this to you enough times?

I've always said, if you put up a reasonable post I'll respond reasonably to it or just remain silent.  And if you hadn't noticed, I simply don't comment on most of your posts, despite your wild accusations that I "stalk" you.
Then there's the assinine post you put up on the DC Board suggesting a provider you'd never met to someone else.  That was idiotic and unhelpful and I said so.
Are we clear?


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You ask if I should pay for 6 hours of concert time, I respond with a "no" and THEN I give you a solid tip on what type of hooker to look for so you don't have to pay for shit like that in the future and based on that...

I have never paid a lady for sex. I give her a donation for her time. It's just that I'm such a sexy stud, they always want to suck and fuck.

but if the client is the one suggesting the activity, then he should pay for the time.

In my case, I generally do, but then I often get a lot of time OTC as well, so it all evens out.

There's no sense in trying to be a bookkeeper* when it comes to these things.

*Three sets of double letters all in a row.  How cool is that?

You seem to believe that negotiating or getting lots of OTC time will somehow effect their performance/attitude. I can tell you straight up you are wrong.  

You can't be

Bite me. No. Please don't. Just ST*U. Btw can you please please tell me who you've seen but not reviewed? I wanna take a pass. Thanks.

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Your words:

bookkeeper*

Your prior post talked about "getting your world rocked" and you implied that wouldn't happen if you negotiated.  

But I can only think of one lady that I see regularly that would ever bring it up.  Since we already do a fair amount of non-sex OTC stuff it would be a no-brainer.  I don't know how well you know the ladies that you see so I would say assume nothing.  Honestly, it seems like a bit of a stretch that a woman you pay for sex would all of a sudden ask you to take her to a concert.  Has it come up?

You two are really perfect together.

My primary reason for not wanting to negotiate is that I don't enjoy it. My Secondary reason though, is that I do feel that it may effect their enthusiasm and therefore their performance, even though you contend that it doesn't. My Tertiary reason is that I can afford the ladies I see, so why try to fix something that isn't broke.

You made a comment earlier about being able to afford more car too...but are content with what you have as it gets you from point A to point B just the same.

Where is the love? eom

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So we can at least try to understand your dumb posts?

If you're going to take a girl out, of course you should pay unless it's made clear it's a "Dutch Date".... You want to impress a girl don't you?   Regarding if it's a hobby date that's between you & the provider to arrange what's appropriate ....

My methods of my hobby style may not be the same as others & OTC outings differs with each client, I don't do OTC for everyone,  it's depends on the chemistry...  But it's the providers methods & you have to respect it... Come to a common ground. Btw I offered the OTC, the hobbyist did not ask he willing to pay for my time for the game.... I was overwhelmed by his generosity during our session & so grateful I offered the OTC... If it was a different person I would of charged him...  But talk to her & come to a common ground. Maybe do a session before your outing & put extra TY's in it, or just plain out offer a one reasonable sum... Idk... But def have to respect the providers system... Good luck...

You need to ask her, to propose exactly what you have in mind, and let her decide if she would like to accept. Doesn't matter if it is here or in civvy-land.  

Her advice was even worse than the advice that you give out, if that's even possible, but yes she actually told newbies that they should TOFTT without regards for the consequences, because in her words "everyone deserves a chance"

I dare you to defend those words given to a newbie with next to no experience in the hobby.

I've been with many a lady who has actually laughed at some of the chumps that pay full price and get barely adequate service.

Some women will lose all respect for a guy who is so malleable that he will actually overpay thinking he is getting her "best". A woman will give you her "best" for several reasons, she might just be a professional who gives her best in all sessions, she might actually have "chemistry" with certain clients, or she might know that certain clients will only be satisfied and willing to rebook with her if she gives her best and that subpar won't cut it with those clients.

You would actually be surprised just how much "wiggle room" there is in most ladies rates. It's funny, but in Costa Rica I often negotiate the already low rates down there, not because I care about the money, but just so they know I am not some dumb gringo, most often I still give them their full rate anyhow, but it's my choice to do so, not because I am a pushover. The gringos that pay full price usually get the bums rush because the chicas know they can get away with it with those guys and that they can't get away with it with me. The same thing often applies in the states, it's to a lesser degree of course, but the same principle.

Plausible deniability Tids? Why don't you read the thread THEN decide if you "want to see her really bad."

Good answer.

Lets see if he's got the balls to disagree with his "pretty lady" or if he is going to blindly follow her into the abyss.

I have to give GLS huge props for dumping her after she started biting the hand that feeds her, not to mention that same hand is their bread and butter as well

Some clueless john calls us angry. And feel the exact same way, the john has nothing of importance to impart and is grasping.

Re: Where is the love? eom

Ok pretty Lila just for you. Just for you.  

hey all,

Or at least that's how it used to be. And, not talking about the prom.

Do you really think everyone is going to do the something?