Keep some playtime pillows and not go nuts. There are reasons for using pillow under your back and you know why.
Providers I have seen does not live where they play. This is the reason I prefer hotels/apartments where they lives. Whenever I see in call residence, I stay away for than one reason.Interested in what the ladies have to say...
After reading the thread from few steps below.
I think I should pour myself a drink and get ready for the entertainment.
would farting when I cum be annoying or a fetish?
just that it was going to be a long, long list. lol
And other times, it's a treat. The trick is (no pun intended) is to get more treats than tough ones.
Sometimes it's just like a box of chocolates, you never know what you et until you try one. And then it's a case of spit or savor.
I always smear fish, onions and horseradish on my junk before getting a BBBJ.
lmao
1) The biggie - disrespect of time. How it mainly manifests itself w/my clients: "Well, let's do [insert my shortest date here], but stay as long as you'd like, and you can sleep here if you want'. I've had REALLY nice clients ask this, but yet I've never wanted to. Who doesn't love his/her own bed? Overnights are hard enough even with a SO, or while getting paid EXTRA...what with farting, snoring, neck-breathing, drooling, blanket-stealing, gropey fingers, tickling, hard cocks poking at 1 am and again at 5 am (just as I was finally drifting off). Not to mention cuddling through all of the above while sleep-deprived and woken up multiple times...if a guy wants to get kissed in the AM and not bitten, he better PAY. Make me grateful to be there.
2) Meeting us one time and then asking us out on a free date, so you can 'get to know us better'. Happened last weekend. Am I not an escort?
3) Stinky dick. Nuff said.
4) Clients who clearly expect extra time or favors in exchange for a good review.
5) Boundary-pushing. Some girls are more open to certain things (slapping, bbfs, rimming, finger-up-butthole)...do it with THEM, rather than trying it multiple times with a girl who says 'NO' and hoping she'll eventually change her mind.
Basically, I wish clients would respect this as a way for us to pay bills and get ahead. NOT see it as fun and games, worth what you'd pay teenagers for mall money.
Is hand holding and cuddling OK?
I could not have said it better!
2) Meeting us one time and then asking us out on a free date, so you can 'get to know us better'. Happened last weekend. Am I not an escort?
3) Stinky dick. Nuff said.
4) Clients who clearly expect extra time or favors in exchange for a good review.
5) Boundary-pushing. Some girls are more open to certain things (slapping, bbfs, rimming, finger-up-butthole)...do it with THEM, rather than trying it multiple times with a girl who says 'NO' and hoping she'll eventually change her mind.
Basically, I wish clients would respect this as a way for us to pay bills and get ahead. NOT see it as fun and games, worth what you'd pay teenagers for mall money.
In the old days, I would have created an alias just to respond to you. It would have been BinacaJaguar.
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That was downright depressing. I don't want a lady who doesn't even want to come during the session.
That in order for you to be happy with the session she must want to come.
For the sake of this topic let's pretend that you can say that.
The "want to come" and actually doing it can depend a lot on you. So, given that, do you need her to actually come or just want to come? And her knowing that is your preference, does it matter if she it real or faked. We are in the business of providing an EXPERIENCE for you
From all my experiences so far, I seem to have met ladies who actually enjoy sex. I would hate to come across one that only does this for the money. Hell for that I might as well take on the streetwalkers who say they need bus fare and ask if they can suck my dick for $5. If I had to tell her upfront, clearly I haven't read up on and chosen the right girl in the first place.
Your choices have all enjoyed sex with you or at the very least "seemed" to? I am surprised that you did not use an absolute, as in actually positively enjoy the sex. So in fact you might have come across one who just did this for the money but was able to thoroughly convince you otherwise.
I am not trying to be bloody minded Crisis25, I do look at this from a very logical position and given all the variables, understand that at least one time you may have encountered a woman that was so convincing, you were none the wiser.
Bottom line, as long as you have had a great experience, that is really all that matters.
I meant enjoy sex in general. Not necessarily with me. I'd hate to have sex with a lady that isn't enjoying herself. And you shouldn't assume all men are cocky that I would be absolutely sure they have enjoyed me. I started doing this to get some conference in myself.
I am not trying to be bloody minded Crisis25, I do look at this from a very logical position and given all the variables, understand that at least one time you may have encountered a woman that was so convincing, you were none the wiser.
Bottom line, as long as you have had a great experience, that is really all that matters.
"I meant enjoy sex in general. Not necessarily with me. I'd hate to have sex with a lady that isn't enjoying herself."
So if a lady enjoys sex in general and then you hire her to have sex with you and she is not enjoying herself, would you rather she said so and stopped or be the professional she is and lead you to believe she is?
So no, that does not mean she enjoys it with you, the next guy that week, or everyone. We are paid to ACT. Bottom line. I can act like I enjoy sex with a certain person easier than acting like I give a shit about the stuff coming out of their mouths. There is a bored/annoyed look on my face whilst in conversation that cannot be taken off if I am seriously not interested. With sex, it is easy as pie to pretend to enjoy it, and fake that enjoyment, though I will never fake a damn orgasm.
Guys who insist on a provider actually getting off with every date, are really naive and demanding. How would a guy feel if we providers were like, "Are you going to cum yet...come on baby, come for me" as if it is something you can do on demand. Some can, but some cannot.
You say, "I would hate to run into a lady who did not enjoy sex" but you probably have, and more than once. The reason you will never know is because the money they are being paid prompts them to pretend to enjoy it, and with you.
If I were fkin 5 guys a day, there is no way I would enjoy it. That is why I don't operate that way.
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Funny thing was I almost directed him to your post a bit lower down. Thanks for chiming in.
Now you both got me depressed, nice job.
The guy I am about to see is extremely unattractive and there is no way in hell anything is going to happen naturally, not even if I close my eyes and fantasize. And yes he expects it too. He keeps coming back to see me because I give him what he needs, it's my job that I get paid for.
For the record I really enjoy sex, with a partner of my choosing with whom I am attracted to.
Could you perform if a woman 30 years older than you, obese and unattractive wanted to engage in sexual activity with you? That is if you could even get an erection. Please, have a little common sense. You choose us, we do not choose you. If there does happen to be a guy we can enjoy the sex with many of us can let ourselves go and do just that.
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You know I've considered that, get written into some rich old ladies will and reap the benefits.
Could you perform if a woman 30 years older than you, obese and unattractive wanted to engage in sexual activity with you? That is if you could even get an erection. Please, have a little common sense. You choose us, we do not choose you. If there does happen to be a guy we can enjoy the sex with many of us can let ourselves go and do just that.
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Neither of us are responsible for your feelings. You chose to be "depressed". You could just as easily saw this game for what it is, and been happy that you have had some good experiences and let it be.
If you have to live in your fantasy bubble that every provider you meet really likes you, then don't read these threads lol. I can assure you, it will bust that fantasy all to shreds. We like some of our clients, and we don't like others. Some are hot, some are not. Some are great in bed, and some are HORRIBLE. Any and every business deals with these same things.
Actually I've found it quite the opposite. As I said earlier reading these posts helps me do research to find the right ladies.
to have Logic. Illusions are not logical
This is actually very sad. This lady should probably re-read what she has written, and decide today to change her life and find a profession she actually enjoys. Happiness is significantly more rewarding than money and it is pretty clear that this provider isn't happy.
I generally have and show respect for everyone. The only people who I actually don't respect are hypocrites and extremely greedy people. People who value money higher than being happy are extremely greedy and rob themselves of the joys of life. So, giving this lady the benefit of the doubt, she might not have realized how much she hated her life - as she was too wrapped up in it.
Ladies, if you feel this way, find something that makes you happy. You deserve it. If this makes you happy, by all means, keep doing it - we obviously appreciate you!
Do you think her "clients" know how she feels? Nope. Do you think this attitude shows in her dates? Nope. She is getting paid to ACT, and if she did not do it well, her reviews would reflect it. This was posted in 2007 when I first came across the link for it on another board, so who knows if she is still around now. I would hope the volume is not the same, because anyone admitting to seeing 5 and 6 guys a day, has reason to be pissy.
Keep in mind all of this came out after "A two hour NCNS" left her without an explanation and lost money. So many times we put up with so much shit for the money, a good review, making you guys happy, etc. it's unreal. It is nice when we can find guys who actually do care about more than just a nut, and regard us as human beings vs. just a cum dumpster.
I have no doubt she was a great actress, as you noted her reviews would have reflected that. I agree with you. I am simply eluding to the point that if she feels like the majority of her clients view her as a "cum-dumpster", and this bothers her - she should seek new employment. Going through life unhappy is no way to live. Maybe I am missing some major point, but this makes me feel bad for providers who feel this way.
Keep in mind all of this came out after "A two hour NCNS" left her without an explanation and lost money. So many times we put up with so much shit for the money, a good review, making you guys happy, etc. it's unreal. It is nice when we can find guys who actually do care about more than just a nut, and regard us as human beings vs. just a cum dumpster.
then want to bitch about the outcome of their own actions. Don't like having to fk 5 guys a day? Go Indy, charge more, work less. Seems simple enough to me. I did the very same thing when I started out as a non-gfe with lower rates. That lasted less than a year, then I made a change. Have not looked back, and can't say I have many complaints about the way my business runs today.
I am not on my back or knees all day, and I find the clients I see are far better than the ones I met in 2008 when I was charging by the hour. Guys who ONLY book multi hour dates, are seldom the ones looking to just bust a nut.
I really financially cant got to soley multi hour dates, unless I had back up income, which I dont... It is this market where I am located in, the OTHER board is the the most used one for my area, and you got gals doing quickies, and cheap ass shit...
it has really changed the hobbyist in my area... I wish I could move EAST~!
If you asked most people to write down aspects of their job that irked them or they wished they could change, there would be a very similar outcome. Why this sounds so harsh to many guys is because of the nature of this business.
She is critiquing you (collective) and it's personal. From a provider perspective a lot of what she said is true. If she broke it down to say three items it would not have been such an assault. However, the list is long. And her delivery might have been more compassionate.
I feel this way after a client because they have either licked my face, tried to jam in fingers as soon as they walked in the door or tweaked my nipples so hard I have visibly flinched. Does that mean I should give this up because I had a not so great client that day? Hardly.
Over all, I am not adverse to doing this. The rough guys, the lickers etc are removed from my list of desirable clients. That way, I don't feel like that on a regular basis. If I HAD to see guys like that all the time, well yes, I would quit and keep working at the piggly wiggly as my only source of income.
I took that statement (about her sarcasm) as a sign that she was letting the reader know she was going a little overboard to make a point. Additionally, she was pissed (as others here pointed out) about the NCNS. Surely we all have had a life/work experience that caused us to let'er rip about how we felt.
We should take what she said in that light and use it to enhance our experiences from here on out.
Were we able to know if she continually felt this way and possibly still does that would different.
Would it be better received?
How about I rewrite it lol. I am sure that would go over really well. You guys know how "gentle" I can be about such things bwahahahaha. I am surprised she did not touch on guys who overstay, don't want to screen, ask for discounts because they are cute, and threats of a bad review if she does not offer BBFS.
So as not to drown the poor guys in some things that can and do make this line of work difficult for some of us sometimes.
Seems to me if the guys that read it pay attention all the way to the end and note the "sarcasm" comment they wouldn't be so bummed out about it. I can't believe they haven't used this same form of communication to make a point. She didn't say anything I haven't read elsewhere and/or heard from some women while having a frank discussion about sex.
Pretty damn depressing. That is an attitude people can do without encountering
A lady with her scores and reviews is not going to go into a session with that attitude.
Sadly you guys are getting a dose of reality today and it can be pretty tough to take.
So, how does either one of you know her scores and reviews. I don’t think she is brave or stupid to include her provider name or links to her review if, such a thing even exist
SHe mentions it in her first paragraph. Now she could be full of it, or not. You do make a very valid point, there is nothing to verify if they exist.
Interesting though that myself and London have somewhat agreed with much of what she said and London is very well reviewed and well, I am a silly brown (Chgcpa) yellow (to everyone else) envelop. So I guess given that, you throw it out anything I said.
This is not new material. There are a few blogs out there that say some similar things, some very harsh, others with a more gentle slant.
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I think they have all had enough for one day. I just pointed out all the ways in which we can fake and it might have been the straw that breaks the camels back for some guys. I need to quit, right now.
when you smell like s***... literally. No.
The two most annoying is being a 'dick', (which gets him kicked out,) and telling me how to run my life when I didn't ask, or even initiate the opportunity.
Is being told frequently that you're gorgeous annoying? EOM