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Why is it so hard for you guys to verify?
Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 2930 reads
posted
1 / 35

I just want to be safe?

You do understand that you might be a nice safe guy but how will I know this?

All I need is something social media or license pic or work badge?

You do realize the huge risk we are taking?

I mean I have over 600 reviews on Here and other sites so you know that I'm safe I'm just asking for them same something that says that you are!

Hugs Hazel Hayes

CuriousGeorge1152 58 reads
posted
2 / 35

But you're  not sharing your license pic so the exposure risk for the client is higher than you.  References and/or p411 should allow both parties sufficient anonymity.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 62 reads
posted
3 / 35

intrusiveness and personal exposure that the screening requires.  I don't know how often you follow this board, but there have been many threads started by customers who were outed and and/or blackmailed by providers who required their personal information for screening and they were stupid enough to give it.  

 
Whether or not your reviews can allay these concerns of potential customers depend on whether they are even aware of them and what ad platform they found you on.  When I was new, I was seeing providers from That Mall and Eros in LA.  It was nearly a year before I found out about TER and the reviews they had on many of the girls I was seeing on the ad platforms.  

inicky46 61 Reviews 58 reads
posted
4 / 35

you need to understand we have legitimate concerns too. I'm sure you've seen stories about goys who gave up their real-world info only to be doxed by a BSC provider. That can ruin lives. These are two sides of the same coin and it's not going to change.

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 51 reads
posted
5 / 35

I take p411  
I take references  
I take PMs from sites with history  
Screening from Adult sites  

I give many many options but guys are still like no I can give anything my privacy is more important  

Than the safety of the providers? We deserve a right to be safe and come home to our families...

What guy is afraid of not death that's for sure

H.H.

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 184 reads
posted
6 / 35

So client is afraid of blackmail  
But yet the guy that said to me yesterday  

I ran his information he was a known conficted RAPIST

So his lie about be afraid of blackmail was to cover what he really wanted to do to me  

So safety vs Blackmail  
One could be death you understand that right

Just happened to a provider in Vegas recently  

Again which is worse

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 56 reads
posted
7 / 35

You get outed by some bad providers  

All providers worried about death rap and robbery  

It's more dangerous for us

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 62 reads
posted
8 / 35

This is why I took time out to meet you Hazel when you visited San Diego and I bought you lunch in little Italy. I think if all providers utilized their resources by referring their friends, then we can all be friends. Whitelist on TER it’s kind of a big deal. We used to be able to whitelist other providers.

I only receive referrals from my better half’s friends & my girlfriends. 👯‍♀️ I am just trying to help make this community better. When I first started my own escort agency I would screen once, then introduce the gent to all my girlfriends. They trusted me, and never needed to be vetted again.  

I think it’s a shame all providers don’t share their clients because the majority are recycled anyways. There is no competition because we are all unique. The bottom line is if they don’t want to verify don’t waste your time if that’s what you require simply move on & find someone who fits your needs. I don’t screen my friends friends, so it’s beneficial to make real friends in this industry that don’t mind sharing & caring. Smile for me! 😁

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 56 reads
posted
9 / 35

Thanks again for meeting me ☺️  

I have met plenty of providers and give references and referrals for girls I know and help previous clients know when a provider is safe and legitimate too

I always go above and beyond  
My 14yrs of Experience and reputation so I'm ok to share information with me  

I explain to the clients if you ever need to trust someone once with your information it's me then I can and will be your reference going forward...

But guys if you seen catfish tv show it's a simple as Google the girls number or her name even Google search the photos to see if they are her not stolen  

At this point in technology era every one should know how to use Google  
You do it for restaurants and shows do for the providers too

Keep it simple as QueenBia said

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 61 reads
posted
10 / 35

NO screening, only that it should be as unintrusive as possible.  The only kind of screening I will agree to is two provider references I have seen in the past 60 days.   There are a few providers that have wanted more, so I just draw a line through their name and move on to the next lady on my list.  

 
Sometimes, customers are negotiable on what information they are willing to give.  If you ask them what information they would feel comfortable sharing so that you can ensure your safety, they may suggest something that would be acceptable to both of you.  Some providers who have a checklist of non-negotiable items they DEMAND in order to see someone puts off a potential customer from even making contact, so you don't even know if here was something that could be worked out that you are both comfortable with.  

davincib1 91 Reviews 57 reads
posted
11 / 35

If you take all the above, you can't be talking to this crowd.  Anyone not willing to submit any of one of the above screening criteria is someone you do not need to see IMO.  Now if you were one of those that need additional info plus P411, references, PMs then I'd say it's a YOU issue.  

RespectfulRobert 56 reads
posted
12 / 35

Yes, in general, this lifestyle is more dangerous for the women, certainly in terms of physical safety, for the most part with very few exceptions. But just bc it is more dangerous for you, that doesnt mean that a guy being outed wont have his life destroyed. Many of them have. There are countless examples on this board and others like it.
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I really dont understand why this is an issue. Ladies have to do what they feel comfortable with re: their verification methods. I will never try and talk you out of doing something that gives you peace of mind and a feeling of security. That said, guys should then be able to do what they wish. If they see a girl has more intrusve screening methods that they fee comfortbale with, they should contact a different provider who asks for less.  
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I just dont believe either side should tell the other side what to do or belittle the other side. None of us can possibly know the other person's risk tolerance, lived experiences and what they have to lose. This is also an illegal business so most of us our paranoid, and rightly so, to begin with. "You do you" is the sentiment I have about it and you shouldn't be mocked or derided for how you, or anyone, handles their decisions re: screening.

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 55 reads
posted
13 / 35

No I don't need a lot and don't ask a lot  
But it was guy trying to hide bad behavior before  

So anytime someone is sketchy about giving anything I worry  

Thanks

inicky46 61 Reviews 62 reads
posted
14 / 35

But short of that, losing your wife, your home, your kids, your job and your reputation is plenty bad enough.
Consider that.
And I'm not saying that means you shouldn't screen. Just that you might try to be a bit more understanding of why many guys are reticent to provide real-world info.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 58 reads
posted
15 / 35

12 years ago who took his own life after being outed by a provider on social media.  (I don't think the term "doxed" was in usage yet, but same thing). For a guy who has a wife and family and is cheating on them, being outed can be worse than death.  A double life is not for the faint-hearted, given what can happen if you trust someone that you shouldn't.  

milesandmiles 2 Reviews 60 reads
posted
16 / 35

Being the proverbial lurker I have seen Hazels, posts, ads etc and she has a point that we know with as much certainty as possible that we will have a great experience and be safe with her. Having said that we need to provide something that will make her feel relatively certain she will be safe.....just not RWI. References, P411, which I believe is all she is asking for. I think most will agree.

Rafl 51 reads
posted
17 / 35

Way too invasive the information you want. I’ll stick with the ones who are well reviewed that don’t want a deposit and tons of none of your business info.

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 58 reads
posted
18 / 35

I don't require just real world information  

I ask for anything  

Something not nothing  

Just you have to understand you can't come back from DEATH... embarrassment or divorce is not Death  

I m not speaking for everyone or every provider

I'm saying guys can't expect to call escorts and not give something anything up to see us We don't need to see strangers  

The guy in question said I was blackmailed before but it was lie he says to all potential girls and sees girls twice a week without giving up any information  
He has a record of RAPE  

So your defending a Rapist right to remain Anonymous  

That's all my screening is very open I still deserve we all do to play safely  

Hugs Hazel

Hazelvip See my TER Reviews 57 reads
posted
19 / 35

I don't require that information  

 if your white listed your good
If you have a reference I'm good

Why did u think I said I only take real world information???!

Also hard to find providers nowadays who want reviews or have almost 500 reviews like me ...there's a few of us providers like that  

I not saying that I need only business or real world information just something so I know I will be safe and ALIVE after an appointment  

That's it  

Hazel Hayes

SinCitySinner 65 Reviews 54 reads
posted
20 / 35

Most serious mongers who don't go for cheap hookers and want to spend time with someone reputable presence will be just fine with one of the many options you have provided...

 
It is a problem when someone says that you HAVE TO provide your Linked In or Facebook.. Then I have to move on.  Being a small business owner with a huge online presence, I would prefer that my clients don't find out about my extra curricular activities.

milesandmiles 2 Reviews 52 reads
posted
21 / 35

Didn't read closely enough. I agree that no real life info should be shared., as I said before. Re read OP and she's looking for drivers license etc. IMO not acceptable. Again references, P411 all good.

John_Laroche 47 reads
posted
22 / 35

Same advise for mongers who don't want to provide this level of information.  
You have hundreds of reviews,  so why concern yourself with guys who won't comply. Spend your energy cultivating your regulars.

Rafl 46 reads
posted
23 / 35

Exactly. Same shit about the deposits. If potential clients don’t want to do it just don’t see them. No one dies from lack of nookie.

Posted By: John_Laroche
Re: Just move on  
Same advise for mongers who don't want to provide this level of information.  
 You have hundreds of reviews,  so why concern yourself with guys who won't comply. Spend your energy cultivating your regulars.

mr5mike 7 Reviews 46 reads
posted
24 / 35

Agree completely. For verification (and deposits and price range), whatever doesn't sit right for you just find someone who does.

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 56 reads
posted
25 / 35

They're not saying their privacy is more important than your safety.

They're saying their privacy is more important than them seeing you (or anyone else who screens like that).

 
There is irony in you saying the clients aren't considering your safety, yet you seem to not understand their concerns for their  privacy.

WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 47 reads
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26 / 35

I would really hope that no client would ever even consider contacting me to try and negotiate my rates or my screening requirements. Move on to another provider. It for sure weeds out clients that I would not want to see anyway. Thanks for the positive reminder!!

djrunner 177 Reviews 60 reads
posted
27 / 35

Now you have me rethinking forwarding my linkedin. Probably not the greatest idea going forward. Thanks for the added insight.

inicky46 61 Reviews 56 reads
posted
28 / 35

I was obviously speaking in generalities and I stand by what I said. For you to use that to accuse me of "defending a Rapist" is complete bullshit and makes you seem, well, not very bright.
I'll pass on the "Hugs."

team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 50 reads
posted
29 / 35

I find it interesting how the convo went  

First was "why is it so hard to do x", like the answer wasn't known

When given an answer as to why, now it becomes a matter of whose privacy is more important. And if you dare to suggest that a clients privacy is important, you by some phantom logical link are accused of defending r8pists

 
If a person doesn't want to understand or value my privacy, it gives me even less of a reason to entrust my private info to them.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 56 reads
posted
30 / 35

business and you get to run it the way you want to.  I'm just saying that in ANY business, too much rigidity in what it takes accomplish an acceptable screening for both parties MAY have some wiggle room for one of the other, and that possibility may result in a profitable transaction.  Buyers have more options than sellers, so looking for some common ground on which to do business is not always a fool's errand.  Communication is the key, but you have every right as the owner to set whatever limits you want, even to foreclose the possibility of any such communication.  If may cost you some business that you could have gotten, but if you don't care, that's okay, too.   Your pussy, your rules.  I have always believed this.  

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 53 reads
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31 / 35
WIMissScarlet See my TER Reviews 52 reads
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32 / 35

Just to be clear you are not going to get any sympathy from most of the guys that post on this board. There are WAY more clients out there that will happily follow your rules to spend time with you, but most are not posting here. You are not leaving money on the table by not negotiating your screening requirements. You are leaving a giant egotistical dirt ball that will give you nothing but a head ache or worse rob, rape, or murder you. NEVER worth it.  
And also the whole case of "blackmail" is once again just another excuse, don't fall for it. The ones I have seen were guys that did zero research and were only looking at big tiddies when they sent all of their info over before they knew it was a scammer. Or another one of my favorites is a provider that requires a cancellation fee and our gent in question cancels last minute but then doesn't want to pay the cancellation fee and now she is demanding he pay. These are going to be the two biggest reasons a guy says he is being "blackmailed" and both are caused by stupidity and an inability for a client to take personal responsibility for his actions. In short, not my problem, or yours!!

dahlithecandy See my TER Reviews 62 reads
posted
33 / 35

All these discussions are amazing and helpful.  

I ask for a selfie so I know who I am meeting with so I can prepare in my mind. This is not to sound snobbish but some people show up and I know my face dropped in  negative way that maybe subconsciously hurt his feelings. I am not here to make people feel bad.  
In fact its literally the opposite.  I am here to help the feel good vibes flow like champagne. Safety is important to me too..LIKE I keep saying I'm learning a lot about this

I dont want peoples personal life information so I can blackmail them, I just don't. I sometimes am surprised how people talk to me and don't get me wrong some of them I'd love to tel their mommas but I really just wanted to be a good hooker. ;-)

James_Stance 66 Reviews 51 reads
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34 / 35

The problem is that some of the private information that is being shared is being put on you guys' blacklisted sites. And mongers who are put on those sites are put there for little to no real reason at all. A monger doesn't even have to have met the provider to be put on those sites.

James_Stance 66 Reviews 54 reads
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35 / 35

And when providers brag about this on twitter and reddit, most providers stay silent and don't speak up.

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