I dont meet with providers that only take phone calls to schedule. I have to cover up this hobby from my S.O. and phone calls are the only contact method that leave a paper trail, at least in my particular scenario.
I can delete all traces of texts and emails like they never existed (yes I know you can request text message records, but she wont do that unless she had a reason to), but I cant make an outgoing phone call without it showing up on my cell phone invoice. My provider logs every call with the phone number clearly listed. A quick Google search by my S.O. and everything would fall apart. And before you say I should get another phone - dont. Thats not an acceptable solution for me. Id get busted just as bad with a private second phone than her finding the phone calls on the invoice.
I struggle to think of a legitimate reason that providers wont communicate via text/email, especially now in 2013. So please, enlighten me providers.
texts and and email for correspondence. Are you seeing BP girls, because those are the ads where I see it typically mentioned that hobbyists shouldn't text or email but call instead.
But my question remains, whats the reason? I see no logical reasoning here...
You are seeing lower end providers that do short sessions. "Revolving door" providers don't have time for emails and texts. Most of the ladies I see don't even give out phone numbers and are email only!
On another note, why the hell aren't you using a hobby phone?
I agree with most of that but I enjoy the adventure of potentially giving an "aspiring" hooker an opportunity for reviews. My failures are greater than my suck-cesses but I don't mind.
THIS pretentious "I'm highly reviewed" shit doesn't impress me. Gives them reason to exploit the YMMV factor
But your reasons for seeing the "lower end" gals are completely different from the OP's, and you are not here bitching about them not using email and texting. 
Don't you have a big football game to be at?
Its people like you that keep me out of the GD forum. Bunch of dicks in here.
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I gave you an honest answer up above. You can always go back to the newbie board, where you will get the same answers in a little nicer tone.
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I'm sitting in a cab as we speak.
I like texting also for general info. Then a phone call to establish personality or lack there of.
Are you following me around? Lol
Go NINERS!
Two FMF sessions later. Damn I love young Atlanta girls
On another note, why the hell aren't you using a hobby phone?
Because I dont want to risk getting caught with a private, secretive second phone.
That may be the reason they dont do texting/email, but it makes no business sense whatsoever. My $80 or $100 via text is better than $0 through phone only.
That is kind of the same thing as wondering why $200 BP girls that do half hour appointments dont do emails and texts.
As to the ladies you are seeing, their method of phone call ony communication makes perfect business sense to them.
The ladies you are seing are trying to get most bang for the buck. They dont want to spend time texting etc. They probalby dont have internet access or no time to log on and off a computer for checking emails. Phone calls are the best way for them to conduct business. Why should they be spending all that time doing back and forth communication when they could be fucking? I am betting they dont do much if any screening either. The higher end ladies have the time to do email correspondence, and dont mind taking time communicating rathere than lying on their backs. If you up your game, you will see that. I am not telling you that you have to up your game. Play at the level you want, but then deal with it and stop complaining about it.
As for the hobby phone, thousands of hobbyists have found ways to hide a second phone, easier than trying to hide call logs like you are. That is another issue that is your problem. If you dont want to get a hobby phone, then deal with it.
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But my question remains, whats the reason? I see no logical reasoning here...[/quot
How they prefer to communicate should be the last thing you are worried about when the ladies you are reviewing receive 2's and 4s for bait and switch and being mechanical. BP ladies answer the phone to attempt to get a "feel" for who they are talking to, to see if you are LE or whathaveyou. Plain and simple
How they prefer to communicate should be the last thing you are worried about when the ladies you are reviewing receive 2's and 4s for bait and switch and being mechanical. BP ladies answer the phone to attempt to get a "feel" for who they are talking to, to see if you are LE or whathaveyou. Plain and simple
I too, don't understand why any provider would rather deal with time wasters and bs on the phone, vs. via email, but I digress. I don't even give out a number until screening is done, and a date is set. Guys sending random text messages when not warranted, are never acceptable, nor should providers do that shit either!
Texting had nothing to do with minutes
My real life plan is with Sprint and I have unlimited free texts, but with old plans I had with Boost and Virgin Mobile, texting wasn't free and each text reduced my available minutes.
and they also make it difficult to make 'intuitive judgments' about guys. With email, I can look at how a man writes, what he says, how he says it, and I can get a feel about him. Same with phone (although I'm email only). Text don't allow for that. Or even if I do get all the info I need via text, it takes toooooo many back and forths to get it.
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Many ladies who only use BP, do not have Internet access, & even fewer have an e-mail, or access to it. I have heard many times, that they have their friends with a debit card post up their ad, with their phone #, & past that point, have no interaction with the ad. Some do not even have their own phone & they share it with other provider friends. Many have phones that are pay-as-you-go, & text messages can cost up to $1/text. MANY gents do not only send 2 texts, & schedule an appt, & many texts stretch up to 20 messages back & forth... only to have the guy not schedule.. and now they are running low on minutes. Compared to a phone call, where they can hear your voice(probably screening you this way), & only use 2 minutes, vs. 20 with texting. I had a provider friend some years back, that in one day, put 240 minutes on her Tracfone.... used ALL the minutes texting back & forth with potential clients.... and the end result was ONE appointment.
I personally only take text or e-mail to schedule, & then require a phone call to confirm the appointment.
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when you're exchanging emails and/or TER pm's with a provider you want to see for the first time and things are going really well. They're getting kind of flirty and you're ready to book the appointment and all of the sudden the emails and pm's stop.
It's happened a couple of times recently with me. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but can't help but wonder what happened.
Its maddening but its just a fact of the biz. Sometimes its something we do/write, and the girl takes it the wrong way and we never know about it. Sometimes the girl has issues in her personal life. Sometimes they take a break w/o wrapping up biz that had going on. A percentage of them are on meds or should be. Million reasons.
Seriously.
Texting with a client that I've met before can be okay if they don't get out of hand with their expectations of constant text stimulation.
Texting with new clients is dreadful. You don't have a sense of who you're speaking with- just a number and whatever broken messages they want to send. If someone is using Google Voice and they're texting like an IM conversation with full sentences that is fine. If someone is adept at using their smart phone and they are prepared with their information (name, requested day/time, reference information) that is fine too.
If its one line after one like ("Hi" "How r u " "U available" "When u available" "whats rate" "how much for greek" " where are u at" - that is just nonsense I don't have time for and I think many ladies feel the same.
For all we know we can be texting back and forth with a 16 year old. Its like pulling teeth trying to get the pertinent information out of most clients who text.
Texts are generally discreet (usually. Nothing like a text at 2a from a non-client requesting an appointment waking up and annoying my boyfriend who is all "who is that?") and I understand why many clients wish that most providers accommodated this capability but seriously...you can't imagine what its like receiving text messages from the general public. Next time you sell an electronic device or a sporting good on Craigslist put your phone number up and request text messages. Then you'll have your answer for why most providers do not entertain this yet.
Email is GREAT. Email me all day long. My phone is glued to my hand, my tablet is in my purse.
Email, email, email all day long.
Many providers you find on BP or in yahoo groups are what I call "last-minute" girls. As natashlynn mentioned, these girls screen by how you sound on the phone. LE sounds different than a legit client, get it? These girls rely on gut instinct to make a quick decision about you and they can't use their gut instinct with short SMS text messages. They probably don't have computers or smart phones to do email either and if they do have a smart phone, reading and replying to emails is a pain in the ass.
Every one of these girls I saw in my early days screened me by how I sounded and the questions I asked or didn't ask. Ask the wrong question and you'll get hung up on. I found that out the hard way as a newbie. You need a hobby phone if you're going to continue seeing these "quickie" girls. It's a lot easier finding a good hiding place for the hobby phone than trying to cover up phone calls or text messages. You're asking for big trouble down the road if the wifey ever gets suspicious. Any attorney will track down those text messages in no time at all. Take our advice and get a cheap hobby phone and pay for it in cash and put minutes on it with cash. Leave absolutely no paper or electronic trail.
You say due to performance, you can only book ladies who offer 30 minute sessions. Why cant you book higher end ladies for an hour? You can always leave after 30 minutes. You reviewed 6 ladies just this month so it doesnt seem like money is a be all and end all factor for you. And the last 3 reviews you have given included a "2", a "4" & a "5" so it doesnt seem like you are getting value either. Why not take a step up in quality, which will solve your communication issue as well, and maybe you might hobby a little less but enjoy it more with much better looking women who perform much better as well while cutting your risk with your S.O.? Just a thought.
I dont go for the high end ladies for two major reasons:
1. I cant afford $300 to see one single provider at the rate I like to hobby (key phrase right there). I like to see at least one a week (get me out of the house and away from the stressful job), and that would be $1,200 monthly for the high-end compared to $400 for BP.
2. I get performance anxiety with the stunning model-quality providers, to the point where I cant even climax sometimes. Im a very average guy that grew up in the Amish country of Ohio. I dont feel like I even deserve to see some of these beautiful women. Very self conscious I suppose, but I cant enjoy myself with these models and it ends up being a wasted $300.
And I said "higher" end, not "high" end. Arent there girls in the Cleveland area for $200 or so that arent sipr hot so they are intimidating to you yet still will use the communication method you prefer? If not ya gotta give up something brutha. Happy hunting!
Yes I have had a streak of duds lately, but Ive also been with some extraordinary women whose experiences I will NEVER forget, and they've all been Akron BP ladies who accept texts and book half hours (Heaven forbid, lol.)
Like the half hour sessions also. I just started using them last year. Major savings. Nice to have fun before going to work.
PC's, laptops, and iPads are bulky, heavy, and don't last long in a briefly unattended Motel-6 suite. And even a cell phone "text" requires the bare minimum of functional literacy.
The reason I ask is because like myself, I know that the majority of my provider friends do not make phone calls until the first date/after.
I rarely ever am on the phone with anyone period. Texting, emails, and in person is this generation as we are all such fast paced people.
I'd love to lolli-gag if I had the time and will sometimes make an exception and actually pick up a phone.
So, my suggestion would be to offer a few options:
Google Voice, a new provider who uses her fingers, or my friends and I will be happy to entertain ya!
Have a beautiful day!!
Envy Jolie
response. LOL
It's a storm out there. Let's all keep our hats hugged on tight!
Get a hobby phone & hide it at work or somewhere away from her reach
Disable your online account with your mobile carrier so she can't log in to see who you call. Paperless bilking is an option.
BTW she CAN see who you text too.
I hate texting because I don't know who you are. Also if it's time sensitive & I've never met you the chances of you getting in same day is almost impossible because of the time sensitivity issue.
...80-100 bucks is your sign.
Can't really expect them to afford it at those rates.
PC and Internet isn't cheap.
Jus sayin...
Only lower level providers dont accept text or emails? I wont schedule from a text or an email, I need to hear you voice before we go any further. It's also very unprofessional to conduct business through a text message. If you cant even give me the consideration of a decent phone call we have nothing to talk about.
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$100 doesn't buy jack shit these days. I can only imagine how worn out they are after having to see 4 times as many clients per day to barely scrape by and their pimp probably needs a new tattoo. Sad, sad, sad.
speaking with his Bottom Biatch.
OR, texting with LE cuz shit like that won't last long nowadays...it's coming to an end!!
If it's just email/text, I have no idea who I am talking to on the other side. Plus, it leaves a very distinct paper trail that says, "Hi, I am writing to you at an address or phone number which shows up as sex for money on Google."
Phone calls actually don't leave a paper trail, because you don't have any evidence of what you talked about. A text message or email shows EXACTLY what you talked about. It's the same thing in finance. If we want to talk about something a little more gray, we will pick up the phone instead of putting it in email or chat. If we need a little bit more on the trade and that means that the guy might get courtside Knicks tickets, I'm sure as fuck not putting that in an email. I'll make a phone call instead.
Get a fucking burn phone, dude.
This is the same reason why providers prefer phone calls, too.
never had a problem with email. I think text is due to people flooding them with messages. Many providers and agencies allow you to text once they know you and know you are not going to abuse the privilege.
Ladies, please chime in.
....I need phone call for re-confirmation (we can have long talks in person). Easier to screen by email/text actually not so easy just from a phone call..... phone calls to do screening are a lot more time-consuming. Text/email saves time. I regret NOTHING about going to only text/email. Should've done it from the beginning.
I dont require textng, because if LE were to track, they could go back to emails and text. Yes, it's understandable about S.O, but for the providers safety, texting and email is more of a paper trail, IMO.
I can't speak for everyone, but when I have a potential client that will not speak to me on the phone, I begin to think something is fishy. Email is fine for first contact, but if you are trying to set up an appointment, I am going to want to talk to you over the phone at some point. Plus, most of us use that kind of information to run checks through various places to find out if you have caused trouble in the past, etc.
Since you are trying to keep things on the dl make sure you are up front about that in the email and I'm sure the two of you can work something out.
I agree with the others that pointed out the "fly by night" type girls seem to only want you to stick to phone calls...most of those girls don't have email or even websites, which should be a red flag imo.
Finally, as for texts. I personally hate texts from somebody that I have never seen before. The majority of the time it seems like the guys that text just want to waste time. If you do your homework & check reviews and ask around you have a much better chance of finding somebody professional who will protect your privacy. Keep in mind it's for your safety as well as ours.
I know you said it's hard for you to have a second phone...but you really should try and figure out a way to work that out somehow.
Good luck! Hope this explanation helps a little bit...
xoxoxo-Gabby
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