I've read War and Peace, The Complete works of Shakespeare...and this post.

let me say this. What she does with it once she has it is her business and no, I don't need to have it back, lol. So Spit or Swallow is nbd. But the reason CIM is looked upon favorably is this. I don't treat a woman's menu like a buffet. If something is going well, I like to stick with it. So if I am getting a great BJ, I don't want to stop it...I want to see how it all works out.

Stopping her mid slurp, although courteous with someone who doesn't do that, does somewhat diminish the experience. Even if only a little bit.

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Asking yourself the questions and answering them at the same time..

Men do it because it feels good to drop your load somewhere else other than condom... Get it?

they either have to stop altogether and move the cock to a body part for release, or just jack it off. Neither of those things appeals to me. Swallowing I couldn't care less about because it does not feel any better once it has left her mouth anyway. guys are known for rating women higher who do high risk activities. i have never done the privates to privates massage thing nor would I rate a gal higher who did it. I would probably rate her lower for doing that service infact

is why everyone is so damn judgmental about particular acts they don't value but others like?  I really am not flaming here, but putting this post in the context of so many others that fail to understand why certain acts turn some of us on but not others?  Who cares?  Some have a deep need for DFK, others don't.  Some love DATY or DATO and others don't.  Then they speculate or judge re why others value the acts they don't care for.
Everybody needs to stop judging and/or wondering about why some like certain acts and others don't.  IMO, the  only acts that should be judged are those that are harmful to others, especially minors, or are non-consensual.
As for everything else, just do your own thing and STFU.

Why do some like to be spanked?  Why are some people gay?  Why are some bi?  Why do some like Greek?  Sometimes you can explain why you like something....maybe sometimes you can't.  It doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned.  I'm never going to convince a gay person to not be gay so it's kind of a moot discussion.  I'm not a Greek guy....some are.  But no guy who loves Greek owes me any sort of an explanation as to why he does.

Wow!  Sensitive much?  Your seriously need to chill.  And do you really think you know that much about me?  Hint:  you don't.  Unless you've met me at a M&G you have no idea how old I am or how much time I spend doing anything.  Do you really believe people on this board post accurate information about themselves?  If so, grow up.  Do you really think anyone believes what you say about yourself?  No one with an ounce of sense does.  A cock as "big as a baby's arm?"  Bwaaahahaha!
 And then you go on to speculate about what I read, what music I listen to, etc.  You obviously have no clue about how foolish you look.
As for my posting on this site, if you'd bothered to actually check you'd see I don't post that much at all, so go after someone on the Top Ten with your idiotic comments.
In fact, I question your reading comprehension if you actually believe it's intolerant in any way.  In fact, it's a call for more tolerance and less judgementalness.  Others seem to get that but you're too dense.
PS: my STFU statement wasn't even aimed at you personally, so calm down.
PPS:  you posted your lame response to me under somebody else's comment.
PPPS: if you really are this hyper-sensitive, perhaps you are not cut out for this board.

His wanting to understand why hobbyists find this so important that there is a good deal of disappointment when it's not done. I didn't see that he was criticizing the guys for wanting it. He also gave his opinion like so many on here do when CIM is disallowed.

I see judgement from hobbyists projected onto the ladies that don't offer CIM or who only offer CBJ.  I do agree with you when you said " Everybody needs to stop judging and/or wondering about why some like certain acts and others don't."

but in general about people who are judgmental.  But since I respect you both as posters, consider it withdrawn.  For the record, I love when a girl let's me CIM but it rarely happens.

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Guess he missed the recent posts on BDSM that mnjohnny and I babbled back and forth on.

Maybe I shouldn't be doing that with a gal...it's pretty degrading you know  

Or maybe I should..it's fun?

Or maybe..or maybe..or maybe....yikes...just do what you like bluemangroup...it's your dime  

Posted By: clarence37

Posted By: inicky46

is why everyone is so damn judgmental about particular acts they don't value but others like?  I really am not flaming here, ...............
As for everything else, just do your own thing and STFU.

So you say.... I really don't want to flame you or anything, but shut the fuck up. Right?


Hey, if the OP deserves to be flamed, then flame him and don't apologize. When the OP says Oh, Gee, I don't want to be judgmental or anything, and to each his own, golly gee -
and then produces five or six boring paragraphs about how you are wrong to desire CIM and how everybody is crazy obsessed over it, golly gee, not that there's anything wrong with that...

I like to cum in a woman's mouth. I like it when she cums in my mouth. I have neither the desire nor the inclination to explain or justify it to anyone. The OP generously allows for the possibility that maybe some people go in for "weird" stuff, but wouldn't it be a better world if everybody just enjoyed the stuff that he enjoys?

C'mon, admit it.

In fact, I wasn't so much criticizing the OP so much as expressing frustration with the lack of understanding around here for the preferences of others.  It just goes on and on, and I've lost patience with it.

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many times the provider is the one who does not want the guy to go in the condom, because they feel it is too risky getting pregnant if it happens to break. not always on the hobbyist. many well know providers have been vocal about this on the boards so it is nothing new. guys who demand bbbj will always put down or grade lower for cbj. even ter grades higher for bbbj and anal but cim is no extra point.

If I'm getting a BBBJ I sure want it to continue to completion, without missing a stroke.  Spitting doesn't bother me at all,  However I cant see interupting intercourse just to unload in her mouth.

Why are you bashing nick but talking to sethric?

his slam on me for spending my life on this board.  As you and most other intelligent board members know, I was entirely off this board for months before coming back a few weeks ago.  But I guess he just wants to whine and make blatantly false claims because his tiny feelings got hurted.  I guess he doesn't know how to use the "search" function either. lol!

But then realized I didn't give a shit.

After that I saw that it was addressed to Nick. I swear this board should come with that Casper the friendly Ghost bouncing ball sometimes. I can't follow shit without it.

.. but for some of us who grew up before the BJ became mainstream - and yes, at least where I was raised it was a taboo - both the BJ itself and CIM are massively erotic.   That a woman will take my cum into her mouth (much less swallow it) drives me insane at orgasm.  When I feel myself starting to peak I always let the woman (provider, wife or civvie) know (not that I could hide it anyway) and when I feel her continue and usually can feel her added determination to finish me I go off the edge in one shattering O.  True, it is barely diminished if she transitions to an 'airburst' at the last second but it certainly isn't as erotic a memory.  

Years ago I had a low end provider change what would have been a very forgettable encounter into something memorable by making me CIM then coming off me, looking up and opening her mouth so I could see my cum alll over her tongue, then very slowly closing her mouth and eyes and swallow it all with a look of passion on her face, and then opening her mouth for me to see that it had gone down her throat.   I was almost immediately ready for round two!

I've had a couple providers that would CIM then discretely spit it out tell me that they swallow with their civvie partner(s) but spit with clients.  Never quite understood that as once it is in her mouth, whats the difference?  Maybe that is just a last level of intimacy she keeps private? But that is her option and a small concession to make for the ultimate pleasure of BBBJCIM.  

PS: And the ULTIMATE has been the women that loved giving head so much that THEY would cum giving a bj and a blessed handfull that orgasmed from feeling me spurt into their mouth.  Thank God times changed.

You've been MIA for more than half the year, and you get accused of living on the board. lol.

And I don't know why he got his panties in a bunch anyway. The post he was TRYING to respond to wasn't even a slam on him directly. I took it as a general comment about these types of posts that say "I don't like this, and I don't understand why others do, so you shouldn't do it!"

But just reading the subject line had me rofl already. Directly under sethric's post, "INicky, I will...!"

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Perhaps a little rodent?  Or not so little  

Hey...Jeanvaljean changed his name to escape from the law...why not nick?

BTW...Glad you set China straight  LOL

The character "inicky" was definitely missing, just as the character "ccpa" was missing for a while. Not saying that the actors who play the roles were missing!

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I really was completely missing as a poster during almost all of that time.  My re-appearances in other guises were brief, with very few posts.  It is a game CPA is much better at than I was.  We've all learned and moved on.

Your re-appearances were similar to those summer specials that never really take hold  

I OTOH never left the building.  But it was getting expensive feeding all the cast members.  

OP states... "For example, if I'm having sex with an escort, and nearing orgasm, it doesn't occur to me to hop onto my knees, rip off the condom like a pornstar, and then ejaculate into her mouth."

Personally I prefer traditional sex over anything else so I've got to agree with this to some extent and expand on it.  If I'm getting ready to orgasm inside of her, I get no additional rise from pulling out, pulling off the cover and jerking off on her or in her mouth or anywhere.  I can jerk off by myself, so it would make sense to me to do things with her that I can't do on my own, plus it seems to be a lot more work and potentially distracting.  With that said, for some guys I'm guessing that doing the jerk off thing is far more erotic than traditional sex, so they do it.

Some dudes are into feet and getting a dildo up their ass too.  I don't get that, but that doesn't mean it's not their dream date.  Bottom line I'm thrilled that there are scores of women out there that are willing to meet all my fantasies, and if they do a few things I don't get, then good for them and good for the guys that love it.

Advice to the OP...Focus on what you like, not what other guys like and you won't be stuck posting a tome on sexual acts that you just don't get.

Or anal?
Or BDSM?
Or pick anything else you like....the OP was bloviating on his personal assessment of CIM...nothing more.

Shit...some of the crap I've done with gals makes CIM look like "reading a book".  But others see CIM as more intimate...so be it.

It simply amazes me how narrow minded and vanilla so many people are.  But here...I find that to be especially enlightening.

Some gals will tell a john that DFK is too intimate.  But me thinks it has more to do with hygiene  

I am just telling the OP why I think so many guys love it.  

We pay for something we cannot otherwise easily get.  For some, that's a blowjob.  For others, that's anal.  For others, that's DFK.  We are all different.

Didn't really have that as an issue with gals (civvie) that I dated BTW.

Maybe it was my cologne?

I agree with perfectstorm.30 years ago would have been different.

I can't otherwise get any of it easly LOL EOM

And a reason I have read is that the guy feels the woman accepts him by allowing that more so than not.

You'll get those that feel that there are more intimate acts...another case of judging on ones own personal likes or opinions.

Let individuals hobby and provide whatever way they feel comfortable and only see those that fully accept what they have to offer/want.

They will pull out of FS, take off the condom, to come on her chest/face/ass/belly etc.

I have never really given it that much thought but I will say a couple of things.

The act of getting up and spitting  it out  is the disgusting part of it for me. I don't need the chick to swallow but there are sexier ways to have CIM without the provider leaving the room or even less appealing leaning over the bed and spitting it on the floor. Howz about CIM and letting it run back out onto her chin and breast. Now that is a turn on. She is going to get up and leave the room anyway, why not wash off in the bathroom as you are getting the towel to clean him up.
Secondly your comment about pulling out and ripping off the condom got me thinking about the risk the provider takes with getting pregnant,  and how prevalent is it. If she were to get knocked up is the responsibility  all hers? These days you never know, if she decided to try to get support somehow do you/ I as a hobbyist fight legally which could destroy a family and expose the hobbyist or do you confirm its yours and just pay something to the girl off somehow??

Enough of my rambling

capitalize it. shout it. you were right the first time!

Agreed as well as swallowing should reserved for  the SO same as FS should never be offered by a provider or I guess I should say I wont see one

sort of indicates that said mouth contents are unpleasant. I mean, most of us spit out something that is not nice. Putting myself in a guys shoes, it would be a little unsettling.

and CIM to completion is the icing on the cake.

is the disgusting part for you? OK. You've obviously never had a guy shoot your mouth. Yeah, yeah...I know. Lots of women LOVE swallowing semen. Fabulous. And, yes...how rude to spit it out front of you.

As far as a provider getting pregnant? You should be uber-careful. If she does get "knocked-up" you will share responsibility. It would be *your child*, no? Your biological heritage? You could try to fight it, but DNA testing is a bitch.

Just pay her off to go away? What an honorable suggestion. Possible. Ah..quite a complicated ethical dilemma.

Luckily, professional women are well versed in saving you from yourself.

Love how soeone will post that their comments are not meant as a criticism and then, lo and behold words like 'dehumanize, slave, bully' on and on and on are tossed out like m/m's to a toddler. I'm with the guy who told you to STFU. NOW. Thankyou.

there are a fair amount of women who are totally turned on by cum. Now, I have not done a formal survey and can't say what percentage that is. But my personal experience is that a significant percentage like playing with it, rubbing it on themselves and swallowing it.  You're not that way, which is fine.  But why assume everyone's like you?  And is your opinion based on personal experience or have you asked other women? I have one gal who's a strong submissive.  Last time I saw her she wanted me to come into a cup, pour some of it on her tits and the rest of it into her mouth.  She didn't spit it out, either.  And it was her idea, not mine.  And that was my entire point to the OP: everyone's different.  Don't assume and don't judge.

LOL very true I have not had a guy shoot in my mouth i don't play for that team. As far as women that Love to  swallow i have only had one that loved to do it, I'm sure many will say that is not true but she did. What I wuz trying to say is if you are not going to swallow, make the act sexier by letting it role back out onto your boobs.

You have a great point about sharing the responsibility, i did not say that i wouldn't just left that out of the options feeling my reply was long enough. I should have included it though, you are correct and a situation I hope none of us here every finds ourselves in.

(not sure why you feel the need to lead with that diminutive language).... I am completely aware that many women enjoy swallowing...or rubbing it on themselves..or...whatever.....I have no issue with that at all. Did I say anything to the contrary? Did I make any  "judgments" about anyone else?

Where did I say that? Show me.

Do I "know" for a fact, that it can be nasty? Yes, I do. So, when I see some guy claiming that what "he sees" as disgusting, is a woman spitting...well....you do know there is another perspective, right?

And, did you completely miss the other, much more important part of my commentary? From MR...should I pay-off a prostitute I get pregnant?

I am dying with laughter. I guess it does take a village. I don't know if I would even be able to perform if that were asked of me. 3 cheers to you for being able to succeed...

Any girl in this biz who counted on condom as only form of birth control is a moron and not welcome
in my bed.

You have a problem with what other hobbyists wear on their date?
Maybe you should not only STFU, but MYOB!

who are on the pill still don't want the added risk of an std or getting knocked up.

Hell, that was only the beginning.  She's a lil' freak.  I'd never done any oft he stuff she wanted me to do to her before.  She really did stretch my boundaries.

diminutive means "extremely small."  If you really meant "condescending," then you're right.  And it was intentional.  I used such language because the entire first part of your post was snide as hell, the definition of condescending.  And it said nothing to convey that you're actually "aware that many women enjoy swallowing.  You really need to re-read your first post and, yes, you did sound judgemental.  
As for my not responding to the rest of your post, since when does anyone have to respond to every part of someone's post?  Where are we?  In law school?  Give it a rest.  Now that saturnsky has decided to be less negative (and in return I've been quite pleasant to her, which will continue), you are the most relentlessly negative, snide and argumentative "female" on this board.  So chops to you, "dear."

you say cim is degrading, but you don't think paying a hooker to fuck you is also viewed as degrading to people who would never pay a prostitute? do you care what others think about what you do sexually? then don't worry about anyone else it's none of your business. your logic is flawed and so is your position. maybe if you had a dog, you would not be such a jackass.

So I looked at this nimrod's last review.  He admits to seeing an AMP girl who "looked kind of old," and then babbled about suffering "marital guilt."  Dude needs a shrink.  But mainly needs to STFU.  Ooops?  Did I say that again?

( sleep number or tempur pedic?) they were just borrowing it.

Being an escort I find CIM gross, for me. I don't find the guys that want it gross, nor the women who allow or enjoy it gross.

I guess if I said that the guys who want it are gross, I would be judging them. On the other hand, what about guys who might say that all escorts should offer CIM or leave the biz or that they are bad escorts? A judgement or simply their opinion?

I guess there is a fine line between a judgement and an opinion.  From what I have just read, a judgement is more of a negative inference and an opinion is more based on a thought or experience.

The last few days we have had a few posts that have been somewhat judgmental and that brings out the " let people do what they feel comfortable with" and leave the rest alone for their personal choices, which I personally agree with. There is someone out there for every one, and no need to batter down people for their choices.

I totally agree, no mess and feels so go. My question would be does anyone every have any cautions about the "health" of a provider that is always swallowing cum?

I agree with the distinction you make between the two words.  As for the tone of the board, I don't think it's changed much.  Some people are, and always will be, judgemental.  Others like to flame, etc., etc.  My original response was precisely to point out to the OP that I felt he was being judgemental.  It seems he can't take the heat.  My post to hotplants was, except for my use of "dear" (which I admit is supercilious, and intentionally so) was rather mild and fact-based, whereas her tone was totally snide and judgemental.  She either doesn't get that or just can't own up to it.  I hope you're not suggesting it's not right to judge judgemental people?  I don't respond that way to people whose well-stated, non-flaming opinion I disagree with.  Live and let live, sez I.

probably due to the fact that covers can be worn for most sex options. Although CIM does seem to be more of a risk to providers for hygiene purposes.

Loser? Ya, you're quite the winner living on this board and in your mama's basement. Butthole.

find another hobby for 2013!

Two main reasons: (1) It feels so damn good and (2) The high degree of intimatcy & sensuality shown by the lady, particularity if she swallows.