if a hobbyist happens to do screening and scheduling for a few ladies - in exchange for "time" only -
would you consider it to be a conflict of interest if he either had existing reviews of the ladies and / or reviewed the ladies after entering into this arrangement?
Take into account that said hobbyist would be careful not to "shill" for the ladies...
Note - since only "time" is being exchanged for this service, the hobbyist has no real stake in the income of the ladies in question - there is no fee or profit sharing.
Thoughts from both hobbyists and providers will be appreciated.
I would definitely consider it to be so on all accounts.
Just my .02
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I think it would be a conflict because he's acting as an assistant. If he wasn't writing great reviews for her, why would the provider want to keep him as her assistant?
Party on, bro.
And I am sure most hobbyist wouldn't want YOU, another hobbyist, to have all their information.
But, then again, the whole hobby is a risk.
he wasn't shilling, how would anyone else know that he wasn't? Take his word for it?
from my POV it would also be rather indiscreet.
yet _another_ person i would be sharing my personal info. furthermore that person, being a hobbyist, could well have his own interests paramount in using that screening information and giving access to the lady's schedule.
the profit for you comes in making more of the ladies time available for you when you want it.
your alias _is_ well chosen BTW.
if he chose? And also does not review any lady in said arrangement?
How would this make him any different from the operator of an agency? Would you consider the operator of an agency to be a "pimp"?
Or are hobbyists and providers simply against the idea of a MAN being the concierge or assistant to a provider?
Or more specifically against the idea of a HOBBYIST being a concierge or assistant to a provdier?
Thanks for the responses
i mean writing those reviews and already having performed shill service is likely how you got into this position of trust, right?
you clearly have no idea of boundaries and want to play on both sides of the fence. the service provider is different from the hobbyist and no one should be trusted who wants to play on both sides of that divide.
furthermore i think i know who you are. i have linked to your review history and promise you that i will never book with any lady on it.
Or even watch the news lately?
C'mon, you're kidding....right?
this can work well for the hobbyists or the providers that he would purport to help..
it completely corrupts the checks and balances of the review system by blurring the boundary between provider and hobbyist. there is a good reason why independent providers and agencies are on one side and hobbyists are on another.
it KEEPS IT REAL.
this individual seems to want to play on both sides, to dominate the hobby from both sides.
I only asked because I was on the fence about getting into it or how to do it in a fair way. I thought Id get answers to that question and did not expect to hear that it was just plain wrong to do.
I was attracted to the idea but felt a little uncomfortable with it. Thats why I asked. I will stay clear of the situation.
If I had made up my mind to do it or was sure I was going to do it I wound not have brought it up on the board so thanks again for the responses.
about you having their information. Also your doing any reviews of the ladies after would be grounds for you to be blacklisted from TER I would think.
I see you used an alias to ask this question...You say since time is only being exchanged makes me think your the wrong person to do their screening...Isn't time what you pay for with us ladies.
Kisses Haley
Even though you are surely acting in good faith, you really can't be reviewing this lady. The appearance of conflict, no matter how faithful you try to be, is just too great.
he's not just pimping he is in effect setting up an agency and expecting to write reviews. how corrupt is that?
You must admire his creativity and boldness.
If it works, it works. Is everyone happy with the arrangement? That's all that matters.
it isn't about ethics it is about keeping boundaries in business so that the business works.
now i could be quite wrong but i believe that i recognize the OP.
if i am correct then there is a history of being indiscreet with information. in addition there is a history of inserting himself adversely into relations between other clients and providers of his acquaintance by using information gleaned from PMs to create trouble and augment misunderstandings.
so even if he isn't the guy i think he is, his review list is already serving as my DNS list as far as booking future first appointments is concerned.
believe me you don't want a narcissistic and megalomaniacal hobbyist setting up a de facto agency. the thought of my personal information in such hands is _extremely_ infuriating.
i also don't review every lady i see so i am not outing anyone _that_ way. don't try to draw any conclusions from my review history here.
it simply is not possible on a number of levels.
Would you want another hobbyist to have your information?? Just wondering by chance. You would be comfortable with that?
I simply stated that he would be a pimp. That isn't ethics last I checked.
Some men can get lots of "time" with some ladies -- lots and lots of time -- and be completely unaffected. Kind of like a psychopath.
If you are a psychopath, it probably wouldn't be a conflict of interest. Odds that you fit that category are between 4-5%.
If you aren't a psychopath -- then, hell yeah -- it's a conflict of interest. Duh! It would call any reviews you did for any other provider, plus them, into question big time.
basically you are getting a freebie so NO you do not count as a client.
If you reviewed her b4 you statred this part of your connection to her those reviews are valid I think but now to write a review on her NO.
You are basically her pimp now and a review from you would be very biased. Not valid in the end.
My clients honor me by telling me about themselves. It is a PRIVATE matter between us. Their details are sacred to me... to be sharing the info with a 3rd party .. I think that is putting a fellow at risk. I take responsibility for all info I receive. I take my safety seriously as well as my friends and potential friends. Handing their private info to a 3rd party is a GREAT breach of our contract.
I've had men say they could screen for me (!!?) I openly laugh in their faces.