as long as the date was enjoyable for both parties.
Sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination.Curious how others would honestly assess their batting average when it comes to how often the provider they are with reaches orgasm at least once during the session.
Yes I know it is quite possible for guys to misjudge female orgasms, so these numbers are obviously subjective.
If any providers want to chime in from the other side, feel free!
According to every review here, they all have multiple orgasms and drip on the floor whenever their client gets naked
1/2 make me want to think that they are having an orgasm, and the other half don't care one way or the other as long as I make them think I'm having one.
of the week. Kudos Fish.
Some guys go deep, some have warning track power and some guys are slap hitters....So, I dunno where I stand, consider me a DH....old but still around.
I'm more of a utility infielder.
I'm useful on her infield 
LMAO!! Who can forget the immortal "Mendoza line!!" (WAYYYY back when they used to list all the MLB player averages in a long column via the Sunday sports section Mario Mendoza was ALWAYS right at .200--ahhhh the days of youth!!)
Some guys are Fred Gwynne and some are Joe E. Ross.
Some guys go deep, some have warning track power and some guys are slap hitters....So, I dunno where I stand, consider me a DH....old but still around.
I'd be getting laid for free.
... and I haven't been laid for free since.... well I'm sure it must have happened at least once... maybe.
Life is good
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.. multiple, according to them. My guess is closer to zero.
as long as the date was enjoyable for both parties.
Sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination.
I believe 6 had genuine orgasms. Once from a long DATY and guided manipulation by me and the other times delivered by the other lady in the 3some I was enjoying that day.
I wouldn't survive a month on the farm team with that average. Fortunately, P4P doesn't work that way.
I try to make them cum every time. Do I? Doubt it, but I believe a solid 10% have cum from my efforts. I’d venture to guess that another 25% enjoy what I’m doing. The remaining 65% are just going through the motions and acting. Do I wish they all O with me? Sure. Do I much care? Nah, not really. Why? Because I’m paying them, and Ben Franklin is better at getting them off than I am.
...are you saying i should even consider that the woman im with might want/or have an orgasm as well!!!!!...wow!!! game changer...my bad gals 
That is, with my ATF. I've seen her at least 30 times per year for several years now and she has an O about 90% of the time.
Now with providers that I don't know so well, who knows, but I'm grateful to the ones that care enough to fake it.
Whether she had an orgasm is equivalent of where the ball went. Ie, I don't really care.
If I hit a homerun, I'd like to think a fan of the team I'm on caught it, but if it just rolled away into no man's land after it hit that center field camera spot that's cool too.
And if I hit a double, it doesn't matter if it was a ground rule double that was hit with power or more of a line drive hugging the foul line that third baseman just missed because he was playing off the line.
I find that frequently that makes it real. As one of my favorites said.. that's cheating... there was an Adam & Eve store down the street from the hotel. We would go & pick out a new toy.. then we would go back to.the hotel.. drink some wine , she would enjoy herself before I enjoyed her..
Yes, many providers are somewhat desensitized from working so much, especially as they start to get older, so vibrating toys (If they will allow it) are a sure-fire way to make sure an O is real. Some go days without on O other than those that are self-induced (usually also with toys) but they are masters at fakery for the sake of the customers' egos.
I was living with a provider that used to come home from the incall at night and tell me she needed to come because she just had four hours of foreplay with customers, but then when the reviews came out, each customer claimed to have made her cum. THAT'S how good they are.
I’m sure you already know this. But for those who read your comment above I think it is important to point out that, in my experience, one of the most common reasons a provider fakes an O is less for ego and more for atmosphere.
In other words, more than a few providers I know have told me some variation of ‘because it’s hot” was the primary reason they fake that O or even just plain highly vocal enthusiasm.
They have learned very well that most men get much more excited and into it with them if they act like they are coming when their customer seems to be getting close to it himself. In a way, as I understand it, that fake is a combination of session management and an expression of their desire to promote customer satisfaction.
So, yes, one of the reasons is to boost the customer’s ego. This is one of the session priorities from the get go. But I think it is important to remember that there is usually more to it than just the desire to provide an ego boost.
And, of course, it is also important to remember the rule that all generalizations are false (including that one). Every provider, customer and provider/customer interaction is at least a little (no intention of making a reference to size here) different or unique.
Nope. I can assure you a vibrator has never got me off one SINGLE time. Believe me I have tried repeatedly. Another toy has, but as I have now owned 2 and they both died quickly (retailing 150 and 250 per toy), I will not recommend them. I can however squirt, and I can have gspot orgasms almost instantly after penetration and in fact occasionally continuously.
Had to let you know there are apparently exceptions to your theory. 😀
Thanks for appreciating women enough to develop theories, tho. Genuine. Not sarcasm. 😀 there are exceptions to every rule. Especially when it comes to intimacy. Even I don't know everything. 😉
It's based on practical application with over two thousand women, but I'm open to the idea that there are outliers who do not respond in a normal fashion, just as I'm sure there are people somewhere who don't like ice cream or pizza. Lol
However, there is equipment available, when in the hands of a competent operator, that CAN make any woman cum regardless of their past difficulties, UNLESS, of course, the failure is due to psychological issues, in which case there is no remedy without psychiatric intervention. If it's purely a physical issue, it can be overcome with the right equipment and right approach.
If you know what to look and feel for, you can tell when a girl is really cumming. This is not a brag post, but most of the women I have been with all cum. Not because I have some magic skill, I just last a very long time. Going back to college I could have sex for well over an hour without cumming. The longer you're having sex the easier it is for the woman to come. These days I have to book two hour meetings and most ladies come at least once if not more. I can tell when it's real or fake. Most notably you can feel their pussy tighten very hard around your penis. You can also see changes on their nipples. The breathing thing can be faked. So can noise. Since I don't cum until around 1.5 hours into the meeting it's fun to get them to cum a few times. They're also more relaxed and way more GFE.
Also.. a flushed chest
If you know what to look and feel for, you can tell when a girl is really cumming. This is not a brag post, but most of the women I have been with all cum. Not because I have some magic skill, I just last a very long time. Going back to college I could have sex for well over an hour without cumming. The longer you're having sex the easier it is for the woman to come. These days I have to book two hour meetings and most ladies come at least once if not more. I can tell when it's real or fake. Most notably you can feel their pussy tighten very hard around your penis. You can also see changes on their nipples. The breathing thing can be faked. So can noise. Since I don't cum until around 1.5 hours into the meeting it's fun to get them to cum a few times. They're also more relaxed and way more GFE.
kegels though daily pelvic floor exercises so that they can tighten their pussy to simulate cumming on demand. I have seen a few that could tighten up so hard that they literally push your dick out as they claim they are cumming. These women know their business, and they know that if they provide a convincing fake O using superior kegel control, it will massage your ego and make you come back for more sessions. Nipples can change on arousal (which is also a good thing) during direct stimulation or during DATY. The nerve pathways from nipples go to the same part of the brain as the nerve pathways from clit stimulation. I'm not saying you are wrong, because what you describe CAN be markers of a real O for some providers, but kegel strength and nipple changes are far from foolproof in heralding an O. It will be as you say for some, but when it comes to professionals, it will just as often be just an elevated fake that even those of us with massive experience will not be able to detect without considering other factors. I have found that your observations more often apply to civvie women, but professionals are different.
Faked an orgasm and I really don't have to. I cum very easily and I'm multi orgasmic and cum in different ways (nipple stimulation, clit, vaginal, gspot, rimming) so I always have a good time. On the rare occasions I don't even cum once with a gentleman, it's because they didn't stimulate me at all lol.
she'd give you a rebate. At least that is what I was told as a green merchant seaman on my first ship. In the 45 years since then, I've never gotten a rebate. But I did get a couple discounts and a few special services without up-charge both overseas and here in the states. I will not claim to be able to tell if there were any that faked it, but I'm sure that has happened without me knowing. If she would have an obviously fake "O", I would usually ask to refrain, perhaps even reminding her who was paying for pleasure.
I've also been volunteered instructions on how to please as well as ask for same. I was generally a two-stroker when younger, so I was eager to learn better foreplay techniques and tips to last longer. I had one regular (Dah) in Kaoshiung who spent an entire afternoon with me until I got it right. Dah was a very patient instructor and spoke well; I was young and good for two or three pops an hour. After several hours she sure seemed to get off and afterwards walked bow-legged.
When we got back to the bar where Dah worked, the other girls mocked her bow-legged stance in jest. It was Chinese New Year and the bar closed early for a private party. The owner liked me and, at Dah's request, I was allowed to stay. I was the only American at a party with two men and about 12 women. The food and drinks were endless, some great, some very odd but interesting. I tried to follow their customs but remained silent during ceremonies. I enjoyed the immersion in a different culture on their turf. After some time we moved on to other parties, watched street festivities, and eventually ended up in a nice house where most of the women resided. That was one of the better days of my life.
I honestly do not know my batting average. I do know I still like learning. It seems the best we can do is communicate. If both partners learn the other's desires it's as good as it gets.
If someone really enjoys his or her job, should they give their clients a rebate? Doesn’t happen.
But I think when someone enjoys his or her job, it’ll be reflected in the service they give to their clients. And I think that’s true with providers. I seek out and repeat with those who genuinely enjoy what they do (and I’m not just talking about enjoying sex). For my part, I do what I can to help providers have a good time. They may not always come, but I’d rather they be honest in their responses vs faking it.
that was new in town. One of the first guys who saw her put in his review that at the end of the session, she gave him back part of the donation, thanking him for making her cum so strongly with his DATY. Over the ensuing month, a few more posted this, that they, too, got a partial return of the donation because they made her come with DATY.
In all modesty, I've been told by ladies that I'm no slouch when it comes to DATY either, so I thought this situation was made for me. I booked with this new girl, and I spent half of the hour getting her a couple of O's with my tongue. Then at the end, I gave her the donation, expecting her to hand me back part of it, but she didn't. I told her I read reviews where she gave back part of the donation for good pussy-licking. She laughed and said she does that with the arrogant ones to turn them into regulars, and they will be easy customers because they will spend most of the session licking her pussy. Then she laughed and said, "You're too smart to fall for that." It took me a little while to decide the compliment was better than getting $50 back. I became a regular for awhile anyway. So discounts for making a lady cum are possible, but it may not be what you think. Lol
half an hour for only two Os? No wonder she didn’t give you a rebate. 😄
But that’s one savvy provider. She seems to be able to get a quick read on people and knows exactly what to say based on the guy’s personality.
she gets off five times in 30 minutes, but since I most often book 2 hours, I can take my time and edge them a little. I never claimed to be fast, only good. Lol
The rebate part is part of ship folklore told on ships worldwide. It is meant to be sarcastic and directed at new sailors. Other folklore of the see include "The golden rivet" and "The mail buoy". The golden rivet is the last rivet hammered and is usually located in the shaft alley. If you bend over to see it, some old sailor will punk you. I've never heard of anyone gullible enough to look, same with the mail buoy. But when I sailed as cadet on the Great Lakes, I was told to get the mail from the mail boat on the Detroit River. I told the Chief that I already knew of that prank and he got irate. So I went out on deck, grabbed a heaving line and a few minutes later I saw a boat with USPS markings heading towards us. I was shocked.
I never got a rebate, nor saw a golden rivet nor stood barrel watch. But there may be some truth behind most folklore. CDL provided a good example with a viable reason for a rebate. I'm just a little too jaded at my age to believe it.