i get emails all the time asking me if i kiss or if i allow daty or if i do bbbj or whatever, a guy on the phoenix board asking for a provider who offers a teabagging service.

does he have a pimply nutsack ?
i have no clue.  

so i wont say yes to ANYTHING unless i already know and your nutsack.

cuz i dont know what strange chemistry is going to happen between my body and an unknown person's body for crying out loud and i wouldnt make any promises, even if it was legal to and IT'S NOT.

normally i dont hear back from the guy, which is fine because i really dont want to meet a guy who bases his decisions on an agenda of acronyms he wants completed.

but it makes me wonder, are there girls who will say yes to these services, without even knowing the guy first ?  

do these girls that say yes actually do what they promised or do they find a way out of it ?

clean and groomed and healthy, it is also a bummer  to be consistently YMMVd because of certain issues that are difficult to communicate about with a previously unmet lady. See my post below on creating hobbyist profiles.....  we need to find a way to stay legal and careful yet to facilitate communication that would remove as much of the YMMV factor, attendant discomfort on the part of the provider and unhappiness on the part of the client as possible. Making the hobby the consistently best experience possible for the hobbyist will also make it a consistently better and likely more profitable endeavour for the provider as well....

of getting what you want from a girl who DOESNT agree beforehand.


in your experience has this been the case ?

i think the reason you dont get what you're promised is because you're asking for something that cant be promised and the only girl who is going to promise something to a guy she doesnt know, doesnt care about keeping her promises anyway.

i realize it's important to you to get that promise... because so many girls have told you, well i never said i would do that.

thats just an excuse sweetie... these same girls dont do anything, never will, no matter what you get them to agree to, after they have your money, they'll come up with an excuse as to why they arent going to do it for you.

but this is largely because i read reviews and never ask for anything specific unless there is a long "get to know" correspondence.

the only time i got something a little less  than what was agreed in advance was last Saturday. it was a strong and effective performance but in terms of the alpahabet soup of acronyms ONLY it left something to be desired.

it was a deeply relaxing experience that was not very sexy and not very fun. but it was only a little less than what i asked for and did the job. still don't know how to review let alone rate it! this may be one of those encounters i keep to myself.

Both of my ATF's are actually UTR and not reviewed on TER yet they are as busy as they want to be and turn down many more men than they see.  You are right, a lot of guys will just stop pursuing the appointment once a lady refuses to promise DATY, Kissing, BBBJ or whatever during initial contact but neither of them really cares.

The idea is to present yourself as a woman that guys will want to see.  This is what worked way back in the dark ages before the internet and reviews when all a lady had was an ad in the back of a local "alternative" newspaper to attract business.

My POV is simple. I find a gal that appeals to me and roll the dice.  If I like what happens I call her again. If I don't I don't.  I think guys have gotten a little too hung up on expecting a guaranteed punch-list of sexual activities.  Reviews are a guideline, not a guarantee...

this is the reason for seeing well reviewed ladies that  have consistent reviews with services(hate that reference) offered that are what a hobbyist is looking for at the time.

I research, then make the appointment. Once I arrive I have an idea what maybe on the menu. I have no preconceived notion as how it will turn out in the end.
It works for me.

i am sure that the most frequently heard excuse a girl gives them for not doing something with them is:  

i never agreed to that
or
you never said thats what you wanted.

but guys need to understand that THAT is not the reason she's not doing whatever it is you wanted.

if the girl doesnt want to do it, she'll always find a reason and the reason will ALWAYS be the guys fault.

the reason is she's a bitch.

she'll say whatever she has to say to get your money and then she'll come up with all the different things you did wrong to prevent her from delivering her service.

and you wont dare post a review because you were the one who messed it up, not her.

dont book an appt with a girl who is telling you everything you want to hear.... cuz she's probably not going to do anything you want after she gets the money.

if the lady's profile says she provides a service, I receive that service when I see her.

Prob is with the younger, newer ladies. They can be very quixotic: eeew: facial hair! eeeew uncut! Inexperience and unprofessionalism. Maybe I should just skip seeing providers without a few years of experience......

I have good reviews so most feel pretty comfortable without asking but for those few who do I just don't see them. I will never put myself in that position.I never even discuss any sex act in e-mail or on the phone. Once something is mentioned the gentlemen is history

I have done a CBJ a few times when my safety was in question. One gentleman who knew he had a problem tried to say he wanted his money back because of my demand.That was after 30 minutes of passion and DATY but I didn't get to look close at his goods till then.

Even with my reviews and profile their are times when things will not work in your favor.

Kisses Haley

I find the unknown factor to be a bit of a turn-on and a part of the fun.

Also consider:  If you are clean and healthy, plus you treat the provider with utmost respect and civility, you raise your chances of success to 99%.

Them's good odds to me.

I struggle with this myself.  One client contacted me after a session to say he was disappointed his session wasn't just like the review he read.  All my sessions are different.  I want to be in the moment and respond to what's happening for my client.  I find it hard to believe my clients want a robotic, repetitive experience from me, and yet when someone mentions they've read my reviews I feel obligated to live up to their expectation, even at the expense of the quality of the session.

I expect GFE.  I select providers who offer GFE.  In my opinion, there is no must do list for GFE.  It's a feeling that you have.  

I do look at reviews & select based of the lady having a menu that will leave me with a BF feeling.  Chemistry & other things can vary.  

I look for a provider with a small range of reviews...  say a 7 with a range of 6-7-8.  Higher is ok but not expected.  I actually look more at the details than the numbers which are only a coarse guide & sometimes I don't think the number matches the written account...  most often because he was hung up on appearance of something.

I have gone on dates & wanted to try something...  sometimes we try & it does NOT work.  Or sometimes we never get around to xyz.  I don't care.

When I leave, I want to feel "that was great."  I want to feel like I left a GF.  I want to feel like I wish we had more time.  I want to feel that I want to see her again.  How she gets me to feel this way...  is not subject to a menu.
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Ana, when I contact a provider, I never bring up anything I'd like to have go in our session. In an email after I give her all the info she requests, I usually say I would like to see her for whatever time for a wonderful GFE session.
I do my homework and know what's on the menu.  If during the session, she offers something off menu, so be it. Doesn't the E stand for experience not a specific act?

When contacting a lady, I only say I want to meet with her, give her dates and times (both time of day and duration of meeting), a description of myself if it's an initial contact, and references or employment info if she requests it.  

The most I have ever done regarding activities were wardrobe requests...and I have only done that with ladies I had seen previously several times...

i came down on the side of: i got what i asked for and i will never ever ever ask for that again no matter how "effective" it was.

When a lady has a lot of reviews and they are consistent, I do go in expecting similar treatment to that reported by other reviewers. On the fairly rare occasion when that does not happen, I report this and the reason for it in my reviews for the benefit of others who may present the same factors.

I consider the reviews to be a lady's resume. The only time I will ever discuss anything remote about a 'service' might be with a regular whom I have seen frequently....

I do not discuss any acts in the email or the phone call, especially before the first meeting.

After we meet once, I may ask if you'll wear something specific.  But I don't even do that before the first meeting.

I thought this was common sense.

regarding a beverage of her choice (assuming she is coming to my hotel).  I keep the seal on the wine, water, or whatever so she doesn't think I may have tampered with the contents.