I entered into an exclusive monthly arrangement that ended up lasting two years. I only agreed after knowing the gentleman for several years. He was (is!) an amazing man. The relationship ended naturally, and I believe we both walked away without regrets.
Beyond the sexual sparks and comfortable companionship that led to the arrangement in the first place, the things I think were essential to our success were: 1. The trust we developed during the years preceding the arrangement 2. Honest communication about expectations going in 3. Ongoing communication as the relationship evolved I can see how this kind of thing could easily become a horror story - but, in my case, it felt a lot more like a fairy tale.
I am curious how many providers offer, or have considered offering "monthly arrangements"? By that, I mean a set $$$$ amount upfront for a month with a general agreement on frequency and duration of dates for that time period. Effectively, the hobbyist gets a discounted rate for becoming a regular, and the provider gets steady income stream for the period with a regular client she is comfortable with... Some might consider it crossing more into the SD/SB world, but started here.
Obviously this requires a high degree of comfort and trust of both parties with each other. I would think more so for the hobbyist putting up the cash, but also for the provider to be comfortable the client won't try to abuse her time, become a stalker, etc., etc..
Up until recently, I have really enjoyed all the variety of new women I have met. I did not often repeat, and when I did, it was usually not for long. Lately I have been thinking I might slow it down a bit and narrow the field down to a smaller number of great providers that I felt like there was some connection with or chemistry. Doesn't happen often, but when it does, it is a much better experience. Not to worry, I am not looking for love, just to try a different approach that I might find more rewarding. Recently had a great time with a new friend whose ad mentioned monthly arrangements possible and am going to press my bet.
Any providers or hobbyists care to share their experiences or thoughts. Pros / Cons. Positive experiences/horror stories? How have they worked? What is the typical discount?
1. If sex is the primary reason one partakes in this, it makes sense than a lot of spending and trying out different people for sexual chemistry. Marriage goes on. Sex goes on. Efficient.
2. You can experiment sexually a lot more as time goes by.
3. That person most likely has to genuinely like you to agree.
4. Priority in scheduling and making that meeting work.
The biggest con is the element of surprise in exploring a new person is gone
Given the right person, I'd be for it. I explore a bit, but still have one lady I keep going back to because of the sexual chemistry that has developed between us. I would think that ladies would be in favor due to the guaranteed income stream. Enough steady customers, they could go UTR from time to time.
It makes perfect business sense for many providers. It takes the guesswork and uncertainty out of the monthly revenue # for those who need to hit certain goals.
On the other side, I think many guys are open to a hybrid situation where they see certain girls they get along with on a regular arrangement. But still get to see others for the variety. So, not quite the full SD/SB situation. But there's a chance to lock in time with someone youd see anyway and often some favorable discount for the gent from the hourly rate. And often guys can't really afford the girls exclusive SD rate so they go for the non exclusive deal.
You really have to like seeing the same provider. And it should be stress free, unlike a civvie relationship. Right now, I'm in the camp, in my geography, of more variety is better.
those very few Gentlemen who seek 'Quality' over 'Quantity' in this world. I don't mean quality in the 'type' of woman, but in the 'type' of experience he seeks. These gentlemen are not interested in fucking every pussy on the block to put it bluntly. You meet, the chemistry is there however natural, and he is interested in pursuing you further than the one or two or even five date scenario.
The difference in the 'rate' or 'cost' you speak of vs a normal booked date, more or less is an agreed upon amount fair to both parties involved depending on the amount of time he is seeking to spend with the said woman. I'm sure there are some women who have a 'set' monthly price for anyone interested in the scenario. Again, rates vary accordingly to each woman and what she's comfortable with. It could also be different for every guy she is seeing if she has more than one arrangement. But I would be careful labelling anything a 'discount', this isn't Wallyworld, especially with any woman here.
It's simply a mutual agreement between two said lovers who want to take things a lil farther than a normal session for however long it lasts
defines it I suppose. I sometimes (ok always) forget where I am most of the time. Be sure to lube those hands well, you'll need it. But I bet your bank is plentiful, so kudos to you. You could always make an 'arrangement' with your hands for each individual night.
Monday-right Tuesday-left Wednesday-uh oh need it 3x today whatever am I gonna do Thursday-back to right (I think, ADJ lost count from Wed) Friday-ahhh the vagina from Japan Saturday-the wife Sunday-left during the game
In our arrangement, I take care if them and buy them nice accessories like gloves and talcum powder, they get me off, and during the intervening interludes, they STFU!
As for quality, nyc provides plenty of opportunity. Unless you think at least one ps every month for the last three years is shoddy. Lol.
Pigeon-holing this into a "quantity vs. quality" box is silly. For example, I have no, zero, zilch, interest in a LTR or SB/SD situation. I like variety. Even my favorites are seen only once every couple of months. But that has no, repeat no, impact on quality. All the women I see are exquisite. Why would anyone want to assume because I don't want a monthly deal the women I see are lacking in any way? Yeah, I guess Rasha, Chloe Carter, Morgan Lane, Viktoria Monroe, Devin Davette, and Samantha Good are just chopped liver. Right. I could go on. Or you could just see who I've reviewed. I love them all, Each in her own way. My way. Sorry you don't get it. And none of these ladies "discount." Do us all a favor and don't respond to this. You have fallen back into your previous, multiply judgmental iterations. Too bad. But, in retrospect, it was inevitable.
I thought it was just 'my opinion' on the matter and I thought all were allowed to post freely with our own opinions.......but ok, I guess not. Or maybe I'm exempt? LOL
And you would know about 'arrangements' because you've personally done them Mr. Admittedly Variety Guy of 10 flavors a week ....are you speaking from 'personal' experience now too? ok, again. At least pick a fight with something of flavor next time if it's gonna be with me, not just anything you turn around in your own mind and then spew on the boards...........I mean really..........got itch?
I bet if you 'reread' the post as it really reads, (or perhaps as someone else writing it), your 'mind' would probably conjure up something differently. Go ahead, give it a whirl..........I bet I win that one. A lil change in tone all the sudden I see, hmmm, interesting. I bet I know why Ooops I forgot, it's the New Year, how silly of me or is it your monthly.
a cocktail or 2 when I'm on dates. You know I hate to disappoint.
You are wrong, just admit it. I know it's a lot to swallow sometimes, but it's good for the soul Nicky. I can kiss it and make it better ok maybe not hahahahha.
Don't punish the 'post' just because you dislike the 'poster'....that is very shallow even for you Nicky.
Both inicky and GaG are the self appointed TER Gods. They can post their opinion but if you post yours and they don't agree with, they are accustomed to call you, a drunk, a dumb ass, stupid and what not.
That said, you are full of shit, as always. Nobody appointed me anything, let alone myself. I write what I think. If you don't like it I could give less than two shits. Especially if you're a semi-literate clown who 99.9% of the time writes so badly that it's impossible to understand what he means. And the rest of the time is simply wrong
to Vegas afterall. I do know you're upset. It's ok, I'm sure we'll pass in the wind somewhere in this small getting smaller even smallest world we all live in......how is that even possible? LOL Damn........Canada here I come.
Kiss me goodbye at least? And no, although I can handle your 7", I don't want it. But thanks lol. What was the girth again? Perhaps I'll change my mind lol......ok, or maybe not. And you are how tall? That could sway it if you say 6'3.....no, no, I just can't do it LOL, I'm so so sorry Nicky.
Now be nice in your reply Nicky, remember this is all in good fun now, right?
Goodnight, don't dream about me...I'll check for your 'lovely' reply in the morning hours. Muah.
So glad you checked with Mike. And who sez it's only 7 "? And what does "girth" mean? Sorry,but I'm only 6'. Such a midget. But a happy one. And I don't see mid-40s gals. So we're good for cafe but little else. We'll both survive. Muah!
'girth' is....did I misspell it? It's the 'thickness' that counts silly...not the length btw and the 'curve' helps too depending on where her G spot is Length hurts for some of us tiny chicas. We don't need it coming out our throats now the other way....ewwwww lol.
Good for 'cafe'? Ok you lost me lol. You know I don't meet OTC with first time gents...and yes of course, we'll do more than both survive.
Btw, how was your 3some...I am dying to know. I hope it was HOTT with 2 T's........are you leaving a review then?
1) I was joking about not knowing what "girth" meant. 2) I do sport a wonderful "g-spot curve." 3) The MFM was fabuloous. And HOTT. She pronounced herself well satisfied. I won't reveal her name but you know who she is.
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'girth' is....did I misspell it? It's the 'thickness' that counts silly...not the length btw and the 'curve' helps too depending on where her G spot is Length hurts for some of us tiny chicas. We don't need it coming out our throats now the other way....ewwwww lol.
Good for 'cafe'? Ok you lost me lol. You know I don't meet OTC with first time gents...and yes of course, we'll do more than both survive.
Btw, how was your 3some...I am dying to know. I hope it was HOTT with 2 T's........are you leaving a review then?
clue...I don't 'backchannel' like you boys haha, you'd be amazed. But feel free to PM me if you care to. My one experience in that arena, was indeed HOTT as well, no matter how many of you didn't 'understand' that post either hahahahaha. And again it wasn't P4P, not sure how that would've changed the scenario in all honesty. Interesting dynamic now that I think about it.
You can however, save your 'g spot' curve for the lovely under 40 yo ladies LOL. You do know, and I do hate to point it out...you have stated in one post or maybe more that you do see women of all ages, from late teens to mid 40's. I hope I am not responsible for your sudden 'change in tune'. You would be missing out on some stunning ladies here in their 40's...'age' is just a # to 'most' of us, well who do 'get it'. Just don't NOT see them on my account, that would be the pot calling the kettle black. Deal?
Can't imagine why I would not see anyone because of you? You have not yet achieved "kiss of death" status with me and I doubt you could. I agree a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman and some age better than others. Some of the hottest women I've seen say they're mid 30s when they're actually about ten years older than that. I could care less, if they're hot and have game. As for revealing who the object was of my recent MFM, sorry, but I'd rather not, even by PM. It was a fantasy of hers I was glad to help fulfill. If she chooses to bring it to this board (unlikely) that's her call.
of no interest to me the who's and what's that typically go on here lol unlike some lol. In any event, glad you guys had a good time. But if it was a fantasy of 'hers' and she asked you, did she pay you then LOL or was it 'pro bono'? How does that work exactly..........gimme a lil food for thought on this one.
Nicky, my experience up till now has been much like yours. I have thoroughly enjoyed the variety of exquisite women I have met over the last couple of years. Many of whom have put on terrific performances for my first time meeting them, and it is hard to imagine it could get much better after several more dates. But then again, I wouldn't know because I have not tried it.
The good thing is, in this case, it's not an 'exclusive' arrangement. She is free to see who she wants, when she wants, and as long as it does not interfere with my time, I don't care... And I will probably still look to meet a few other providers as well. BTW, thanks for helping me to add a few new names to my bucket list!!!
P4P.... I take your point though, so going forward I will use a more TER politically correct term and call it a 'preferred rate' rather than a 'discount'...
I must say, you do paint quite a pretty picture though. As much as I would love to dive right in to the fantasy world that we "we were like lost lovers' (to borrow another overused TER cliche), I do remain grounded in the reality that this remains a paid 'arrangmenment'. If I took all the Benjamin's off the dresser, there would be nothing... This is a situation where I met a gorgeous provider, we seemed to hit it off, and we are both willing to see each other more regularly for a while and see how things go. Maybe it develops into a really nice friendship with benefits. I would not expect anything more, and if I did, I would probably be in for a world of hurt. This is not an 'exclusive' arrangement. She is free to see who she wants when she wants as long as it doesn't interphere with my time. And I will probably still meet a few new women as well as given I generally agree that variety is the spice of life.
While I don't like 'negotiating' with providers because I think it is in poor taste, it is somewhat inevitable in this circumstance. Luckily, We were able to agree on something both sides thought were fair. Like any other deal, I think it is generally expected that a preferred client would get a preferred rate. Yes, I am sure that it varies considerably in this world based on the woman and her circumstances.
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those very few Gentlemen who seek 'Quality' over 'Quantity' in this world. I don't mean quality in the 'type' of woman, but in the 'type' of experience he seeks. These gentlemen are not interested in fucking every pussy on the block to put it bluntly. You meet, the chemistry is there however natural, and he is interested in pursuing you further than the one or two or even five date scenario.
The difference in the 'rate' or 'cost' you speak of vs a normal booked date, more or less is an agreed upon amount fair to both parties involved depending on the amount of time he is seeking to spend with the said woman. I'm sure there are some women who have a 'set' monthly price for anyone interested in the scenario. Again, rates vary accordingly to each woman and what she's comfortable with. It could also be different for every guy she is seeing if she has more than one arrangement. But I would be careful labelling anything a 'discount', this isn't Wallyworld, especially with any woman here.
It's simply a mutual agreement between two said lovers who want to take things a lil farther than a normal session for however long it lasts.
first off, let me just say how happy I am that you've found someone who filled your need in the 'arrangement' arena. No matter what people say on these boards, you have to do what is in your heart and what works for you as no one can tell you any different. I always told you from day 1...you will know when that time comes.
Now, you and I have communicated about many topics prior to meeting as well as after and since you are one of the few gentlemen who has taken the time to truly get to know 'me' that is why you understood my post. Instead of pulling something out of your ass trying to turn it into something it's not. For anyone to judge anything here, based on the 'poster' and not the 'post' is nonsense to me quite honestly and I really could care less lol.
Those who take the time to actually spend 'time' with me are all I 'care' about.
So, if to give any advice in moving forward with this wonderful lady you have chosen, I would just take it day by day, and try and keep in things in check as best as possible since it is still in the P4P world. But in the end, no matter what arrangement you have ultimately sought out that works for you both...if you wake up daily with a smile on your face, are excited to see her, look forward to that 'time', and most importantly if she makes you feel like a million bucks...it really doesn't get any better, does it?
Good luck to you Spartan in your 'journey' here, as that is what this truly is for a lot of people whether they admit it or not.
And no people, it's not me hahahahaha. But I do know who the lucky lady is...I wish you both the best that this world can offer.
I entered into an exclusive monthly arrangement that ended up lasting two years. I only agreed after knowing the gentleman for several years. He was (is!) an amazing man. The relationship ended naturally, and I believe we both walked away without regrets.
Beyond the sexual sparks and comfortable companionship that led to the arrangement in the first place, the things I think were essential to our success were:
1. The trust we developed during the years preceding the arrangement 2. Honest communication about expectations going in 3. Ongoing communication as the relationship evolved
I can see how this kind of thing could easily become a horror story - but, in my case, it felt a lot more like a fairy tale.
A good friend and I have developed a similar situation. She refers to me as "her knight in shining armor" because I've been there for her when things were tough, asking for nothing in return.
Incredible sex is only one part of the big picture. Trust, respect, openness, support (not just financial) are all elements to making it work. It's still P4P, but there are times she refuses to take anything, and treats me for lunch when we're out together, like a FWB arrangement. She'll clear her afternoon for our time together, since it's much more than a "poke and run" appointment. We both appreciate how special the uniqueness of our arrangement is, and never take it for granted considering the nature of the business. And that comes from spending time together building those connections, not the 60 minute dash
But that's just me, and I'm sure someone will give me heat for not buzzing from flower to flower to collect as many reviews as possible
I have a fav I see 1 or 2 a month. I have been seeing her for over a year may be 2. Sometimes we just can not connect. she is busy, I am busy. Based on this fact, a monthly commitment would end badly because of busy schedules and YOU the hobbyist would be unhappy because you did not get what you paid for. But don't try to negotiate a discount until after you have seen her for a year. But even if you cut $50 off her rate, is $ to $$ going to break your bank. Having a reliable provider is worth way more that what you could save. So rather than stirring the pot, Be happy! She will respect you more if you don't negotiate, AND I might ad there are a whole lot more free benefits to be had with a LTR.
I really did not negotiate the rate, just making sure we had flexibility on time, both in length of the date within an acceptable range) provided the average was X as some weeks we might have a little more time to meet, other weeks less. On that note, and to your point, to the extent we are both busy one week and cannot meet, we can double up the next week. She actually explained that to me. I can imagine in these situations, as Mimi said, it is important to be clear upfront what the expectations are...
Again, I appreciate the advice and we'll see how it goes this month...
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