Many women, both providers and non-providers, fake O's, for a variety of reasons.  My question is: How can you tell if it is real?  Some providers are especially good at faking, and pride themselves on this ability.

She suddenly gets wetter:  Proof I would say that she is aroused, but not of an O.  Also, I think some guys are confusing natural juices with lube.

She becomes vocal:  Gimme a break.

Her toes curl:  Easily faked.

Her thighs quiver "involuntarily", she starts rocking, etc:
You can make your thighs quiver "involuntarily" too, any time you want - try it now, while you are reading this.  Easy to do, right?  Probably her best faked O's are done by closely imitating what happened when she had a real O.

The only one I think is real:  A fully engorged, swollen clit.  When that button pops, I know she is genuinely aroused, because it can't be faked.  And there is nothing I enjoy seeing more then a swollen clit.  Of course, being aroused and getting all the way to an O are two different things.  So still no way to tell if her O is real.

Anybody have a way to tell?

If she pays you.

-Hoot.

The anal sphincter will go into rhythmic contractions when she cums. It's unmistakeable.
If she lets you, just slide a finger (or something else) in and feel for the contractions (I've found that the finger providers a nice sensation that seems to enhance the orgasm). If she won't let you in. just lay your finger tip at the entrance of her anus, you'll still feel the contractions.
In my experience this is pretty universal.
On the otgher hand...why does it matter? Just enjoy the fantasy!!!

I guess every woman is different, but I'm convinced when along with the usual (and easily faked) signs, her face contorts and turns red while the vagina pulsates.

probably it's real.  Face contorting could be easily faked, and even pulsating vagina could be faked, unless the pulsations were very rapid, almost more like fluttering then pulsating.

However, coming back to the red face, is this really a sign of an O, or just of arousal (like the swollen clit)?

How about the fact that it doesn't happen very often?  As much as I hate to admit it, I don't make 'em come every time (or even most of the time).  If she always did it, even a gullible sap like me would get suspicious.

Yeah, the red face was the clincher for me.  I don't think it's just arousal.

Well, even if it's all fake, it's been a damned good show!

just flowing with them and letting them happen - Damn!, but they can be great!  

However, sometimes it's interesting to inject just a bit of reality into all the fantasy.  Always good to "keep it real" once in a while.

If a woman knows her body, she can get herself off sitting in her car alone, stuck in traffic, without even touching herself. So why would a woman fake..??? Only one reason that I know of...trying to hurry things along...Flushing is a good sign of an O, along with shallow breathing. Muscles tense for approx.7 seconds before the release....

First of all you need to realize that women orgasm differently..hell even the same women will orgasm diferently within her cycle. some women have large swollen clits and some don't...some of us flush red and some of us don't...there are far too many factors in the female orgasm(s) for you to possibly comprehend it and determine real from fake every time. Quite frankly the men who questions me or pressures me to cum and asks repeatedly if i did bug the hell out of me...if you provide a relaxing and fun enviroment for a lady and are open to suggestions you are in a better position to not only make a lady cum but to enjoy the experience more yourself. It isn't a game plan written in a book...

You gotta remember that there are different kinds of orgasms...

1) Clitoral orgasm... VERY rare during intercourse for females as it requires direct clit stimulation which is not that easy during intercourse. (I've done it... maybe three times in my life.)  Now I'm trying to think of my own symptoms for this one... hmmm... well I guess I get quiet right before... 'cuz I'm freakin' CONCENTRATING... on my CLIT, of course!  And I squeak, squeal, convulse a little bit and then go all limp and stuff. Often I giggle right after

2) Vaginal orgasm... for me lots more frequent... woo hoo!!!! Now for me at least this can go on and on building in intensity but it's like a wave or convulsion or contraction???? In my coochie??? Very intense and very good, and it peaks, fades off, climbs higher, peaks, etc... continuous... methinks red face and all the rest, symptoms. My pussy is convulsing during this and I know guys can feel it!

3) G-spot orgasm which is unmistakeable because if you are slamming someone's g-spot she will be a screaming raving lunatic.  Holy MOLY.  (I have only squirted a few times, but I've had many g-spot O's).

OK, sooooo.... now there are different TYPES, the reactions are DIFFERENT. (BTW the G-spot description is NOT to rule out screaming raving lunatic-ness during other things, but just that that is a pretty easy guarantee!)

*smooooooooooooooooooooch*
Nicole

I guess you either believe her or not.

I can have different O's, (oral, by greek, fingers, etc.)
Some of them you can tell, I start pouring out, even more wetter than normal. Others, I don't get real wet, but with you will feel me contracting..

Shaye

Too much has been written by female and male scientists about human sexual response to convince many people that it is incomprehensible.  

Neither I nor any man with any consideration or sensitivity would ask a woman, provider or not, if she had an O.  Certainly would never pressure her to have one.  Good sex never follows a game plan, it takes its own course in ways that are creative, free-flowing, and most of all fun!

A suggestion...read a bit of tantra...don't be so damn "goal" oriented...be present and go with the flow and really experience the moment...then...you will see her relax and open up and become genuinely aroused. But, in any event, recommend you simply go with the energy that develops between the two of you...your entire experience will very likely be more mind blowing...for everyone at the event! Just a friendly opinion from a Boston BFE!

to you that in your tantric perspective, you not lose touch with reality - there is value in that too.

Easily faked. My best guess is the reaction afterward. The clit is usually super sensitive right after O. Try to keep touching it. She'll push your head out, sometimes violently, and lock those legs together. In my experience, being simply aroused doesn't bring this effect. If you go right into FS after DATY, chances are no O. This happened to me recently. Escort admitted faking during DATY so we could proceed to FS where she really had an O. After O, she had to rest a good 10 minutes before resuming sex. Then DATY again, and a real O. Pushed my head out and locked those legs together. My wife has the very same reaction.

I don't really care if she wants to fake it.  I care more when she doesn't want to fake it and she thinks she has to fake it - to allow me to get off.

If she's not in the mood to get off and wants to shout "OH BABY YOU'RE THE BEST FUCK IN THE WORLD!" all the better I say!  She can act her ass off!

I have found that most women just don't need to get off every time (like us guys) just like I have found that some women enjoy getting off multiple times and if once is good - three times is better.

Instead of investing in learning to tell if they're acting, spend time learning to teach them it's ok to talk, moan and yell during sex - anything to get them to be honest with what they want.  A lot of women simply enjoy having us inside them and don't focus on the "Big O" as much as we do.

Fitguy

i didn't even know we were supposed to try.

Was I alright -

did a shadow of emotion cross your face or was it just another trick of the light?

With apologies to the Who!

BTW-  I do the hobby for me-  I KNOW that I make my SO happy several times a session.  This play time is for ME!

way.  The semi-lectures from a few of the others were becoming a bit much.  LOL!  Stay cool.

"she doesn't want to fake it and she thinks she has to fake it".
I think it's too bad that many providers feel pressure to have an O during a session, and so will fake one if a real one isn't happening.  Can't we just let them be people, and realize that it isn't always going to happen?  But I do think it is interesting to know when it is real and when not - hence my original question.

Now, getting them to be honest about what they want - that's an interesting subject.  Some don't particularly want to be aroused at all, and I would say those are the ones who should limit their appointments or perhaps get out of the business altogether.

Dude-

Sex w/ the SO is all about her pleasure- I will even forgo mine to get her off.

the Hobby?   Means not havnig to care if my partner has an orgasm!  I usally get massages so its not often an issue, but I wouldn't worry about it.

If you worry about not pleasing providers- you are messed up.  You pay them to leave AND not to whine about their needs...

Ladies- this is not a dis so don't flame me, but this time is mine, I'm paying for it.

You can tell if she has a big-O if you sense that the provider
gets soaking wet with a squirter.  Things all of the sudden become
very slipperly. It is like a wave from an ocean.  To achieve this
try some daty first before going to the main event.  Try the mish
position first very slowly and gradually work you up to a faster
rythm and then slow down.

The other way is to let the provider ride you cow girl style.

Then last but least is to have her lay on her stomach doggie style
position. Try it slow and work your way up. You can tell with the
noise and sexy talk.  You will hear them ah, oh, ah, oh GOD it feels
so good with deep conviction. Sometimes the it is so intense they
will shake like crazy (seen a few do this).  Some will scream out
because it is so intense. Of course you want to talk to the provider
and tell her how good she smells, how fine her hair feels. You want
to get their mind into it.

In all try cases they will be a real squirter. That is the bottom
line.

WHEN A GIRL'S WITH ME, THERE ARE 2 KINDS OF ORGASMS.

FAKED AND NON=EXISTENT.

Suck her tongue to see if it is cold.

I am glad I have shortish hair or else she might have been able to get a better hold of it.

I also take it as a good sign when they jump up and run out of the bed after the third O from Daty.